{"id":1184,"date":"2006-07-21T04:20:32","date_gmt":"2006-07-21T04:20:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2006\/07\/is-the-reformation-over-5.html"},"modified":"2006-07-21T04:20:32","modified_gmt":"2006-07-21T04:20:32","slug":"is-the-reformation-over-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2006\/07\/is-the-reformation-over-5.html","title":{"rendered":"Is the Reformation over? 5"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Just in case you haven&#8217;t heard of it, in the early 1990s Richard John Neuhaus (editor of <em>First Things<\/em>) and Charles Colson (who needs no intro to most of you) began a fruitful dialogue that has led to four &#8220;Evangelical and Catholics Together&#8221; official dialogues. They addressed four topics: Christian mission, salvation, &#8220;your word is truth,&#8221; and the communion of the saints. Noll and Nystrom&#8217;s book <em>Is the Reformation Over?<\/em> surveys this development.<!--more|inline--><br \/>\nDo you think the areas of agreement are genuinely agreed-upons?<br \/>\nEach has been published.  The first one produced a firestorm of evangelical protest, led by such notables as Michael Horton, John McArthur, and RC Sproul. The protest did not slow the folks down: they went to work on the next topic and so down to our day.<br \/>\nOn justification: they agreed that it was &#8220;entirely God&#8217;s gift, conferred through the Father&#8217;s sheer graciousness, out of the love&#8230; declares us to be no longer his rebellious enemies&#8230;&#8221;.<br \/>\nOn Scripture: Evangelicals admitted to creeds, confessions and corporate interpretation, while Catholics admitted to tradition being under Scripture.<br \/>\nOn communion of saints: God&#8217;s holiness is the basis for communion, communion occurs between believers, sacraments foster communion, and then they dealt with communion with those who have died. [I have to admit that I&#8217;ve never in my life thought that we weren&#8217;t in communion with those who have already died, but not once in my life have I ever asked anyone already dead to pray for me.]<br \/>\nECT stuff is not as forensic as Reformed folk on justification. There is a unity at deep level but not a the articulable level; not their words. There is agreement on cobelligerence but not on ecclesiology.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Just in case you haven&#8217;t heard of it, in the early 1990s Richard John Neuhaus (editor of First Things) and Charles Colson (who needs no intro to most of you) began a fruitful dialogue that has led to four &#8220;Evangelical and Catholics Together&#8221; official dialogues. 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