{"id":1842,"date":"2008-04-07T12:00:06","date_gmt":"2008-04-07T12:00:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/idolchatter\/2008\/04\/burn-or-burn.html"},"modified":"2008-04-07T12:00:06","modified_gmt":"2008-04-07T12:00:06","slug":"burn-or-burn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/idolchatter\/2008\/04\/burn-or-burn.html","title":{"rendered":"Burning Saints and Mountain Goats"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/idolchatter\/burnorburn.gif\"><\/a>We at <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/idolchatter\/2007\/07\/introducing-burn-or-burn.html\">Burn or Burn<\/a> are always working hard to come up with good fire-related puns to attach to our recommendations (or disses) of today&#8217;s faith-minded albums, and we&#8217;d like to thank the Mountain Goats for making this one easy: there&#8217;s fire all over the place on the album; plus, you know, heretics. So let us take up the question of whether their new album, &#8220;Heretic Pride,&#8221; should be tied to a stake and set aflame like a jewel-boxed Joan of Arc.<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"mountaingoat.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/87\/import\/mountaingoat.jpg\" width=\"155\" height=\"155\" style=\"float:right;margin: 5px\"><br \/>\n&#8220;Heretic Pride&#8221; is hailed as a return to fiction by John Darnielle (the founder and only permanent member of the band) to fiction; his previous three albums, especially the critically lauded &#8220;The Sunset Tree,&#8221; about his abusive stepfather, tended toward autobiography. This record is a series of character sketches, many of them about people in dire straits. This is nothing new for Darnielle, who for years wrote songs chronicling a hopeless fictional couple&#8217;s disintegrating, addiction-damaged marriage.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nMountain Goats songs manage to extract hope from the darkest places, though, and &#8220;Heretic Pride&#8221; is optimistic even as it chronicles destruction. The music is more fleshed out than previous Goats records, as strings, organ, and electric guitar add tasteful accompaniment to Darnielle&#8217;s acoustic guitar and plain-spoken vocals.<br \/>\nThe title track is sung by an exuberant, defiant heretic&#8211;&#8220;I feel so proud to be alive,&#8221; he proclaims in his final moments before death by burning, &#8220;transfiguration&#8217;s gonna come for me at last.&#8221; On &#8220;New Zion,&#8221; over just a hint of reggae rhythm, a cult member who&#8217;s lost his fervor for the movement skips out on a revival meeting to go lay down by a river, dreaming  of &#8220;old things made new&#8221; while &#8220;waiting for you.&#8221; We don&#8217;t know who &#8220;you&#8221; is, of course, but we can guess.<br \/>\nDarnielle has a pretty weird voice for a singer\/songwriter\u2014blunt, sharp, edgy\u2014which makes his tenderness all the more endearing. &#8220;San Bernadino&#8221; is the album&#8217;s most blatant celebration of hope. A young couple in a motel prepare for the birth of their son; &#8220;they feel at home in the world,&#8221; Darnielle wrote in an essay for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.emusic.com\/features\/spotlight\/2008_02-mountain-goats.html\" target=\"_blank\">eMusic<\/a>, &#8220;even though the world isn&#8217;t giving them its best yet. I feel hope for them, because they love each other.&#8221; Another track examines &#8220;Tianchi Lake&#8221;(&#8220;Heaven Lake&#8221; in English), on the China\/North Korea border. Surrounded by preachers and temples, the lake&#8217;s apocryphal monster&#8211;mystery and spirit incarnate, perhaps&#8211;quietly backstrokes, unnoticed but alive.<br \/>\nRemember, this isn&#8217;t Unbeliever Pride we&#8217;re talking about; &#8220;Heretic Pride&#8221; can be read as a celebration of (literally) unorthodox belief. Heterodoxy, heresy, is still belief, and some we now call saints have been accused of such belief. The album ends, unsurprisingly, with a house on fire. Somebody make sure to dash in and save a copy of &#8220;Heretic Pride&#8221; before the whole thing goes up in smoke.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We at Burn or Burn are always working hard to come up with good fire-related puns to attach to our recommendations (or disses) of today&#8217;s faith-minded albums, and we&#8217;d like to thank the Mountain Goats for making this one easy: there&#8217;s fire all over the place on the album; plus, you know, heretics. 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