{"id":572,"date":"2009-06-09T22:38:00","date_gmt":"2009-06-09T22:38:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html"},"modified":"2009-06-09T22:38:00","modified_gmt":"2009-06-09T22:38:00","slug":"a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html","title":{"rendered":"A Baptist preacher encounters a thousand-year-old liturgy: “I loved it loved it loved it”"},"content":{"rendered":"

Here’s something altogether different: reflections<\/a> of a Baptist preacher, who visited an Orthodox church with his family while on sabbatical, and was absolutely stunned: <\/p>\n

<\/a>Saint Anthony the Great isn’t just old school. It’s “styli and wax tablets” old school. We arrived ten minutes early for worship and the room was already filled with people lighting candles and praying. There was one greeter. I said, \u201cWe don\u2019t know what to do.\u201d She handed me a liturgy book and waved us inside.<\/p>\n

Pews? We don\u2019t need no stinking pews! Providing seats for worshipers is SO 14th century. Gorgeous Byzantine art, commissioned from a famous artist in Bulgaria. Fully robed priests with censors (those swinging incense thingies). Long, complex readings and chants that went on and on and on. And every one of them packed full of complex, theological ideas. It was like they were ripping raw chunks of theology out of ancient creeds and throwing them by the handfuls into the congregation. And just to make sure it wasn’t too easy for us, everything was read in a monotone voice and at the speed of an auctioneer.<\/p>\n

I heard words and phrases I had not heard since seminary. Theotokos, begotten not made, Cherubim and Seraphim borne on their pinions, supplications and oblations. It was an ADD kids nightmare. Robes, scary art, smoking incense, secret doors in the Iconostas popping open and little robed boys coming out with golden candlesticks, chants and singing from a small choir that rolled across the curved ceiling and emerged from the other side of the room where no one was singing. The acoustics were wild. No matter who was speaking, the sound came out of everywhere. There was so much going on I couldn’t keep up with all the things I couldn’t pay attention to.<\/p>\n

Lillian was the first to go down. After half an hour of standing, she was done. Jeanene took her over to a pew on the side wall. She slumped against Jeanene\u2019s shoulder and stared at me with this stunned, rather betrayed look on her face.<\/p>\n

\u201cHow could you have brought us to this insane place?\u201d<\/p>\n

Shelby tried to tough it out. We were following along in the 40 page liturgy book that was only an abbreviation of the service were were experiencing. I got lost no less than 10 times. After 50 minutes Shelby leaned over and asked how much longer the service would be. I was trying to keep from locking my knees because my thighs had gotten numb. I showed her the book. We were on page 15. I flipped through the remaining 25 pages to show her how much more there was. Her mouth fell open.<\/p>\n

\u201cAre you serious?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cYeah. And I think there’s supposed to be a sermon in here somewhere.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cThey haven\u2019t done the SERMON yet? What was that guy doing who said all that stuff about\u2026all that stuff?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cI don\u2019t know?\u201d I said.<\/p>\n

\u201cI have to go to the bathroom,\u201d she said. I looked around and saw the door at the back of the sanctuary swinging shut.<\/p>\n

And then there was one.<\/p>\n

I made it through the entire 1 hour and 50 minutes of worship without sitting down, but my back was sore. Shelby came back toward the end. When it came time for communion I suggested that we not participate because I didn’t know what kind of rules they have for that. We stayed politely at the back. A woman noticed and brought some of the bread to us, bowing respectfully as she offered it. Her gesture of kindness to newcomers who were clearly struggling to understand everything was touching to me.<\/p>\n

Okay, so I started crying a little. So what? You would have too, I bet.<\/p>\n

After it was over another woman came to speak with us. She said, \u201cI noticed the girls were really struggling with having to stand.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cYeah,\u201d I said. \u201cThis worship is not for lightweights.\u201d<\/p>\n

She laughed and said, “yes,” not the least bit ashamed or apologetic.<\/p>\n

So what did I think about my experience at Saint Anthony the Great Orthodox Church?<\/p>\n

I LOVED IT. Loved it loved it loved it loved it loved it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Read the rest<\/a>. Fascianting stuff. Really.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Here’s something altogether different: reflections of a Baptist preacher, who visited an Orthodox church with his family while on sabbatical, and was absolutely stunned: Saint Anthony the Great isn’t just old school. It’s “styli and wax tablets” old school. We arrived ten minutes early for worship and the room was already filled with people lighting…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":365,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-572","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-links-r-us","category-liturgy"],"yoast_head":"\nA Baptist preacher encounters a thousand-year-old liturgy: "I loved it loved it loved it" - The Deacon's Bench<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"A Baptist preacher encounters a thousand-year-old liturgy: "I loved it loved it loved it" - The Deacon's Bench\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Here’s something altogether different: reflections of a Baptist preacher, who visited an Orthodox church with his family while on sabbatical, and was absolutely stunned: Saint Anthony the Great isn’t just old school. It’s “styli and wax tablets” old school. We arrived ten minutes early for worship and the room was already filled with people lighting…\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"The Deacon's Bench\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2009-06-09T22:38:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_0DySLTT4PWo\/Si8dtOIoNwI\/AAAAAAAAFuI\/O3kZ46aAiPU\/s320\/5.img_assist_custom.jpg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"deacon greg kandra\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"A Baptist preacher encounters a thousand-year-old liturgy: \"I loved it loved it loved it\" - The Deacon's Bench","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"A Baptist preacher encounters a thousand-year-old liturgy: \"I loved it loved it loved it\" - The Deacon's Bench","og_description":"Here’s something altogether different: reflections of a Baptist preacher, who visited an Orthodox church with his family while on sabbatical, and was absolutely stunned: Saint Anthony the Great isn’t just old school. It’s “styli and wax tablets” old school. We arrived ten minutes early for worship and the room was already filled with people lighting…","og_url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html","og_site_name":"The Deacon's Bench","article_published_time":"2009-06-09T22:38:00+00:00","og_image":[{"url":"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_0DySLTT4PWo\/Si8dtOIoNwI\/AAAAAAAAFuI\/O3kZ46aAiPU\/s320\/5.img_assist_custom.jpg"}],"author":"deacon greg kandra","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html","name":"A Baptist preacher encounters a thousand-year-old liturgy: \"I loved it loved it loved it\" - The Deacon's Bench","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/#website"},"primaryImageOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html#primaryimage"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_0DySLTT4PWo\/Si8dtOIoNwI\/AAAAAAAAFuI\/O3kZ46aAiPU\/s320\/5.img_assist_custom.jpg","datePublished":"2009-06-09T22:38:00+00:00","dateModified":"2009-06-09T22:38:00+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/#\/schema\/person\/052b8cd86cc713feaccdc8282b03cf10"},"breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html"]}]},{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html#primaryimage","url":"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_0DySLTT4PWo\/Si8dtOIoNwI\/AAAAAAAAFuI\/O3kZ46aAiPU\/s320\/5.img_assist_custom.jpg","contentUrl":"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_0DySLTT4PWo\/Si8dtOIoNwI\/AAAAAAAAFuI\/O3kZ46aAiPU\/s320\/5.img_assist_custom.jpg"},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2009\/06\/a-baptist-preacher-encounters-a-thousand-year-old-liturgy-i-loved-it-loved-it-loved-it.html#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"A Baptist preacher encounters a thousand-year-old liturgy: “I loved it loved it loved it”"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/","name":"The Deacon's Bench","description":"Where a Roman Catholic Deacon Ponders the World","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/#\/schema\/person\/052b8cd86cc713feaccdc8282b03cf10","name":"deacon greg kandra","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/wp-content\/wphb-cache\/gravatar\/a4e\/a4e07ce6fde3f10d4d9753243fd48d45x96.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/wp-content\/wphb-cache\/gravatar\/a4e\/a4e07ce6fde3f10d4d9753243fd48d45x96.jpg","caption":"deacon greg kandra"},"url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/author\/deacon-greg-kandra"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/572","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/365"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=572"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/572\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=572"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=572"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=572"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}