{"id":65,"date":"2010-09-17T11:49:30","date_gmt":"2010-09-17T11:49:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/flunkingsainthood\/2010\/09\/female-prophets-in-the-ot-this-week-in-the-twible-2-kings-19-to-24.html"},"modified":"2010-09-17T11:49:30","modified_gmt":"2010-09-17T11:49:30","slug":"female-prophets-in-the-ot-this-week-in-the-twible-2-kings-19-to-24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/flunkingsainthood\/2010\/09\/female-prophets-in-the-ot-this-week-in-the-twible-2-kings-19-to-24.html","title":{"rendered":"Female Prophets in the OT: This Week in the Twible, 2 Kings 19 to 24"},"content":{"rendered":"<\/p>\n<form><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Deborah.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/83\/import\/Deborah.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-left\" style=\"float: left;margin: 0pt 20px 20px 0pt\" height=\"414\" width=\"328\" \/><\/form>\n<p>&#8220;But there were female prophets in Old Testament times,&#8221; I insisted. I was in the middle of an uncomfortable conversation with a fellow Mormon who had just made the claim that all prophets had always been men.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Well, no, not really,&#8221; he countered. &#8220;Women could be advisers, like to a king, but they were not true prophets. That is an ordained priesthood calling, and women don&#8217;t have the priesthood. Sometimes, women in the Bible were pressed into service when there wasn&#8217;t a priesthood holder available. Those were special circumstances.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Women don&#8217;t have the priesthood in <i>our church<\/i> <i>today<\/i>,&#8221; I sputtered. &#8220;You&#8217;re throwing today&#8217;s practice from one religion back on the Old Testament and claiming that things have always been the way they are now. The text itself does not support that view.&#8221;\n<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>So, for the record: Five women in the Hebrew Bible\/Old Testament are explicitly called prophets (though Jewish tradition also recognizes a few others): Miriam, Deborah (see <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/flunkingsainthood\/2010\/06\/the-domestication-of-deborah-what-the-lds-gospel-doctrine-man-ual-did-to-one-powerful-biblical-woman.html\">related post<\/a>), Huldah, Noadiah, and Isaiah&#8217;s unnamed wife. In the New Testament, only Anna gets this designation. Here&#8217;s how to recognize a prophetess:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>1)    They begin their pronouncements with &#8220;Thus saith the Lord.&#8221; That&#8217;s a major clue.<\/p>\n<p>\n2)    The text describes them with the word navi&#8217;a, the female form of the word navi, which means prophet or spokesperson. Literally, it is one who speaks for God.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\n3)    They recognize truth, e.g. Huldah verifying the authenticity of the Deuteronomy scroll discovered in the Jerusalem temple, or Anna verifying the identity of the baby Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>\n4)    They offer God&#8217;s revelation to an entire nation.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>And in direct rebuttal of my interlocutor&#8217;s assertion that women were only pressed into prophetic service when there was no man around to do the job (!), look at Exhibit A this week. King Josiah specifically requested the prophetess Huldah even though other big-name male prophets, like Jeremiah, Habbakuk and Zephaniah, were also on the scene in Judah at the time. Harrumph.<\/p>\n<p>Sat 9\/11<br \/>\n#Twible 2 Kgs 19: Miracle rescue! G saves Judah from Assyrians &amp; Jude can do no wrong. G&#8217;ll always bail us out&#8230; Right? Uh, not so fast.<\/p>\n<p>Sun 9\/12<br \/>\n#Twible 2 Kgs 20: Flashback 15 yrs earlier when G told a sick Hez that Judah&#8217;d be safe for 15 yrs. Which means. . .fasten yr seat belts! <\/p>\n<p>Mon 9\/13<br \/>\n#Twible 2 Kgs 21: Manasseh=Worst. King. Ever. Which is especially bad since he reigned for 55 yrs. Child sacrifice &amp; the whole enchilada.<\/p>\n<p>Tues 9\/14<br \/>\n#Twible 2 Kgs 22: 621 BC. Reformer King Josiah: where&#8217;d I put that Deuteronomy scroll? This temple is so cluttered, I can&#8217;t find. . .Aha! <\/p>\n<p>Wed 9\/15<br \/>\n#Twible 2 Kgs 23: Pious Josiah uses Bk of Deut to remake Judah acc to G&#8217;s wishes. But prophetess Huldah says it&#8217;s too late. Debbie Downer!<\/p>\n<p>Thurs 9\/16<br \/>\n#Twible 2 Kgs 24: 587 BC, a date that shall live in infamy. Babylonians sack Jerusalem &amp; raze temple. Where&#8217;s the comedy in Exile? Kgs ends.<\/p>\n<p>Fri 9\/17<br \/>\n#Twible overview of 1 Chronicles: 1 &amp; 2 Chron a remedial OT overview in case u were sleeping. Pomo retread of same stories from other POVs.<\/p>\n<p>Tune in to <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/flunkingsainthood\/\">Flunking Sainthood <\/a>every Friday for weekly <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/janariess\">Twible<\/a> commentary.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;But there were female prophets in Old Testament times,&#8221; I insisted. 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