{"id":4,"date":"2010-03-10T02:00:00","date_gmt":"2010-03-10T02:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jazztheologian\/2010\/03\/interview-with-brian-mclaren-p2.html"},"modified":"2010-03-10T02:00:00","modified_gmt":"2010-03-10T02:00:00","slug":"interview-with-brian-mclaren-p2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jazztheologian\/2010\/03\/interview-with-brian-mclaren-p2.html","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Brian McLaren (p2)–Horse Buggies"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Jazz Theologian<\/b>:  
\nIn your book, A New Kind of Christian<\/span>: A Tale of Two Friends on a Spiritual Journey<\/span>,
\nyou draw an analogy between modern churches that look like everything is fine
\nwith being like “horse buggies” that were built when the automobile was
\ninvented.  That is, the best buggies were built right when they were
\nbecoming obsolete, is that who your new book is for, Christians who are bought
\ninto a form of Christianity that is fading?<\/span><\/i><\/span><\/div>\n

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\n<\/p>\n

McLaren<\/b>:  <\/span>Nobody
\nhas asked me that question yet, and it forces me to face something that I
\nprobably haven’t really faced so far, namely, that the folks who are thoroughly
\nbought into current forms of Christian faith are unlikely to change. They’ll be
\nlikely to interpret this new book as an attack on what they hold dear, which
\nreally isn’t what I intend at all. I’d say this book is more for Christians who
\nhave tried and tried to buy into the dominant forms of Christianity today …
\ntraditionalism, the religious right, the prosperity gospel, and so on – and who
\nsimply can’t give their hearts to those forms of Christian living. They feel
\nthere’s something more calling them, and they’re on a quest for that something
\nmore. That’s more, I think, who I’m writing for, although I’m glad to have any
\nof the others come along who are willing.<\/p>\n

Join the groove:  Do you think we are seeing a gradual replacement of an old kind of Christianity in favor of a new?<\/i><\/p>\n

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