{"id":335,"date":"2006-12-21T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2006-12-21T12:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/godspolitics\/2006\/12\/jim-wallis-i-read-your-comment.html"},"modified":"2006-12-21T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2006-12-21T12:00:00","slug":"jim-wallis-i-read-your-comment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/godspolitics\/2006\/12\/jim-wallis-i-read-your-comment.html","title":{"rendered":"Jim Wallis: I Read Your Comments Too, And Here&#8217;s What I Think"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/blogs\/godspolitics\/2006\/12\/jim-wallis-speaking-to-america.html\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-bottom: 10px;margin-right: 20px\" alt=\"Jim Wallis\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sojo.net\/images\/sojomail\/wallis.jpg\" align=\"left\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>OK. I&#8217;m going to respond to some of the rants in the blog comments. Yes, I  read them, and you know who you are. There are also some very insightful comments  each week on our blog, but those are not the ones I&#8217;m talking about today. As I  said, you know who you are.<\/p>\n<p>Every time I write about Iraq some of you go crazy. Here are your  arguments:<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: bold\">1. Wallis just hates Bush and that&#8217;s what&#8217;s really behind all this anti-war  stuff.<\/p>\n<p>Not true. I actually know Bush, have met with him several times, and found  him quite personable. He even invited me and about 20 other religious leaders down to Austin before he came to  Washington to discuss poverty and his idea for a faith-based initiative. At the time I was attacked by my left-flank  and Democratic friends for meeting with him and, even worse, for being open  to his new faith-based office in the White House (a friend of mine, John  Dilulio, was the first director of the program). The best comment I got from the  left was, &#8220;This thing might really work and we wouldn&#8217;t want to see that.&#8221; Such  wonderful bipartisanship. I told the new President that partnerships between  faith-based organizations and government can be a good thing (I still believe  that) but he needed to adequately fund the program, not politicize the effort  and, most importantly, lead with a well-thought out and well-funded domestic  plan to reduce poverty. &#8220;Surprise the nation,&#8221; I told him, &#8220;Be a Republican who  actually gets something done on poverty.&#8221; But he didn&#8217;t do that. As <a href=\"http:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/blogs\/godspolitics\/2006\/10\/jim-wallis-insider-reveals-faith-based.html\">David Kuo&#8217;s  new book pointed out<\/a> and all of us who worked with the effort had seen\u2014the  Republicans shamelessly politicized the faith-based initiative, grossly under  funded it, slashed and burned many effective programs for low-income families,  and cut taxes on the richest Americans. I was very disappointed and criticized  the failure of the program after a while, but even the White House told me they  were always very appreciative of the fact that I never demonized Bush (I never  hated him like Michael Moore seemed to), but just disagreed with him. Bush and I  actually seemed to get along, and had several personal conversations around the  edges of the meetings I attended. After one, he marched down from the podium,  walked right up to me, grabbed my cheeks, and said, &#8220;Jim, How ya doin, how ya  doin!?&#8221; I tell the story in <span style=\"font-style: italic\">God&#8217;s Politics<\/span> about what I said after he let go of  my cheeks. The press actually began asking me if Bush had a nickname for me yet,  which he gave to people he liked.<\/p>\n<p>But I&#8217;ve been kicked out of the last two White Houses\u2014when, after being  invited in to talk for the first couple of years, I started to criticize some of  the administration&#8217;s policies. They both showed me the door, and there were no  more invitations. With Bush, yes, it was Iraq.<\/p>\n<p>So, I don&#8217;t hate Bush, but I do hate this war. I am very angry about this  horrible, unnecessary, and stupid conflict that an evangelical mega-church  pastor (and a friend of mine), calls &#8220;a senseless slaughter.&#8221; Our kids are being  killed and maimed unnecessarily, Iraqis are dying in untold numbers, and the  region and the world are much less safe because of this war.<\/p>\n<p>And don&#8217;t start in about Saddam. I was against him when Washington treated  him like a pal\u2014guess who was the liason to the Butcher of Baghdad: Donald  Rumsfeld. We helped Saddam in his war with Iran and even helped him target  his use of WMD&#8217;s against Iranians (boy, do they not want that to get out). You  remember the old American foreign policy adage, &#8220;He&#8217;s an S.O.B., but he&#8217;s <span style=\"font-style: italic\">our <\/span>S.OB.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I would have supported the disarming of Saddam of whatever weapons of mass  destruction he had <span style=\"font-style: italic\">and <\/span>removing him from power by exerting both internal and  external pressure in a focused campaign, but not by bombing the children of  Baghdad. Church leaders even put forward a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sojo.net\/index.cfm?action=action.6_point_plan\">&#8220;Six-Point Plan&#8221;<\/a> aimed to accomplish  those two goals that got a lot of traction just before the war started. The  inspections were working! Saddam could have been isolated and perhaps even deposed  in time. Instead, we went to war, found no WMD&#8217;s, showed massive incompetence  combined with amazing arrogance (always a great mix), and threw the nation  into chaos. Good job neocons! Here&#8217;s the facts: half of the country was against  the war before it began and the vast majority of the rest of the world&#8217;s people  were too\u2014including a huge majority of British citizens (who watched in  bewilderment while an otherwise pretty good prime minister ruined his career by  going to war alongside Bush) and a vast majority of church bodies, church  leaders, and church people\u2014including evangelicals world-wide. I want to tell  you that most people in the State Department were against it. They even brought  me in to discuss the Six Point Plan just two weeks before the war, but nobody  down the street was listening to them either.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: bold\">2. Wallis is just against the war (because he hates Bush) but has no plan to get  out.<\/p>\n<p>I have been saying, over and over again, that this war was WRONG\u2014from  the very start. And I will continue to say that, because until we admit the war  was just wrong, we will never find a way out. We are not winning, nor are we  going to win in Iraq. We have already lost. We just made a very bad  situation much worse, and have to just stop doing it some more. When a war is so  wrong and so bad, there are not often any good solutions to be found. Let&#8217;s just  say it\u2014there are no longer and good solutions to the war in Iraq. There is only  responsible withdrawal. Of course, it is a civil war, with factions that are far  less committed to a unified nation than to their own tribe (read Tom Friedman),  and no number of American troops can solve a political disaster with mostly  military means. I did say &#8220;responsible withdrawal&#8221; so don&#8217;t give me any &#8220;cut and run&#8221;  stuff\u2014nobody is saying that. Unless the Iraqis change their behavior and unless  far more international involvement is achieved, everything will just get worse  and worse. I <span style=\"font-style: italic\">have <\/span>suggested concrete things the U.S. should do to make more  international engagement with establishing security and long-term stability in  Iraq more possible:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>1. The U.S. must announce it will retain no permanent  military based in Iraq.<br \/>2. The U.S must give up any proprietary claim on Iraqi  oil.<br \/>3. The U.S. must fund the reconstruction that our great damage makes us  responsible for in Iraq, without control of the contracts and contractors.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The  Baker\/Hamilton report supports much of that, but the Bush Administration  doesn&#8217;t. You want concrete? There it is. And let me just offer a little hint of  something in the works\u2014perhaps another six-point plan to get the U.S. out of  Iraq, offered by the religious community. Stay tuned.<\/p>\n<p>So there you have it. I don&#8217;t hate Bush but really hate this war. I&#8217;m not  just against it, but have offered concrete ways to responsibly end this  disaster\u2014and more is on the way. So, with some of you, here is the real issue:  When you talk about &#8220;victory&#8221; or &#8220;winning&#8221; in Iraq, or that your endless neocon   wars against &#8220;Islamo-facism&#8221; are the best way to make my kids more safe \u2026 I JUST  COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH YOU.<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear:both;padding-bottom:0.25em\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>OK. I&#8217;m going to respond to some of the rants in the blog comments. Yes, I read them, and you know who you are. There are also some very insightful comments each week on our blog, but those are not the ones I&#8217;m talking about today. As I said, you know who you are. 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