{"id":1118,"date":"2006-06-30T04:10:13","date_gmt":"2006-06-30T04:10:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2006\/06\/brings-life-for-all.html"},"modified":"2006-06-30T04:10:13","modified_gmt":"2006-06-30T04:10:13","slug":"brings-life-for-all","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2006\/06\/brings-life-for-all.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Brings life for all&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There is a translation issue here in Romans 5:18, but the translation issue is not the real issue. A woodenly literal translation is offered by Wright: &#8220;so also through the righteous act of the one unto all people unto acquittal of life.&#8221; Thus, Christ&#8217;s act of righteousness (either his whole life or his quintessential act of dying for others) brings an acquittal of life &#8220;unto all people&#8221; or &#8220;for all.&#8221; Really? For &#8220;all&#8221;? What is the last word and the word after that, as McLaren expresses it?<!--more|inline--><br \/>\n&#8220;All&#8221; is exactly what Paul says. But, in Romans 5:19 he narrows it to &#8220;many&#8221;. Some find a way out of a kind of universalism in this verse but going there doesn&#8217;t help because the &#8220;many&#8221; who will be made righteous in 5:19b counterbalance the &#8220;many&#8221; who were made sinners by Adam&#8217;s sin. If only &#8220;many&#8221; were made sinners, then perhaps all those &#8220;many&#8221; were also made righteous.<br \/>\nSo, the &#8220;many&#8221; and the &#8220;all&#8221; of Romans 5:19 and 5:18 are the same.<br \/>\nSo, what do we say? Let me turn to my friend and former colleague, Doug Moo, who because his son&#8217;s high school basketball invariably beat my son&#8217;s team I like to find something to disagree with him about. On this one it would be hard.<br \/>\n1. Paul uses justification language for the individual sentence not for the overall impact of the atonement.<br \/>\n2. Paul is not talking here about potentials and availability but of realities.<br \/>\n3. Paul is speaking here of two groups: the &#8220;in Adam&#8221; and the &#8220;in Christ&#8221; groups.<br \/>\n4. Paul narrows the &#8220;in Christ&#8221; to those who have the gift and who have life.<br \/>\n5. Paul&#8217;s other passages deserve to be consulted: Romans 8:32; 12:17, 18; 14:2; 16:19.<br \/>\nAnd to Jimmy Dunn, my PhD supervisor, who contends the &#8220;all&#8221; here is a way of saying &#8220;Jews and Gentiles&#8221; and not just Jews. It refers to all those who belong to the &#8220;in Christ&#8221; epoch that has been ushered in through Christ. Though Dunn then suggests he wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if some didn&#8217;t explore that universalistic logic of Paul&#8217;s language.<br \/>\nTom Wright: &#8220;Our minds instantly raise the question of numerically universal salvation, but this is not in Paul&#8217;s mind. His universalism is of the sort that holds to Christ as the way for all&#8221; (529).<br \/>\nWhat is decisive for you? Do you think Paul is consistent, and if so do you think these two verses have to be balanced in a kind of &#8220;potential for all&#8221; way? Or, do you think Paul is probing here for an idea that he only partly grasps and that the logic of grace in this passage leads to universalism?<br \/>\nI&#8217;m hoping Mike Bird and Ron Fay and Dave Tombis can weigh in.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There is a translation issue here in Romans 5:18, but the translation issue is not the real issue. 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