{"id":7,"date":"2010-03-13T02:00:00","date_gmt":"2010-03-13T02:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jazztheologian\/2010\/03\/interview-with-brian-mclaren-p5.html"},"modified":"2010-03-13T02:00:00","modified_gmt":"2010-03-13T02:00:00","slug":"interview-with-brian-mclaren-p5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jazztheologian\/2010\/03\/interview-with-brian-mclaren-p5.html","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Brian McLaren (p5)&#8211;The King Question"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Today we continue my conversation with Brian McLaren with the King Question. &nbsp;After all, King had a dream of a new kind of Christianity as well&#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>Jazz Theologian<\/b><i>: &nbsp;Not long after telling our nation about his dream, Martin<br \/>\nLuther King Jr. said that his dream had turned into a &#8220;nightmare.&#8221;&nbsp; One of<br \/>\nthe reasons for this can be found in his, &#8220;Letter from Birmingham City Jail,&#8221;<br \/>\nin which he expressed his love for the church while at the same time he pled<br \/>\nwith pastors to reject the &#8220;fear of being non-conformists.&#8221;&nbsp; Do you ever<br \/>\nfeel like that?&nbsp; What do you do?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>McLaren<\/b>:<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The<br \/>\npressure to conform really is great, and the punishment for stepping out of<br \/>\nline can be harsh. For a lot of years, I did what a lot of people do: tried to<br \/>\nconform and stay out of trouble! But eventually, I just couldn&#8217;t do so any<br \/>\nlonger. In part, the Bible drove me out of conformity, because the Bible didn&#8217;t<br \/>\nfit in the narrow framework I was given. In part, people drove me out &#8211; when I<br \/>\nmet people who were experiencing injustice, and when I took seriously my call<br \/>\nto love them as I love myself, their burdens and concerns became my own and I<br \/>\nhad to take some risks.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Knowing how much to risk when is a real matter for spiritual<br \/>\ndiscernment. Some of us are liable to be too timid, and others of us to be too<br \/>\nrash, so I think there aren&#8217;t one-size-fits-all answers to this, except to say<br \/>\nthat we need to be prayerful and open to the Spirit&#8217;s guidance, and we need to<br \/>\nhave a circle of soul-friends with whom we can process our lives and our work.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b><i>Join the Groove&#8230;what do you do with your dreams that have gone bad?<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today we continue my conversation with Brian McLaren with the King Question. &nbsp;After all, King had a dream of a new kind of Christianity as well&#8230; Jazz Theologian: &nbsp;Not long after telling our nation about his dream, Martin Luther King Jr. said that his dream had turned into a &#8220;nightmare.&#8221;&nbsp; One of the reasons for&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":79,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-interviews"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Interview with Brian McLaren (p5)-The King Question - The Jazz Theologian<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jazztheologian\/2010\/03\/interview-with-brian-mclaren-p5.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Interview with Brian McLaren (p5)-The King Question - The Jazz Theologian\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Today we continue my conversation with Brian McLaren with the King Question. &nbsp;After all, King had a dream of a new kind of Christianity as well&#8230; 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