{"id":1109,"date":"2011-07-28T05:56:08","date_gmt":"2011-07-28T09:56:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/godonomics\/?p=1109"},"modified":"2011-07-28T15:08:38","modified_gmt":"2011-07-28T19:08:38","slug":"jesus-would-have-alot-to-say-about-the-debt-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/godonomics\/2011\/07\/jesus-would-have-alot-to-say-about-the-debt-debate.html","title":{"rendered":"Jesus Would Have A Lot to Say About the Debt Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Fox News had an article suggesting that Jesus would have strong words to say about the debt debate. Since the article was shot, I&#8217;ll quote<a href=\"http:\/\/http:\/\/politics.blogs.foxnews.com\/2011\/07\/10\/rangel-jesus-would-have-something-say-about-debt-debate\" target=\"_blank\"> it<\/a> before I respond.<\/p>\n<p><em>Congressman Charles Rangel , D-NY, doesn&#8217;t know exactly what Jesus would say about the debt crisis, but he thinks religious leaders should be a part of the conversation.<\/em><em> &#8220;It is a moral question. So I am surprised that we don&#8217;t hear from the rabbis and the priests and the ministers and the imams. This is their business, not just politicians&#8217;,&#8221; he told Fox News on Sunday.<\/em><em> Two days earlier,<a href=\"http:\/\/politics.blogs.foxnews.com\/2011\/07\/08\/religion-rangel-and-debt-ceiling\" target=\"_blank\">\u00a0Congressman Rangel<\/a>\u00a0held a news conference where he asked &#8220;What would Jesus do about the debt problem?&#8221;\u00a0 He called on religious leaders to speak up on the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/topics\/health\/healthy-aging\/medicare.htm#r_src=ramp\">Medicare<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/topics\/politics\/social-security.htm#r_src=ramp\">Social Security<\/a>\u00a0cuts Republicans want to make, which would hit the elderly and the poor the hardest.\u00a0<\/em><em>Rangel insists, &#8220;If the sky, the economic sky, was to fall, the very rich in this country would not feel any pain at all.&#8221;\u00a0 <\/em><em>But when pressed on exactly what that higher power would say about America&#8217;s money problems, he replied &#8220;I don&#8217;t know what Jesus or Moses or anyone would say. But, the issues are so morally clear&#8230;we are our brothers&#8217; keepers.&#8221;<\/em><em> Rangel summed up his argument by saying, &#8220;You know all of this is biblical&#8230; If you read your Bibles and you read the spiritual scriptures you will see that clearly that Jesus would have something to say about this debate.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>So, we are left with Jesus in a bind.\u00a0 Does Jesus and Moses love the rich or love the poor? \u00a0 Jesus was always brilliant at getting out of questions devised to paint him into a corner. \u00a0 Jesus has a lot to say.\u00a0 As a brilliant scholar of the Old Testament, Jesus quoted the Psalms and Deuteronomy more than anything in his ministry. \u00a0 What principles would he give us to think about this debt debate?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jesus tells us to care for the poor.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mark 10:21.\u00a0 Jesus tells the rich man that he lacks one thing&#8230;to give extremely generously to the poor. \u00a0Ezekiel tells us that Sodom and Gomorrah were judged for their inability to help the poor. \u00a0Ez 16:49\u00a0<em>&#8220;Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Jesus would teach individuals to help the poor rather than outsourcing it to someone or something else.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Luke 10:30-37. The account of the Good Samaritan clearly shows the call for individuals to give generously to the poor, the hurting, and the marginalized. It even calls us to give generously to our enemies. Perhaps the Democrats and Republicans might give to each other&#8217;s political coffers. \ud83d\ude42 \u00a0 The Bible calls us as individuals to assess, give, and help those in need. It does not ever promote hiring a government\u00a0mercenary\u00a0to do the giving for you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jesus would warn us that God warned us about Intrusive Government: In 1 Samuel 8, God said we must stay away from a large intrusive government. God clearly told us not to trade liberty for perceived security. He warned us that government takes and takes what was &#8220;ours&#8221; and makes it &#8220;his.&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Godonomics: Why the Bible supports lesser government\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/35BPnbbLUbw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<p><strong>Jesus would teach us to pull out a calculator. Jesus was a small business owner (a carpenter) who spoke of counting the cost.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Luke 14:25-2. &#8220;For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and count the cost, whether he has enough to finish it lest, after he has laid the foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him\u00a0saying, &#8216;This man began to build and was not able to finish.&#8217; Or what king, going to make war against another king, does not sit down first and consider whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty\u00a0thousand?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Here Jesus tells us exactly where we are as a nation. We are seeing others &#8220;mock us&#8221; because we made promises to people we can&#8217;t afford. We overspent. We borrowed from other nations (Deuteronomy tells us not to do that). We inflated the currency (Proverbs tells us not to do that). We over-taxed others. (1 Samuel 8 tells us not to do that).<\/p>\n<p>Now we find ourselves on the brink of supposed despair. The &#8220;Pits of Despair&#8221; just outside the fire swamp of the Princess Bride. \u00a0 Rather than &#8220;counting the cost&#8221; of our tower and our wars as Jesus clearly laid out, we foolishly keep moving forward with the same bad ideas. Even Reheboam had a cabinet meeting with his political advisors and decided to &#8220;raise the taxes&#8230;&#8221; instead of lowering them. \u00a0 The results were tragic for the nation. \u00a0I wrote on this several months <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/godonomics\/2011\/04\/progressive-politicians-long-lost-father-darth-vadar.html\" target=\"_blank\">ago<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jesus would affirm the Rule of Law.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Jesus&#8217;s Bible was the Old Testament. He would quote Leviticus 24:22 which says, <em>&#8220;You are to have the same law for the alien and the native-born. I am the LORD your God.&#8221;\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The same law it says. Laws are applied equally. The same for everyone. There are not &#8220;rich laws&#8221; and &#8220;poor laws.&#8221; There are not &#8220;politician&#8221; laws and &#8220;citizen&#8221; laws. There are not donkey laws and elephant laws. \u00a0No-No! \u00a0Jesus would affirm that ours laws should be equal. This blind justice includes the access the poor have to the rule of law for crimes as well as equality in the tax code for everyone. Our current system rewards those who &#8220;bribe&#8221; the government to coerce others to take money from one group and give to another. Until we return to the rule of law, we will never find peace and freedom. Our tax laws are so uneven and unfair&#8230; to the producers. The rich pay a much higher percent than the middle class. Almost 50% of our nation pays zero for their income tax.\u00a0 ZERO.\u00a0 How&#8217;s that for a equal, just, and fair law?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jesus would affirm the immorality of stealing from our children to pay for our spending today.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Jesus said that leading a child astray is so serious, it would be better to have a millstone tied around our neck and thrown into an ocean on judgment day. \u00a0He might tell us to go to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usdebtclock.org\/\">http:\/\/www.usdebtclock.org\/<\/a>\u00a0and see how we have (James) &#8220;presumed upon tomorrow.&#8221; \u00a0He may turn to Proverbs and show us that the wise have money, not debt. The foolish squander their money today. The really foolish squander tomorrow&#8217;s money. The immoral spend their children&#8217;s and grand-children&#8217;s future payroll.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Prov 21:20 (KJB)\u00a0 <\/strong>&#8220;There is\u00a0treasure to be desired and oil in the dwelling of the wise; but a foolish man\u00a0<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">spendeth<\/span>\u00a0it up.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=zIgBPOGniyQ\">http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=zIgBPOGniyQ<\/a>\n<p>For more information, check out <a href=\"http:\/\/www.godonomics.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.godonomics.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fox News had an article suggesting that Jesus would have strong words to say about the debt debate. Since the article was shot, I&#8217;ll quote it before I respond. 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