{"id":5,"date":"2010-06-23T04:02:57","date_gmt":"2010-06-23T04:02:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/catholicsmediaandculture\/2010\/06\/pope-joan-film-stirs-catholic-controversy.html"},"modified":"2010-06-23T04:02:57","modified_gmt":"2010-06-23T04:02:57","slug":"pope-joan-film-stirs-catholic-controversy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/catholicsmediaandculture\/2010\/06\/pope-joan-film-stirs-catholic-controversy.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Pope Joan&#8221; film stirs Catholic controversy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Did she or didn&#8217;t she&#8230;exist?<\/p>\n<p>Based on a novel that is itself based on a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usnews.com\/usnews\/doubleissue\/mysteries\/pope.htm\">legend<\/a> that won&#8217;t go away, the new German film <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/worldnews\/europe\/vaticancityandholysee\/7841690\/Pope-Joan-film-sparks-Roman-Catholic-Church-row.html\">Pope Joan<\/a><\/em> tells the story of a ninth century young woman who, frustrated by a lack of opportunities for women (the 9th century was, after all, pre-<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Title_IX\">Title 9<\/a>), allegedly disguised herself as a guy so that she could enter a Benedictine monastery.<\/p>\n<p>As the story goes, she actually rose to the top job and was only discovered when she went into a labor while riding a horse during a procession.&nbsp; That would be a sure giveaway. I mean Catholics aren&#8217;t stupid.<\/p>\n<p>In any event, this isn&#8217;t the first cinematic attempt to bring the story of Pope Joan to life.&nbsp; In 1972 Norwegian actress <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm0880521\/bio\">Liv Ullman<\/a> played the role in a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0069110\/\">movie<\/a> that is even more forgotten than the legend it purported to chronicle.&nbsp; By the way, would that make the current film &#8220;Pope Joan II&#8221;?&nbsp; Just asking.<\/p>\n<p>Personally, I&#8217;d have no problem with a woman pope. Of course, if you were to ask me, I think there should be woman priests.&nbsp; But nobody&#8217;s asking me. <\/p>\n<p>I guess the biggest problem I would have with a woman pope would be that the word <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pope\">pope<\/a> is latin for papa, or father.&nbsp; So that would just seem kinda weird. And would we call a female parish priest father? It would be so confusing. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Come to think of it, I&#8217;ve never made a big issue of it but, as someone who understands very little,&nbsp;I&#8217;ve&nbsp;often wondered why we call priests &#8220;father&#8221; since in the Gospel of Matthew Jesus is quoted as saying &#8220;Do not call anyone on earth you&nbsp;father. Only one is your father, the One in heaven.&#8221;&nbsp; For an explanation of that one, click <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholic.com\/library\/Call_No_Man_Father.asp\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But I digress.<\/p>\n<p>For the record, the Catholic Church says the legend of St. Joan is bogus, no more real than <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Da_Vinci_Code_(film)\"><em>The Da Vinci Code<\/em><\/a>&nbsp;(which, of course, some people have taken seriously).<\/p>\n<p>One more digression:&nbsp; I never read the&nbsp;novel but I saw the film version of &#8220;The Da Vinci Code.&#8221;&nbsp; To me the plot had holes big enough to drive a&nbsp;Popemobile through.&nbsp; For one thing,&nbsp;if I understood the&nbsp;story correctly (and it&#8217;s always possible I didn&#8217;t particularly since I may have dozed off), wasn&#8217;t the big to-do about&nbsp;the discovery of&nbsp;DNA evidence linked to the bones of&nbsp;Mary&nbsp;Magdalene that supposedly proved that she and Jesus had a baby together.&nbsp;I understand the plot&nbsp;also involved the discovery of ancient documents suggesting such a relationship but, come on,&nbsp;in the age of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/CSI_Crime_Scene_Investigation\">CSI<\/a><\/em> that&#8217;s not the same as DNA. &nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I could see how Mary Magdalene&#8217;s DNA might prove that she had a child and that&nbsp;could be controversial but how would that actually prove anything&nbsp;pertaining to a supposed sexual relationship with Jesus?&nbsp; Wouldn&#8217;t you need Jesus&#8217; DNA for that? I don&#8217;t think Mary Magdalene having a baby would rock the foundation of the Church.&nbsp; I mean someone should have told that albino monk to chill. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Did she or didn&#8217;t she&#8230;exist? 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