{"id":598,"date":"2010-02-23T09:12:03","date_gmt":"2010-02-23T09:12:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/cityofbrass\/2010\/02\/the-public-demands-an-up-or-do.html"},"modified":"2010-02-23T09:12:03","modified_gmt":"2010-02-23T09:12:03","slug":"the-public-demands-an-up-or-do","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/2010\/02\/the-public-demands-an-up-or-do.html","title":{"rendered":"the public demands an up or down vote on health care"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Back in 2005, the then-majority Republicans were the ones who insisted that filibusters were obstructing the will of the people and that the Senate had a democratic obligation to do an &#8220;up or down vote&#8221;. <\/p>\n<p>Today, the Republicans are the minority and they have obstructed health care desperately needed by Americans for no reason other than their political ambition to take down President Obama &#8211; this is an explicit goal, with Rush Limbaugh publically saying he hopes &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2009\/01\/20\/limbaugh-obama-fail\/\">the President will fail<\/a>&#8221; and GOP Senator DeMint calling health care &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.abcnews.com\/politicalpunch\/2009\/07\/white-house-plans-to-use-demints-waterloo-quote-to-rally-the-troops.html\">Obama&#8217;s Waterloo<\/a>&#8220;. Their focus is solely on their political advantage &#8211; whereas the Democrats are trying to solve a problem &#8211; one that&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/blog\/2010\/02\/20\/health-care-shocker-shows-nobody-immune-insurance-company-abuses\">gotten even worse as reform has been delayed<\/a> in futile attempts at &#8220;bipartisanship&#8221; (defined by Republicans as: &#8220;do it our way. And we still won&#8217;t vote for it.&#8221;)<\/p>\n<p>The political opposition does have a right &#8211; and a duty &#8211; to oppose legislation that they disagree with. But this excuse is flimsy when it comes to health care reform because <a href=\"http:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/health-care-meeting\/republican-ideas\">so many Republican ideas have already been incorporated<\/a> already. <\/p>\n<p>Despite the truly bipartisan nature of the bills under consideration, the GOP spin is that health reform is a &#8220;socialist government takeover&#8221; of health care shaped by &#8220;secret back room deals&#8221;. It&#8217;s no such thing, and you can see for yourself &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/health-care-meeting\/proposal\">the President&#8217;s proposal is posted online<\/a> for all to see. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/health-care-meeting\/bipartisan-meeting\">health care summit this Thursday<\/a> will be televised live and streamed online for the public to see as well. <\/p>\n<p>The other acceptable rationale for obstruction by the minority would be if the legislation was truly something that the American public did not want. Only then would the minority be able to argue that they are representing the true democratic will of the people &#8211; and that&#8217;s an important function of our system, one reason why (unlike the Repuublicans back in 2005) the Democrats are only interested in filibuster reform, not abolishing it outright. <\/p>\n<p>However, in this case the public is overwhelmingly in favor of some solution to health care and the Republican minority, in threatening filibusters to obstruct the bill, is <a href=\"http:\/\/theplumline.whorunsgov.com\/senate-republicans\/polls-in-key-states-public-option-far-more-popular-than-senate-plan\/\">standing against the democratic will<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>A batch of state polls by the non-partisan Research 2000 shows that in multiple states represented by key Dem Senators who will have to decide whether to support reconciliation, the public option polls far better than the Senate bill does, often by lopsided margins.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a rundown, sent over by the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, which commissioned the polls:<\/p>\n<p><b>*<\/b> In Nevada, only 34% support the Senate bill, while 56% support the public option.<\/p>\n<p><b>*<\/b> In Illinois, only 37% support the Senate bill, while 68% support the public option.<\/p>\n<p><b>*<\/b> In Washington State, only 38% support the Senate bill, while 65% support the public option.<\/p>\n<p><b>*<\/b> In Missouri, only 33% support the Senate bill, while 57% support the public option.<\/p>\n<p><b>*<\/b> In Virginia, only 36% support the Senate bill, while 61% support the public option.<\/p>\n<p><b>*<\/b> In Iowa, only 35% support the Senate bill, while 62% support the public option.<\/p>\n<p><b>*<\/b>In Minnesota, only 35% support the Senate bill, while 62% support the public option.<\/p>\n<p><b>*<\/b> In Colorado, only 32% support the Senate bill, while 58% support the public option.<\/p>\n<p>The full poll on all the states, with partisan breakdowns and other questions, is online <a href=\"http:\/\/act.boldprogressives.org\/cms\/sign\/poll_national_20100220\/&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;\">&#8220;&gt;right here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Research 2000 is a widely-respected polling outfit and their methodology is rock solid &#8211; the company&#8217;s president <a href=\"http:\/\/kos.dailykos.com\/storyonly\/2010\/2\/6\/833471\/-How-a-poll-is-conducted\">explained their methodology in detail<\/a> in response to conservative outrage after their now-infamous poll about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/statepoll\/2010\/1\/31\/US\/437\">self-identified Republican beliefs<\/a>. The lack of good messaging from Obama&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/cityofbrass\/2010\/02\/political-stimulus-is-obama-ou.html\">conflicted White House staff<\/a> has hurt the image of the bill in the public eye, but polls devoted to specific issues of health reform (which are addressed in the legislation) show <a href=\"http:\/\/voices.washingtonpost.com\/behind-the-numbers\/2010\/02\/publics_take_on_the_presidents.html\">strong majorities in support of the basic concepts<\/a>. The <a href=\"http:\/\/yglesias.thinkprogress.org\/archives\/2010\/02\/the-outlook-and-the-economy.php\">anti-incumbent mood<\/a> out there is as much a function of the wasted time and lack of result than anything else. <\/p>\n<p>The GOP still has a chance this Thursday to be a part of the solution. Health reform does indeed deserve an up-or-down vote on the merits. The democrats seem to have found their spine and are explicitly saying in advance of the summit that if the Republicans filibuster health reform anyway, then <a href=\"http:\/\/theplumline.whorunsgov.com\/health-care\/white-house-if-gop-filibusters-well-pass-health-reform-via-reconciliation\/\">they will proceed with reconciliation<\/a> to get the job done without GOP support. And the voters will reward them in November for it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Back in 2005, the then-majority Republicans were the ones who insisted that filibusters were obstructing the will of the people and that the Senate had a democratic obligation to do an &#8220;up or down vote&#8221;. Today, the Republicans are the minority and they have obstructed health care desperately needed by Americans for no reason other&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":165,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[275,320,25,26,32],"class_list":["post-598","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-purple-politics","tag-democrats","tag-health-reform","tag-news","tag-politics","tag-republicans"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>the public demands an up or down vote on health care - City of Brass<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"noindex, follow\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"the public demands an up or down vote on health care - City of Brass\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Back in 2005, the then-majority Republicans were the ones who insisted that filibusters were obstructing the will of the people and that the Senate had a democratic obligation to do an &#8220;up or down vote&#8221;. Today, the Republicans are the minority and they have obstructed health care desperately needed by Americans for no reason other&hellip;\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/2010\/02\/the-public-demands-an-up-or-do.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"City of Brass\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2010-02-23T09:12:03+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Aziz Poonawalla\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"the public demands an up or down vote on health care - City of Brass","robots":{"index":"noindex","follow":"follow"},"og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"the public demands an up or down vote on health care - City of Brass","og_description":"Back in 2005, the then-majority Republicans were the ones who insisted that filibusters were obstructing the will of the people and that the Senate had a democratic obligation to do an &#8220;up or down vote&#8221;. Today, the Republicans are the minority and they have obstructed health care desperately needed by Americans for no reason other&hellip;","og_url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/2010\/02\/the-public-demands-an-up-or-do.html","og_site_name":"City of Brass","article_published_time":"2010-02-23T09:12:03+00:00","author":"Aziz Poonawalla","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/2010\/02\/the-public-demands-an-up-or-do.html","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/2010\/02\/the-public-demands-an-up-or-do.html","name":"the public demands an up or down vote on health care - City of Brass","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/#website"},"datePublished":"2010-02-23T09:12:03+00:00","dateModified":"2010-02-23T09:12:03+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/#\/schema\/person\/87dfd5533a0222456bb5ad6eaf152fbb"},"breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/2010\/02\/the-public-demands-an-up-or-do.html#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/2010\/02\/the-public-demands-an-up-or-do.html"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/2010\/02\/the-public-demands-an-up-or-do.html#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"the public demands an up or down vote on health care"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/","name":"City of Brass","description":"Beliefnet Voices - Aziz Poonawalla","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/#\/schema\/person\/87dfd5533a0222456bb5ad6eaf152fbb","name":"Aziz Poonawalla","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/wp-content\/wphb-cache\/gravatar\/a95\/a95f814e7f2984c887f3b03aed357433x96.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/wp-content\/wphb-cache\/gravatar\/a95\/a95f814e7f2984c887f3b03aed357433x96.jpg","caption":"Aziz Poonawalla"},"description":"Aziz Poonawalla is a member of the Dawoodi Bohra Muslim community, and currently lives in Los Angeles with his wife and two children. City of Brass is his weblog, which was founded in 2002 under the name UNMEDIA. He is a co-founder of the annual Brass Crescent Awards. The name City of Brass refers to the Story of the City of Brass in the Thousand and One Nights, and the poem by Rudyard Kipling of the same name: Here was a people whom, after their works, thou shalt see wept over for their lost dominion; And in this palace is the last information respecting lords collected in the dust. -- Thousand and One Nights, Story of the City of Brass IN A land that the sand overlays, the ways to her gates are untrod, A multitude ended their days whose fates were made splendid by God, Till they grew drunk and were smitten with madness and went to their fall, And of these is a story written: but Allah Alone knoweth all! -- Rudyard Kipling, The City of Brass (1909)"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/598","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/165"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=598"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/598\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=598"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=598"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=598"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}