{"id":117,"date":"2008-11-17T07:45:18","date_gmt":"2008-11-17T07:45:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/cityofbrass\/2008\/11\/muslims-and-modernity.html"},"modified":"2008-11-17T07:45:18","modified_gmt":"2008-11-17T07:45:18","slug":"muslims-and-modernity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/cityofbrass\/2008\/11\/muslims-and-modernity.html","title":{"rendered":"Muslims and modernity"},"content":{"rendered":"

At Talk Islam, a great discussion has ensured<\/a> (as tends to happen over there) about analogizing between Islam and other religions, especially when talking about “reformations” or about labels. Abu Noor points out, <\/p>\n

those both within and without Islam that call for “reformation” are not
\nreally calling at all for anything like the Protestant reformation of
\nChristianity but are in fact calling for a Reform Islam movement that
\nwould resemble Reform Judaism.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

He also proposes the term “Orthodox Muslim” as a better label for those muslims attempting to engage in such a process. The debate turns to the fact that Jews can also be thought of as an ethnic group in addition to a religious one, whereas thats not the case for muslims in the US (though in one sense it is a good approximation for muslims in Europe, on a country by country basis). <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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