{"id":2532,"date":"2008-07-05T23:52:00","date_gmt":"2008-07-05T23:52:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/deaconsbench\/2008\/07\/report-anglicans-hold-secret-talks-with-vatican.html"},"modified":"2008-07-05T23:52:00","modified_gmt":"2008-07-05T23:52:00","slug":"report-anglicans-hold-secret-talks-with-vatican","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2008\/07\/report-anglicans-hold-secret-talks-with-vatican.html","title":{"rendered":"Report: Anglicans hold secret talks with Vatican"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/uknews\/2254269\/Anglican-bishops-in-secret-Vatican-summit.html\">an astonishing bit of news<\/a>, and could signal the beginning of the end of the Church of England as we know it: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p> Senior Church of England bishops have held secret talks with Vatican officials to discuss the crisis in the Anglican communion over gays and women bishops.<\/p>\n<p>They met senior advisers of the Pope in an attempt to build closer ties with the Roman Catholic Church, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_0DySLTT4PWo\/SHBCoERGpbI\/AAAAAAAACl0\/zz-InSnXVr8\/s1600-h\/edchurch07.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:left;margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_0DySLTT4PWo\/SHBCoERGpbI\/AAAAAAAACl0\/zz-InSnXVr8\/s320\/edchurch07.jpg\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, was not told of the talks and the disclosure will be a fresh blow to his efforts to prevent a major split in the Church of England.<\/p>\n<p>In highly confidential discussions, a group of conservative bishops expressed their dismay at the liberal direction of the Church of England and their fear for its future.<\/p>\n<p>They met members of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the most powerful of the Vatican&#8217;s departments, the successor to the medieval Inquisition, which enforces doctrine and was headed by Pope Benedict XVI before his election.<\/p>\n<p>The names of the bishops are known to The Sunday Telegraph, but they have asked for anonymity because the talks are of such a sensitive and potentially explosive nature.<\/p>\n<p>The disclosure comes on the eve of a critical vote as members of the General Synod \u2013 the Church&#8217;s parliament \u2013 prepare to decide whether to allow women to be bishops without giving concessions to staunch opponents.<\/p>\n<p>Up to 600 clergy gave warning in a letter to Dr Williams that they may leave the Church unless they receive a legal right to havens within the Church free of women bishops.<\/p>\n<p>In separate developments, three diocesan bishops wrote to the archbishop supporting the threat and two other bishops have said they are preparing to leave the Church. The letter from the Bishops of Chichester, Blackburn and Europe \u2013 seen by The Sunday Telegraph \u2013 argues that traditionalist clergy will not be able to &#8220;maintain an honoured place&#8221; in the Church without sufficient legislation.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Clearly the ordination of women as bishops would divide the Church of England even more fundamentally than the ordination of women as priests,&#8221; it says.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This issue is one which touches all members of the Church of England and not just those with synodical voting rights. In the light of this we are convinced that some form of separate identities will be required to enable the holders of mutually incompatible convictions about the faith and order of the Church to remain in as high a degree of continuing fellowship as possible.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>However, while the letter shows that there is deep disquiet in the most senior ranks of the Church, the meetings with Rome will be of far greater concern to Dr Williams.<\/p>\n<p>One bishop involved in the talks, who wished to remain anonymous, said he was left with no option. &#8220;The Church of England is becoming more and more like the American Church. Those of us who hold to traditional orthodoxy are very concerned about the direction it seems to be moving in.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> Check out <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/uknews\/2254269\/Anglican-bishops-in-secret-Vatican-summit.html\">the link<\/a> for more details.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is an astonishing bit of news, and could signal the beginning of the end of the Church of England as we know it: Senior Church of England bishops have held secret talks with Vatican officials to discuss the crisis in the Anglican communion over gays and women bishops. 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