{"id":1644,"date":"2007-07-30T13:46:00","date_gmt":"2007-07-30T13:46:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/deaconsbench\/2007\/07\/what-happened-after-vatican-ii-just-ask-the-pope.html"},"modified":"2007-07-30T13:46:00","modified_gmt":"2007-07-30T13:46:00","slug":"what-happened-after-vatican-ii-just-ask-the-pope","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/deaconsbench\/2007\/07\/what-happened-after-vatican-ii-just-ask-the-pope.html","title":{"rendered":"What happened after Vatican II?  Just ask the pope"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_0DySLTT4PWo\/Rq4lvVGldlI\/AAAAAAAAAaI\/UhBoRX84agY\/s1600-h\/Altar-at-Vatican-II%5B1%5D.gif\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:left;margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer;cursor:hand\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_0DySLTT4PWo\/Rq4lvVGldlI\/AAAAAAAAAaI\/UhBoRX84agY\/s320\/Altar-at-Vatican-II%5B1%5D.gif\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a> Here&#8217;s a fascinating &#8212; and illuminating &#8212; <a href=\"http:\/\/chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it\/dettaglio.jsp?id=158061&amp;eng=y\">critique<\/a> of the years following Vatican II from someone in a position to know: Pope Benedict XVI.  It strikes me as particularly on target, because he places the upheaval in its proper context, the &#8217;60s and beyond:<i><\/p>\n<blockquote><p> We must note that there were two great historic upheavals in the concrete context of the postconciliar period. <\/p>\n<p>The first is the convulsion of 1968, the beginning \u2013 or explosion, I dare say \u2013 of the great cultural crisis of the West. The postwar generation had ended, a generation that, after seeing all the destruction and horror of war, of combat, and witnessing the drama of the great ideologies that had actually led people toward the precipice of war, had discovered the Christian roots of Europe and had begun to rebuild Europe with these great inspirations. But with the end of this generation there were also seen all of the failures, the gaps in this reconstruction, the great misery in the world, and so began the explosion of the crisis of Western culture, what I would call a cultural revolution that wants to change everything radically. It says: In two thousand years of Christianity, we have not created a better world; we must begin again from nothing, in an absolutely new way. Marxism seems to be the scientific formula for creating, at last, the new world. <\/p>\n<p>In this \u2013 let us say \u2013 serious, great clash between the new, healthy modernity desired by the Council and the crisis of modernity, everything becomes difficult, like after the first Council of Nicaea. <\/p>\n<p>One side was of the opinion that this cultural revolution was what the Council had wanted. It identified this new Marxist cultural revolution with the will of the Council. It said: This is the Council; in the letter the texts are still a bit antiquated, but behind the written words is this \u201cspirit,\u201d this is the will of the Council, this is what we must do. And on the other side, naturally, was the reaction: you are destroying the Church. The \u2013 let us say \u2013 absolute reaction against the Council, anticonciliarity, and \u2013 let us say \u2013 the timid, humble search to realize the true spirit of the Council. And as a proverb says: \u201cIf a tree falls it makes a lot of noise, but if a forest grows no one hears a thing,\u201d during these great noises of mistaken progressivism and absolute anticonciliarism, there grew very quietly, with much suffering and with many losses in its construction, a new cultural passageway, the way of the Church. <\/p>\n<p>And then came the second upheaval in 1989, the fall of the communist regimes. But the response was not a return to the faith, as one perhaps might have expected; it was not the rediscovery that the Church, with the authentic Council, had provided the response. The response was, instead, total skepticism, so-called post-modernity. <\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> There&#8217;s much more, including some apt comparisons between Vatican II and the first church council, Nicaea, which gave birth to the Nicene creed.  It&#8217;s all fascinating stuff.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s a fascinating &#8212; and illuminating &#8212; critique of the years following Vatican II from someone in a position to know: Pope Benedict XVI. 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