{"id":1775,"date":"2007-01-17T02:20:23","date_gmt":"2007-01-17T02:20:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2007\/01\/the-art-of-conversation-2.html"},"modified":"2007-01-17T02:20:23","modified_gmt":"2007-01-17T02:20:23","slug":"the-art-of-conversation-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2007\/01\/the-art-of-conversation-2.html","title":{"rendered":"The Art of Conversation 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jesuscreed.org\/?p=1897\">Last week<\/a> I took a look at Bennedetta Craveri&#8217;s book, <em>The Age of Conversation<\/em>, and this week I&#8217;d like to begin reflecting on conversation in a more explicitly and self-consciously Christian context. Here&#8217;s the crucial setting for me: by and large I don&#8217;t think evangelical Christians know how to converse. <!--more|inline--><br \/>\nThe fundamental obstacles to conversation among evangelicals (and the same applies to the stronger progressive groups) are two-fold: most conversations are blocked either by a <em>right vs. wrong obstacle<\/em> or by an <em>information-only<\/em> obstacle. Let&#8217;s look at these two today, and I&#8217;d be glad for you to reflect on your own &#8220;conversations&#8221; with others. What are they about? Are they about who is right, about information, or about exploration of what one another thinks?<br \/>\nLet us say that a person wants to converse about world religions, about the presence of &#8220;silent Christians&#8221; in the Islamic world, about the issues surrounding eschatology in the New Testament, about how to &#8220;do church&#8221; in a postmodern context, about preaching in today&#8217;s world, about homosexuality, about the church and the poor, about the gospel and social justice, about marriage, about rearing children&#8230; any topic that matters and any topic about which a person has concerns and wonders what is the best way to think about. Bring into the mix a person who is young or a person who really has serious and good questions about traditions &#8230; and you create the only kind of conversation that really can a conversation. Something important, a couple of people, and a desire to learn from one another. But, often mutual exploration is not what happens. Why?<br \/>\nThe first obstacle is the <em>right vs. wrong risk<\/em>. Orthodoxy is right; anything else or less than orthodoxy is wrong. With that looming behind every conversation, when a person raises a question there is immediately a worry if what the person is asking is orthodox or not; whether or not by participating in such a conversation a person will be seen as harboring doubts about orthodoxy; and whether associating with such persons calls into question one&#8217;s reputation. Quickly, in many cases, the conversation stops being conversation and becomes instead a quick lesson on what tradition teaches the Bible says and that if one strays from that one is questioning the Bible and, there you have it, it all becomes a reduction to whether or not a person believes in inerrancy.<br \/>\nWhen conversation is shaped like this &#8212; and this is what I want to contend &#8212; there is no conversation. Instead, it becomes didactic. Which leads me to the second issue.<br \/>\nThe second obstacle is that conversations, instead of becoming explorations of one another&#8217;s minds on a given topic as each reflects on how each makes theological decisions, become <em>information-exchange sessions<\/em>. Whoever knows the most becomes the teacher; whoever knows the least becomes the student. That&#8217;s all. It&#8217;s about information exchange. It becomes catechesis instead of conversation.<br \/>\nBut the &#8220;art&#8221; of conversation can&#8217;t be learned in such a context when everything is dominated by right vs. wrong or when it becomes whoever knows the most becomes the teacher. This isn&#8217;t conversation; this is lecture or information exchange.<br \/>\nI believe that the emerging movement wants &#8220;conversation,&#8221; and I believe evangelicals by and large are nervous about it because it has not learned to converse. I do not deny the value of information, nor do I deny the importance of orthodoxy.<br \/>\nBut, I ask, is everything a matter of orthodoxy? The answer is &#8220;No,&#8221; a hundred times &#8220;No.&#8221;<br \/>\nSo, in next week&#8217;s post I want to explore the art of conversation when at least two can gather to converse about a topic and learn to explore one another&#8217;s thoughts with one another.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last week I took a look at Bennedetta Craveri&#8217;s book, The Age of Conversation, and this week I&#8217;d like to begin reflecting on conversation in a more explicitly and self-consciously Christian context. 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