{"id":1216,"date":"2006-08-03T04:20:29","date_gmt":"2006-08-03T04:20:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2006\/08\/heretics-guide-to-eternity-3.html"},"modified":"2006-08-03T04:20:29","modified_gmt":"2006-08-03T04:20:29","slug":"heretics-guide-to-eternity-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2006\/08\/heretics-guide-to-eternity-3.html","title":{"rendered":"Heretic&#8217;s Guide to Eternity 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The third section of Spencer Burke&#8217;s <em>A Heretic&#8217;s Guide to Eternity<\/em> is called &#8220;Living in Grace: Mystical Responsibility.&#8221; Again, I&#8217;ll provide here the main lines of his thinking:<!--more|inline--><br \/>\nJesus is the first heretic. Why? &#8220;Sometimes you gotta break the rules.&#8221; In this chp, Spencer goes through a series of Gospel passages and puts together his thesis that Jesus broke all the rules as the original heretic.<br \/>\n1. The invalid at Siloam&#8217;s pool from John: Jesus healed on the sabbath.<br \/>\n2. Writing in the dust: Jesus never condemned the woman and offered her &#8220;good common sense &#8230; and I&#8217;d avoid this kind of thing in the future if I were you.&#8221;<br \/>\n3. Good Samaritan: there is no distinction between Jews and neighbors based on &#8220;genetics and ethnicity.&#8221;<br \/>\n4. Antitheses in Matthew 5: &#8220;Jesus didn&#8217;t rewrite the rule book. He threw it out and exchanged it for a new way of being in the world.&#8221;<br \/>\n5. Love commandment in John 13: &#8220;Love in the face of betrayal.&#8221;<br \/>\nOverall, &#8220;God is a relational presence, connecting with people via love, not regulation.&#8221;<br \/>\nResponse: Spencer says something wrong about each passage, sometimes centrally so. So, here goes:<br \/>\n1. Somehow Spencer believes that Jews at the time of Jesus thought there were more than 600 laws that could be broken on Sabbath; he&#8217;s confused the 40 or so kinds of work with the 600+ commandments and prohibitions in the Old Testament.<br \/>\n2. Jesus never condemned the woman? Meaning what? His final words were &#8220;Go now and leave your life of sin.&#8221; Which means he called her a sinner, said it was wrong, and told her to repent. His suggestive translation above won&#8217;t cut the mustard of the context. I&#8217;m not sure what &#8220;condemned&#8221; means here, but if he means &#8220;finally judged&#8221; that&#8217;s fine.<br \/>\n3. Somehow he gets the Good Samaritan into a parable about treating the ethnically diverse as equals; nonsense. The fact is we don&#8217;t know if the one robbed was a Samaritan or a Gentile; he was probably a Jew, and it could have been a woman. The point is not to be kind to the Gentiles but to act like the Samaritan and be kind to everyone.<br \/>\n4. In treating the antitheses he has skipped Matt 5:17-20 where Jesus says explicitly that he &#8220;didn&#8217;t throw out the rule book.&#8221; He kept it and showed its true meaning.<br \/>\n5. There is nothing in the love commandment about meeting betrayal with love. In fact, the &#8220;one another&#8221; in &#8220;love one another&#8221; is <em>sectarian<\/em> love: love for the community.<br \/>\nSpencer begins this chp telling us that the reason he thinks Jesus was the original heretic was because &#8220;I <em>do<\/em> read the Bible.&#8221; Not very carefully is what I&#8217;d say. I&#8217;m sorry to say this so directly, but I&#8217;m saying what I see. There is too much sloppiness with the Bible.<br \/>\nChp. 8 is about false views of God and reminds me of JB Phillips&#8217; classic <em>Your God is Too Small<\/em>.<br \/>\nGod is too distant, Christianity as a religion is too much about one-way tickets to eternity and getting saved and rules and regulations. It develops an exclusivist theology and a nostalgia theology. It keeps people from loving the world and is down with culture.<br \/>\nI will save my last post to deal with Spencer&#8217;s form of universalism.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The third section of Spencer Burke&#8217;s A Heretic&#8217;s Guide to Eternity is called &#8220;Living in Grace: Mystical Responsibility.&#8221; Again, I&#8217;ll provide here the main lines of his thinking:<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":298,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1216","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-books"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Heretic&#039;s Guide to Eternity 3 - Jesus Creed<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2006\/08\/heretics-guide-to-eternity-3.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Heretic&#039;s Guide to Eternity 3 - Jesus Creed\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The third section of Spencer Burke&#8217;s A Heretic&#8217;s Guide to Eternity is called &#8220;Living in Grace: Mystical Responsibility.&#8221; 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