{"id":29,"date":"2011-04-30T00:29:05","date_gmt":"2011-04-30T04:29:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/fearofwhales\/?p=29"},"modified":"2011-05-23T03:48:43","modified_gmt":"2011-05-23T07:48:43","slug":"the-emergent-emerging-church-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/fearofwhales\/2011\/04\/the-emergent-emerging-church-1.html","title":{"rendered":"The Emergent Emerging Church"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m just going to come right out and say it. Mark Driscoll can be pedantic at times.<a href=\"http:\/\/ryangaffney.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Mark-Driscoll.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-810 alignleft at-xid-6a014e87f1cb84970d01538dfeac16970b\" src=\"https:\/\/fearofwhales.typepad.com\/.a\/6a014e87f1cb84970d01538dfeac16970b-pi\" alt=\"\" width=\"251\" height=\"365\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nBut not nearly so much as his followers.<\/p>\n<p>This has never been so obvious as with the distinction between &#8220;Emerging&#8221; and &#8220;Emergent.&#8221;\u00a0 Driscoll has drawn a massive cultural distinction about a group that dislikes categorization between a difference of three letters and based apparently upon his say so.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Emerging Church,<\/strong> say Driscoll&#8217;s followers, is the community of people that is asking about how to make the Gospel relevant to the next generation &#8230;\u00a0while attempting to communicate the message of Christ in biblically faithful and culturally meaningful ways.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Emergent Church,<\/strong> on the other hand, is a specific group of well-defined people who are part of the Emergent Village. They are hard to pin down doctrinally. Suffice\u00a0to say, they are probably all a bunch of post-modern heretics. &#8220;So,&#8221; say the proud Driscollites, &#8220;I might be emerg<strong>ing<\/strong> but I am certainly not emerg<strong>ent.<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Well wait a sec&#8230; <em>Who says?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>You know I&#8217;ve got a book here written by Dan Kimball, a part of the Emergent Village, published by Zondervan&#8217;s label &#8220;Emerg<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">ent<\/span> YS&#8221; and called <em>The Emerg<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">ing<\/span> Church<\/em> wherein Kimball identifies himself as emerg<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">ent<\/span> and makes no distinction. So if Kimball says there&#8217;s no difference, and he&#8217;s the expert who (quite lieraily) &#8220;wrote the book&#8221; on the Emerging Church, Where did Driscoll get the idea there is such a clear difference?<\/p>\n<p>Is he just being very picky about the dictionary&#8217;s definition of the words?<\/p>\n<div><strong>e\u00b7merg\u00b7ing<\/strong><br \/>\n\u2013adjective <a href=\"http:\/\/dictionary.reference.com\/browse\/emergent\"><br \/>\n<\/a>See: <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">emergent <\/span><\/div>\n<p><strong>e\u00b7mer\u00b7gent<\/strong><br \/>\n\u2013adjective<br \/>\n1. coming into view or notice; issuing.<\/p>\n<p>Apparently Mr. Webster (7th Collegiate Edition)\u00a0is just as confused as I am.<\/p>\n<p>The truth of the matter is the fact that nobody wants to admit. <strong>There is no difference<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Worse than that, there&#8217;s no way to draw a difference. Right now, the culture of the world is just beginning to undergo some massive and unprecedented changes the likes of which have not been seen since the Enlightenment.<\/p>\n<p>The church is responding to them with some equally important changes the likes of which have not been seen since the Reformation.<\/p>\n<p>In the middle of the fray are a lot of big ideas, some of which are great, some of which are messy.<\/p>\n<p>We don&#8217;t have any good way to sort the heretics from the heroes.<\/p>\n<p><em>Emergent, Emerging, Postmodern, Post-Postmodern, Post-Evangelical, Relevant, Reconstructionist, Radical&#8230;<\/em> They are all words for the same thing.<\/p>\n<p>They describe the group of Christians that\u00a0is trying to get a hold of this <strong><em>THING <\/em><\/strong>in the culture, whatever it is, and glorify God with it.<\/p>\n<p>Why so many words?<\/p>\n<p>Because everytime a new Christian author wants to talk about how the church needs to address the pressing needs of the next generation, they feel the need to clarify that they&#8217;re not one of those other\u00a0[insert your favorite term here]\u00a0heathens over there.<\/p>\n<p>No, no, over here we&#8217;re [insert your <em>other<\/em> favorite term here]<\/p>\n<p>Stop making up words.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s confusing people. The community you are describing is already confused enough by the shifting definitions. Just jump in the\u00a0chaos with the rest of us and prepare to be in a league with radical thinkers.<\/p>\n<p>Or else stay on the sidelines with the traditionalists and prepare to be left behind.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/dictionary.reference.com\/audio.html\/lunaWAV\/E01\/E0138200\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"at-xid-6a014e87f1cb84970d01538dfeab9f970b\" src=\"https:\/\/fearofwhales.typepad.com\/.a\/6a014e87f1cb84970d01538dfeab9f970b-pi\" border=\"0\" alt=\"emergent pronunciation\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m just going to come right out and say it. Mark Driscoll can be pedantic at times. But not nearly so much as his followers. This has never been so obvious as with the distinction between &#8220;Emerging&#8221; and &#8220;Emergent.&#8221;\u00a0 Driscoll has drawn a massive cultural distinction about a group that dislikes categorization between a difference&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":391,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[40,48,10],"tags":[549,74,81,77,76,75,80,79,78],"class_list":["post-29","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-christian-culture","category-emergent","category-inspiration-2","tag-emergent","tag-emerging","tag-mark-driscol","tag-post-evangelical","tag-post-postmodern","tag-postmodern","tag-radical","tag-reconstructionist","tag-relevant"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Emergent Emerging Church - A Fear of Whales<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/fearofwhales\/2011\/04\/the-emergent-emerging-church-1.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"The Emergent Emerging Church - A Fear of Whales\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"I&#8217;m just going to come right out and say it. 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