{"id":162,"date":"2005-07-14T19:33:00","date_gmt":"2005-07-14T19:33:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2005\/07\/after-all-what-is-conversion.html"},"modified":"2005-07-14T19:33:00","modified_gmt":"2005-07-14T19:33:00","slug":"after-all-what-is-conversion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2005\/07\/after-all-what-is-conversion.html","title":{"rendered":"After all, what is conversion?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div>\n<p>Trying to define conversion in a meaningful way is not easy, so I will go to two major scholars of conversion theory. In doing this, let me emphasize that the scholarly discussion of conversion avoids specific theological terms, so sometimes this can sound a bit clinical and artificial &#8212; but I want to emphasize that it isn&#8217;t. Conversion is a profound spiritual moment and\/or process that, at the same time, can be analyzed on the basis of &#8220;what we can see.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So, two theorists and then I&#8217;ll offer a rendition of my own.<\/p>\n<p>Lewis Rambo, who has written the definitive study of conversion (<a href=\"http:\/\/dogbert.abebooks.com\/servlet\/SearchResults?bx=off&amp;sts=t&amp;ds=30&amp;bi=0&amp;an=rambo%2C+lewis&amp;tn=understanding+religious+conversion&amp;sortby=2\"><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Understanding Religious Conversion<\/span><\/a>), defines it like this &#8212; and this will shock some of us:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Conversion is what a group or person says it is. The process of conversion is a product of the interactions among the convert&#8217;s aspirations, needs, and orientations, the nature of the group into which she or he is being converted, adn the particular social matrix in which these processes are taking place.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Rambo emphasizes the community nature of conversion &#8212; think about it. We convert to the Christian faith that comes to us and our conversion is shaped by how that the community presents the gospel.<\/p>\n<p>James Fowler, whose book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/tg\/detail\/-\/0060628669\/qid=1121395305\/sr=1-1\/ref=sr_1_1\/002-2674248-1752815?v=glance&amp;s=books\"><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Stages of Faith<\/span><\/a>, is both learned and frustrating for me, defines conversion most clearly in his second book, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/tg\/detail\/-\/078795134X\/qid=1121395305\/sr=1-2\/ref=sr_1_2\/002-2674248-1752815?v=glance&amp;s=books\"><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Becoming Adult, Becoming Christian<\/span><\/a>, as follows:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I mean an ongoing process through which people (or a group) gradually bring the lived story of their lives into congruence with the core story of the Christian faith.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>James Fowler gets to the heart of another important feature: conversion is the re-writing of our own autobiographies. One of my former students, Scott Wagoner (Wagsy), introduced me to the &#8220;BC and AC&#8221; days expression: Before Christ and After Christ.<\/p>\n<p>For my take, which can be found in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/tg\/detail\/-\/0664225144\/qid=1121395466\/sr=1-1\/ref=sr_1_1\/002-2674248-1752815?v=glance&amp;s=books\"><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Turning to Jesus<\/span><\/a>, I see conversion essentially as the <span style=\"font-style: italic\">transformation of our identity from a self-identity to a Christ-identity<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>How about you, how would you define conversion? Try to avoid quoting a Bible verse &#8212; I&#8217;d choose Mark 1:15 or Galatians 2:20 &#8212; for what we are trying to do is put all the Bible together into a succinct intelligent formula.<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear:both;padding-bottom: 0.25em\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Trying to define conversion in a meaningful way is not easy, so I will go to two major scholars of conversion theory. 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