{"id":1971,"date":"2007-10-15T23:46:00","date_gmt":"2007-10-15T23:46:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/deaconsbench\/2007\/10\/catholics-for-hillary.html"},"modified":"2007-10-15T23:46:00","modified_gmt":"2007-10-15T23:46:00","slug":"catholics-for-hillary","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2007\/10\/catholics-for-hillary.html","title":{"rendered":"Catholics for Hillary?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The always thought-provoking Deal Hudson is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.postchronicle.com\/religion\/printer_212109256.shtml\">provoking thought<\/a> this week on the subject of Hillary Clinton and Catholics.  He wonders who is to blame if Hillary collects the Catholic vote next year: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_0DySLTT4PWo\/RxQ2oLdyjqI\/AAAAAAAABM4\/dj0nryzsEjw\/s1600-h\/hillary.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:left;margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_0DySLTT4PWo\/RxQ2oLdyjqI\/AAAAAAAABM4\/dj0nryzsEjw\/s320\/hillary.jpg\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>&#8220;If Giuliani and Clinton are the nominees, then Hillary Clinton will certainly win the Catholic vote in 2008.&#8221; This is the opinion of a chief strategist behind George W. Bush&#8217;s success with Catholic voters in 2000 and 2004.<\/p>\n<p>Steve Wagner, president of QEV Analytics in Washington, D.C., isn&#8217;t happy in reaching this conclusion. &#8220;Hillary Clinton, in spite of her pro-abortion position, will present a vigorous social justice agenda that will fill the void created by the GOP candidates.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>For Wagner, none of the major Republican contenders has any special appeal to the Catholic voter.<\/p>\n<p>In a November 1998 article in Crisis Magazine, Wagner demonstrated that reaching out to Mass-attending Catholics was the key to winning their vote. This basic insight became the bedrock of President Bush&#8217;s Catholic outreach in 2000 and 2004.<\/p>\n<p>Wagner sees Catholics being on the &#8220;sideline&#8221; during the GOP primaries: &#8220;They will split along the lines of voters as a whole.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>I asked him whether it&#8217;s too late for a candidate to appeal directly to Catholic voters during the primaries. &#8220;Someone like Fred Thompson could announce his choice of vice president the way Ronald Reagan did in 1976 &#8212; the right running mate could galvanize Catholic voters and other people of faith.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Then I asked him whether Rudy Giuliani has a natural affinity with Catholic voters. Wagner pointed to the example of John Kerry. &#8220;Kerry was punished for being a pro-abortion Catholic. Giuliani is wise not to talk about being a Catholic, or he will suffer the same fate.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>In other words, Giuliani&#8217;s ethnic identity as a Catholic will not help him very much, and it may hurt him with religiously-active Catholics.<\/p>\n<p>Wagner believes Catholic voters are disappointed in the GOP, which makes them open to responding to the social justice agenda of the likely Democratic nominee, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. &#8220;Her message of helping the poor and those in need, in spite of her pro-abortion position, will be quite potent to Catholics when the GOP has nothing else to offer.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Clinton&#8217;s social justice message will bring Catholic voters in her direction the way &#8220;compassionate conservatism&#8221; worked for Bush in 2000.<\/p>\n<p>Wagner explains, &#8220;The Catholic discontent with Bush and the Republican Party is not about Iraq, or he would have lost their vote in 2004. It&#8217;s about their failure to deliver on the promises they made to address the moral decline of our society. Iraq and 9\/11 distracted the president and the party from addressing the core concerns of Catholics and other people of faith.&#8221; <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> There&#8217;s more at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.postchronicle.com\/religion\/article_212109256.shtml\">the link<\/a>, but you get the drift.  I&#8217;m not sure I entirely agree with the whole thing &#8212; I do think, for example, that a fair amount of Catholic discontent with Bush and the GOP <u>is<\/u> about Iraq &#8212;  but he makes some compelling points.  And he concludes that both parties will share the blame if Hillary wins the Catholic vote.  <\/p>\n<p>On that, I think, he&#8217;s only partially correct.  <\/p>\n<p>He neglects to mention a third party that will be responsible as well:  the Catholic Church in America.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The always thought-provoking Deal Hudson is provoking thought this week on the subject of Hillary Clinton and Catholics. 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