{"id":1183,"date":"2006-07-20T04:20:37","date_gmt":"2006-07-20T04:20:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2006\/07\/is-the-reformation-over-4.html"},"modified":"2006-07-20T04:20:37","modified_gmt":"2006-07-20T04:20:37","slug":"is-the-reformation-over-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2006\/07\/is-the-reformation-over-4.html","title":{"rendered":"Is the Reformation over? 4"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Where do you find Roman Catholic theology? Now, before we go too far, let me make this point: Evangelicals tend to define themselves and therefore everyone else by their doctrinal statement. (This has given rise, in part, to the emerging church movement&#8217;s nervousness about doctrinal statements.) RCism is not defined by its theology, even if it has a theology. But, if you are looking for it, where do you find that theology? <!--more|inline--><br \/>\nIn the Catholic <em>Catechism<\/em>. Have you ever read any of it? (It&#8217;s online if you want to check it out: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scborromeo.org\/ccc.htm\">right here<\/a>.) It is not a systematic theology, and yet like one; it is not a devotional book, yet it is devotional; it is not an encyclopedia, yet it is like one. The indices will enable you to find just about anything you need to know about the official RC doctrinal views.<br \/>\nNoll and Nystrom&#8217;s <em>Is the Reformation Over?<\/em> suggests that evangelical Christians by and large can agree with 70% of the <em>Catechism<\/em>. The authors chart out with citations common orthodoxy, common devotion, and common understanding of holy living (sabbath and God&#8217;s name, human life, sexual ethics, family\/marriage\/divorce, social justice, sin and the supernatural).<br \/>\nThen they chart the differences: authority, Mary (mother of God), baptism, salvation by works or grace, celibacy and saints, sacraments and worship.<br \/>\nThen they address &#8220;Catholics and the Church&#8221; with the standard quip that the evangelical and Catholic difference on ecclesiology is that latter have one and the former don&#8217;t. (Standard humor; not altogether false for many; emerging folks, however, would say that the &#8220;no ecclesiology&#8221; just might be the real thing after all &#8212; that&#8217;s another conversation, not this one.) Well, the centrality of the Church is a huge difference. Insurmountable in my view. 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