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What is the role of spiritual activism in the world? Does God stand aside from “real life” and have nothing to do with it? What do you think?
\nI have been exploring that question this week here in the blog. Below is the final entry in this series…
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\nA letter from a CwG reader brings up a recurring theme, and I so want to comment at length on it in this blog\u2026This observation and opinion is from a writer whose name we will change to Madolyn, in order to protect her privacy.
\nDear Neale\u2026When I read CwG it changed my life. I had never felt so free. I was always guilty, scared of the devil, angry. I hated every religion because they all told me how to believe in God. I love him and he loves me and our relationship is very simple but strong and that’s all I need but no one could ever leave me alone or accept that. It had to be hard. Life had to be a trial. CwG changed all that for me.
\nWant to know the scary thing though? Every week I read your newsletter and every week I want to cry afterward. This isn’t freedom. This is just another organized religion disguised as freedom. Seminars in Australia, Q and A, weekly bulletins telling us the plan to change everyone’s mind about God. What’s next? Preachers? Confession?
\nI don’t want to change anyone’s mind about God. God can do that if he wants. I tell people my beliefs when they ask, but rarely before. It’s like being a lady: if you have to say you are, then you aren’t.
\nIf all of us ReCreationists (I’m not calling it anything else…I don’t even like that it has a name) have to go around talking about it and changing people and basically farming for converts and acting so pretentious, then what kind of revolution is this? One that is false. One that is arrogant and show off-y. This is not love in its highest form. This is not pure truth.
\nLet’s not Doomsday here. God is spectacular! We are Magnificent beings! Including the Baptist in Tennessee and the atheist in NYC. All magnificent.
\nI really don’t care what anyone does. How they love God or themselves. It doesn’t matter to me. But I would prefer it if the “religion” I belong to didn’t act like we are so much better than anyone. We are not. Nothing is better than anything and we all know it.
\nMadolyn
\nNEALE’S RESPONSE…<\/p>\n


\nMy dear friend….Oh, Madolyn, do I disagree with you! I will go further. May I say with all due respect that this point of view is exactly why the so-called New Thought community has been so utterly impotent in creating the world it says that it desires to experience.
\nGod helps those who help themselves, Madolyn.
\nI am going to do something here, Madolyn, that I rarely do. I am going to respond to your email one statement at a time—because I believe that we are hitting upon, RIGHT HERE, the REASON WHY WE ARE HAVING ZERO EFFECTIVENESS IN CHANGING OUR WORLD.
\nGod works through US, Madolyn. WE ARE THE GOD YOU ARE TALKNG ABOUT HERE. And when WE do nothing, then GOD is doing nothing!
\nLet’s take a look at your letter, paragraph by paragraph.
\nWhen I read CwG it changed my life. I had never felt so free. I was always guilty, scared of the devil, angry. I hated every religion because they all told me how to believe in God. I love him and he loves me and our relationship is very simple but strong and that’s all I need but no one could ever leave me alone or accept that. It had to be hard. Life had to be a trial. CwG changed all that for me.<\/strong>
\nI\u2019m so glad that this has been your experience, Madolyn. That was my experience, too. I felt blessed by this experience\u2014as if someone had given me a million dollars. I felt so incredibly excited! But then I noticed something. I looked around me and I noticed something. I noticed that very few people were feeling what I was feeling! I noticed that half the world was miserable, and the other half was trying not to be. People everywhere were unhappy, not joyful, living without peace or inner harmony.
\nMy heart went out to them. I felt like I was sitting in a corner with a million dollars in a canvas bag and everyone around me was starving. After a while, after I heard actual crying and moaning and angry shouts at God, I couldn\u2019t stand it anymore. I knew I had to do something with what I knew, with what was given to me.
\nThe first thing I did was seek to have my personal notes\u2014the handwritten transcripts of my conversations with God\u2014published. I am glad I did this. Had I not done this, we would be discussing nothing here, Madolyn. Had I not become a spiritual activist and decided to turn my personal notes into books, we would be discussing nothing here. I hope that you see that. The wonderful experience that you say you have had, you would not have had.
\nYou\u2019ve said that CwG changed your life. I am so happy about that, Madolyn. And what is true right now for me, Madolyn, is that I am not willing to have it stop there. I am not willing to have it stop at Madolyn, to call a halt at Madolyn. I want to make sure that the whole world has a chance to be touched in the way that your life was touched.
\nBut I digress. Let\u2019s get back to your letter\u2026
\nWant to know the scary thing though? Every week I read this news letter and every week I want to cry afterward. This isn’t freedom. This is just another organized religion disguised as freedom. Seminars in Australia, Q and A, weekly bulletins telling us the plan to change everyone’s mind about God. What’s next? Preachers? Confession? <\/strong>
\nNo, Madolyn, what\u2019s \u201cnext\u201d is an all-out push, full bore boogie, petal to the metal, to make sure that the freedom-giving message of CwG gets past Madolyn and out into the whole world. That\u2019s why we are planning seminars in Australia, Madolyn. Because people in Australia have been begging us to. They have written to the Foundation asking us, \u201cPLEASE, can you bring this message in person to us, and create programs here like the ones you have in the U.S.?\u201d
\nOf course, Madolyn, we could say \u201cno. Let God do that. If God wants this message to be taken to Australia in person, God will make that happen.\u201d OR\u2026.we could see ourselves as Who We Really ARE\u2026.Gods and Goddesses in human form\u2026.and use our lives to do God\u2019s never-ending work in the world\u2014which is OUR never-ending work of recreating ourselves anew in the next grandest version of the greatest vision ever we held about Who We Are.
\nYes, we do a Q&A and send out Weekly Bulletins\u2026you bet we do. The Q&A is our way of answering questions that are sent to us, Madolyn, and helping other people who may have the same kinds of questions. And the Weekly Bulletin does not \u201ctell\u201d us to plan to change everyone\u2019s mind about God\u2026it INVITES us to. What\u2019s next? Preachers? Confession? No. Just an all-out effort to help the world see God in a new way, to see Life in a new way, and to see Each Other in a new way, so that Conversations with God will not be just the latest hot read, and then, \u201cyesterday\u2019s ice cream,\u201d but will be a message meant for all of humanity that truly changed the world.
\nYes, Madolyn\u2026we seek to change the world. Not because the world is \u201cwrong\u201d in what it is doing, but because CwG tells us that every act is an act of self-definition, and the world as it now IS does not accurately define Who We Are. There will be no \u201cpreachers,\u201d Madolyn, but there will be study group facilitators, lecturers, and program presenters. Is that okay with you? Is it okay if we even talk about this message of the New Spirituality in any organized way?
\nBecause I will tell you one problem with the world today, Madolyn. One problem with the world today is that the \u201ccivil\u201d are not organized\u2026and the organized are not \u201ccivil\u201d!
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\nI don’t want to change anyone’s mind about God. God can do that if he wants. I tell people my beliefs when they ask, but rarely before. It’s like being a lady: if you have to say you are, then you aren’t. <\/strong>
\nMy wonderful Madolyn\u2026.this very statement, right here, tells me that you may very well have missed the whole point of the books that you say changed your life. When you say, \u201cGod can do that if he wants,\u201d who is this God you are talking about? And what do you imagine that this God \u201cwants\u201d?
\nHave you read What God Wants? It makes it very clear that God wants nothing more and nothing less than WE want, because GOD is US. Yet your statement makes it sound as if you think God is \u201cover THERE\u201d and we are \u201cover here\u201d.
\nDo you think that God is separate from us, Madolyn? And if you don\u2019t, then if God wanted to change people\u2019s mind about God, that could only mean that WE wanted to change people\u2019s mind about God, because what God wants, we want, and what we want, God wants. (CwG Book 1: \u201cYour will for you is My will for you.\u201d)
\nAnd if this is our desire, God would have to do that through US, would She not?
\nI tell people my beliefs when they ask, and rarely before, too, Madolyn. We do not send our Weekly Bulletin or our monthly newsletter to anyone who does not ask for it. We take our workshops and retreats to places where people are asking for them. Our worldwide outreach is in response to the worldwide reaction to Conversations with God from its seven million readers.
\nWe do not go door to door, we do not proselytize, we do not seek \u201cconverts,\u201d but we certainly DO make the message of the New Spirituality available to those we are actively seeking an alternative viewpoint about God and Life\u2014and we do so with energy and enthusiasm, because we believe this message can change the world, not just your life, Madolyn. You see, we don\u2019t want to stop there.
\nIf all of us ReCreationists (I’m not calling it anything else…I don’t even like that it has a name) have to go around talking about it and changing people and basically farming for converts and acting so pretentious, then what kind of revolution is this? One that is false. One that is arrogant and show off-y. This is not love in its highest form. This is not pure truth. <\/strong>
\nGosh, Madolyn, you and I just have a very real and very basic disagreement here. No revolution in the world ever got off the ground without people talking about it, for heaven sake. Talking about it does not make it a \u201cfalse revolution.\u201d NOT \u201ctalking about it\u201d would make it a NON-revolution in a hurry.
\n(\u201cHey, guys, there\u2019s this incredible new point of view about God and about our world in this wonderful series of books\u2026.but I can\u2019t talk about it, because that would make it \u2018false.\u2019 Sorry. We can\u2019t hold retreats about it, or give talks. In fact, we barely got away with publishing the BOOK. If it had been a TRUE revolution, the book would have published Itself. But, well, this guy went ahead and published it\u2026but that\u2019s it. That\u2019s all he\u2019s allowed to do. He\u2019s not going to say a word about it to anyone from now on! Otherwise it would be a false revolution.\u201d)
\nuh\u2026okaaay, if that\u2019s the way you think the universe makes something \u201ctrue\u201d and not \u201cfalse\u201d\u2026but, uh\u2026hmmm\u2026.perhaps a program of education, with retreats and newsletters and question-and-answer columns might be all right, don\u2019t you think\u2026.? Is \u201cgoing around talking about it\u201d not \u201clove in its highest form\u201d? Should, for that matter, none of us say \u201cI love you\u201d anymore? Does talking about it make it \u201cnot pure truth\u201d?
\nLet’s not Doomsday here. God is spectacular! We are Magnificent beings! Including the Baptist in Tennessee and the athiest in NYC. All magnificent. <\/strong>
\nThis brings up a very, verrrry important question, Madolyn. Is it \u201cdoomsday-ing\u201d to say that the train in coming and that we are standing in the middle of the tracks? God IS spectacular, Madolyn! That\u2019s what makes it possible for God to create miracles\u2026like telling us THROUGH us to get off the railroad tracks when the train is coming.
\nI totally \u201cget\u201d that we should not be focusing mainly on negative news and negative energies and all the \u201cbad stuff\u201d that is going on around us, Madolyn. But do you think it\u2019s okay to simply mention it? To observe it? And to seek to do something about it?
\nThe next time your child has a cold, is it okay to notice it, to mention it, to do something about it? Is it okay to help your child heal the cold? Or should we just do a New Age Bypass and pretend the cold is not there\u2026? Is ignoring what we are creating the True Revolution? Is that what the New Spirituality is all about?
\nI am not interested, Madolyn, in Ostrich Spirituality. I am clear that burying my head in the ground is not going to make what I don\u2019t want to see go away.
\nI really don’t care what anyone does. How they love God or themselves. It doesn’t matter to me. But I would prefer it if the “religion” I belong to didn’t act like we are so much better than anyone. We are not. Nothing is better than anything and we all know it.<\/strong>
\n\u201cI really don\u2019t care what anyone does\u201d is an extraordinary statement, Madolyn. I DO care what others do, because I am clear that the very idea of \u201cothers\u201d is a fiction. There is no one else but ME, in differentiated form. We are All One, Madolyn. We are not separate from God and we are not separate from Each Other. Your statements throughout this message to us, Madolyn, seems to speak of Separation Theology all over the place.
\nYou say you don\u2019t care how others love God or themselves. It doesn\u2019t matter to you. Well, it does matter to me, Madolyn. If \u201chow others love God\u201d is by flying airplanes into buidings, or by dropping bombs on innocent civilians, killing thousands of people, then I DO care, Madolyn. And they ARE doing this out of love for God, Madolyn. THAT\u2019S WHAT SOME PEOPLE DON\u2019T WANT TO LOOK AT. People are doing what they are doing because they believe themselves to be doing the Will of God.
\nI agree with you wholeheartedly about one thing you said, my friend. You said that you would prefer that the \u201creligion\u201d you belong to does not act as if we are so much better than anyone. That is why the CwG message is and has always been, \u201cOurs is not a better way, ours is merely another way.\u201d You are right. Nothing IS \u201cbetter\u201d than anything\u2026but that does not mean that we may never, ever again announce a CHOICE about ANYTHING. Surely we can choose the red sweater or the green sweater without being accused of making the green sweater \u201cwrong.\u201d Sure we can choose chocolate over vanilla without being accused of making vanilla \u201cwrong.\u201d
\nLife is about Choice, Madolyn. And by our choices and actions we define, announce, and demonstrate Who We Are.
\nThe only spiritual truth that has ever CHANGED the world is spiritual truth that has MADE the world LOOK at the world and say, \u201cIs this how we really want it to be?\u201d
\nJesus did not change the world by going around saying \u201cEverything is beautiful just the way it is. I don\u2019t care what anybody does. To each his own, I always say. God will handle the rest.\u201d Jesus changed the world by saying to the world, \u201cWake UP! Are you seeing what is being created here? Wake UP!\u201d
\nMoses did not change the world by going around saying \u201cEverything is beautiful just the way it is. I don\u2019t care what anybody does. To each his own, I always say. God will handle the rest.\u201d Moses changed the world by saying to the world, \u201cWake UP! Are you seeing what is being created here? Wake UP!\u201d
\nMuhammad did not change the world by going around saying \u201cEverything is beautiful just the way it is. I don\u2019t care what anybody does. To each his own, I always say. God will handle the rest.\u201d Muhammad changed the world by saying to the world, \u201cWake UP! Are you seeing what is being created here? Wake UP!\u201d
\nMother Theresa did not change the world by going around saying \u201cEverything is beautiful just the way it is. I don\u2019t care what anybody does. To each his own, I always say. God will handle the rest.\u201d Mother Theresa changed the world by saying to the world, \u201cWake UP! Are you seeing what is being created here? Wake UP!\u201d
\nGandhi did not change the world by going around saying \u201cEverything is beautiful just the way it is. I don\u2019t care what anybody does. To each his own, I always say. God will handle the rest.\u201d Gandhi changed the world by saying to the world, \u201cWake UP! Are you seeing what is being created here? Wake UP!\u201d
\nMartin Luther King Jr. did not change the world by going around saying \u201cEverything is beautiful just the way it is. I don\u2019t care what anybody does. To each his own, I always say. God will handle the rest.\u201d Martin Luther King Jr. changed the world by saying to the world, \u201cWake UP! Are you seeing what is being created here? Wake UP!\u201d
\nMany of these people made others\u2014the regular folks living in their day and time\u2014so angry by what they were being made to LOOK AT that those others killed them.
\nKILL THE MESSENGER! KILL THE MESSENGER! That\u2019s usually the best idea\u2026
\nDon\u2019t fix the problem. Don\u2019t even look at the problem. Kill the messenger. Abandon the messenger.
\nSo here\u2019s what I want you to know, Madolyn. The world needs to wake up.
\nThe trick is to stay positive in the face of negative information. See every negativity not as a tragedy, but as an opportunity, and embrace the opportunity joyfully as your next chance to experience who you really are, and then to recreate yourself anew
\nSo the trick is not to ignore the fact that the train is coming, but to get off the tracks, get on the train, and tell it where you want it to go.
\nWhew!
\nThat\u2019s my point of view, Madolyn. And thanks for bringing this all up, and letting me share my thoughts with you.
\nLove and hugs always\u2026.neale.
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