{"id":8,"date":"2010-03-14T03:00:00","date_gmt":"2010-03-14T03:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jazztheologian\/2010\/03\/interview-with-brian-mclaren-p6.html"},"modified":"2010-03-14T03:00:00","modified_gmt":"2010-03-14T03:00:00","slug":"interview-with-brian-mclaren-p6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jazztheologian\/2010\/03\/interview-with-brian-mclaren-p6.html","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Brian McLaren (p6)&#8211;the X Question"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--StartFragment--><br \/>\n<span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jazztheologian\/assets_c\/2010\/03\/brianspeaking-12024.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/109\/import\/assets_c\/2010\/03\/brianspeaking-thumb-175x262-12024.jpg\" width=\"175\" height=\"262\" alt=\"brianspeaking.JPG\" class=\"mt-image-left\" style=\"float: left;margin: 0 20px 20px 0\" \/><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>Jazz Theologian<\/b><i>: &nbsp;Malcolm X&#8217;s main critique of Christianity in America had to do<br \/>\nwith how race seemed to determine our habits more than Jesus.&nbsp; Which of<br \/>\nyour questions in <span>A New Kind of<br \/>\nChristianity<\/span> can lead us closer to the unity that Christ prayed for in<br \/>\nJn. 17 and why?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>McLaren<\/b>:<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The<br \/>\nfirst of the ten questions probably is key here [the narrative question]. I<br \/>\nsuggest that what many of us take to be the biblical narrative is actually the<br \/>\nGreco-Roman narrative, and that narrative is inherently dualistic. It creates<br \/>\nus vs. them, civilized vs. barbarians, insiders vs. outsiders, and that dualism<br \/>\neasily gets translated into racism and related -isms, white versus black,<br \/>\nsettlers versus native peoples, Americans versus immigrants, whatever.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">I&#8217;d also say that the third question is really key, the God<br \/>\nquestion: Is God violent? If we believe that God plays favorites &#8211; loves some,<br \/>\nhates others &#8211; chooses some, rejects others &#8211; makes some rich, lets others be<br \/>\npoor &#8211; then it becomes very easy to see our race (or nation, or denomination)<br \/>\nas blessed and everyone else as cursed. That connects us quickly with the<br \/>\nfourth question, the Jesus question, because if we believe that God is like<br \/>\nJesus, and we see Jesus constantly crossing boundaries to show love to the<br \/>\nother, then we see God as being the God who breaks boundaries too, rather than<br \/>\nthe one who creates boundaries.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Then I think about the sixth question, the church question<br \/>\n&#8230; because we need to ask how we manifest and embody our view of the biblical<br \/>\nnarrative, our view of God, our view of Jesus, in our local churches. All of<br \/>\nour theology needs to be translated into real life in local faith communities<br \/>\n&#8230; that&#8217;s where it makes a difference, especially in our cities, where it is<br \/>\nneeded so much!<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b><i>Join the Groove&#8230;are we as Christians moving closer or further away when it comes to unity in the Body of Christ?<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jazz Theologian: &nbsp;Malcolm X&#8217;s main critique of Christianity in America had to do with how race seemed to determine our habits more than Jesus.&nbsp; Which of your questions in A New Kind of Christianity can lead us closer to the unity that Christ prayed for in Jn. 17 and why?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":79,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-interviews"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Interview with Brian McLaren (p6)-the X Question - The Jazz Theologian<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jazztheologian\/2010\/03\/interview-with-brian-mclaren-p6.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Interview with Brian McLaren (p6)-the X Question - The Jazz Theologian\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Jazz Theologian: &nbsp;Malcolm X&#8217;s main critique of Christianity in America had to do with how race seemed to determine our habits more than Jesus.&nbsp; 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