{"id":390,"date":"2008-09-09T06:27:36","date_gmt":"2008-09-09T06:27:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/conversationswithgod\/2008\/09\/are-catholics-really-members-o.html"},"modified":"2008-09-09T06:27:36","modified_gmt":"2008-09-09T06:27:36","slug":"are-catholics-really-members-o","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/conversationswithgod\/2008\/09\/are-catholics-really-members-o.html","title":{"rendered":"Are Catholics really members of Unity?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If &#8220;The Kingdom of God is within you&#8221; means that God is in you, does that mean that God and we are One? Or does that mean that God is STILL &#8220;over there&#8221; while we are &#8220;over here&#8221;&#8230;?<br \/>\nThis question comes up for me as a result of the blog and comments from yesterday. Our latest exchange here was eventuated by an entry in the Comments Section a few days ago.  For those who may be just joining us, let&#8217;s &#8220;review the bidding&#8221; here&#8230;<br \/>\nThree days ago I published on this blog an excerpt from my book <em>What God Wants<\/em>, in which I point out that the theology represented by our traditional teachings is a theology of separation. &#8220;In this theology, we are &#8216;over here&#8217; and God is &#8216;over there&#8217;.&#8221;<br \/>\nIn response to that, a nice person posting as &#8220;Bob&#8221; placed this entry into the Comments Section&#8230;<br \/>\n<strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nThe theology of my Church (Roman Catholic) doesn&#8217;t teach that. It teaches that the Lord is in here *points to heart*, that the Holy Spirit resides in each of us.<br \/>\nIt would be nice if you checked your facts against the official teachings of the organized religions you like to talk about.<br \/>\nPosted by: Bob | September 6, 2008 8:05 AM<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><\/strong><br \/>\nThis started a lively conversation yesterday in this space, with over 20 people contributing. Most, I must say, agreed with me, sharing with us that they, too, were taught in Catholic school that the Kingdom of God may be &#8220;within you,&#8221; but that did not mean that God and you were One.<br \/>\nIndeed, the Catholic Church taught us exactly the opposite when I was young. I&#8217;ve been over all that here before, so I won&#8217;t go back into it now. But today I&#8217;d like to really take a honest, close, open-minded look at just what DOES the statement &#8220;The Kingdom of God is within you&#8221; mean?<br \/>\nDoes it mean, in fact, that God and we are One? Does it mean that there is no separation between Man and God? Does it mean that human beings are &#8220;divine,&#8221; in the truest sense of the word; that God and humans are intertwined, one being, interlaced, and with a Single Identity?<br \/>\nDoes &#8220;The Kingdom of God is within you&#8221; mean that there really is only One Thing in the Universe &#8212; one Force, one Essence, one Being &#8212;  manifesting Itself in a billion ga-zillion ways that we call Life&#8230;including both the Physical and the Non-Physical?<br \/>\nWhat <em>does<\/em> this famous statement mean? And, does the Catholic Church really teach, as Robert, above, says that it does, that God and humans are One and the Same; that there is No Separation &#8212; and therefore no need to &#8220;return to God, which is in Heaven,&#8221; since God is One With Us Always? Is this standard Roman Catholic theology? (That would make the Catholic Church and Unity the same religion, essentially. The Unity Church teaches Christianity &#8220;with a twist.&#8221; If I understand it correctly, it teaches that God and we &#8212; and everything, actually &#8212; are One.) Or does Catholicism teach that God and Man are <em>separate?<\/em> Could it be Robert who does not have a clear understanding of Catholic doctrine?<br \/>\nhmmm&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If &#8220;The Kingdom of God is within you&#8221; means that God is in you, does that mean that God and we are One? 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