{"id":316,"date":"2008-04-14T09:17:00","date_gmt":"2008-04-14T09:17:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/bibleandculture\/2008\/04\/the-debate-dawkins-would-rather-forget.html"},"modified":"2008-04-14T09:17:00","modified_gmt":"2008-04-14T09:17:00","slug":"the-debate-dawkins-would-rather-forget","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/bibleandculture\/2008\/04\/the-debate-dawkins-would-rather-forget.html","title":{"rendered":"The Debate Dawkins would rather Forget"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Rabbi Smuley Boteach (yes, Virginia that&#8217;s his real name&#8211; how appropriate for a teacher) is one of my favorite rabbis.  He is engaged and engaging on a whole host of issues, one of which is the issue of atheism.   He sends me his newsletter and postings several times a week.  Here below is a sample of one.  I&#8217;d encourage you to go to his website and listen. A good time will be had by all<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" width=\"100%\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" height=\"424\" valign=\"center\">\n<table border=\"1\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" width=\"476\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.shmuley.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/by132w.bay132.mail.live.com\/mail\/SafeRedirect.aspx?hm__tg=65.55.137.121\/att\/GetAttachment.aspx&amp;hm__qs=file%3d5bdf553d-5b92-4c14-9e67-e4991b0591ee.gif%26ct%3daW1hZ2UvZ2lm%26name%3dZW1haWwtYmFubmVyLmdpZg_3d_3d%26inline%3d1%26rfc%3d0%26empty%3dFalse%26imgsrc%3dcid%253a818b2658d9ed2da5a6b62cd05774c002&amp;oneredir=1&amp;ip=10.1.106.106&amp;d=d1439&amp;mf=0\" border=\"0\" height=\"117\" width=\"476\" \/><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ffffff\" height=\"200\" valign=\"top\">\n<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"0\" width=\"100%\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.shmuley.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: 0pt none\" alt=\"The debate Richard Dawkins Claims Never Happened. Click here to watch it at Shmuley.com\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shmuley.com\/images\/DawkinsDebateBannerSmall.gif\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Rabbi Shmuley was surprised to learn from a number of fans that his friend,  Richard Dawkins, the world\u2019s most famous atheist, posted a statement on his  website attacking Rabbi Shmuley, and denying ever debating him. The statement on  <a href=\"http:\/\/richarddawkins.net\/\" target=\"_blank\">richarddawkins.net<\/a> reads:  \u201cBoteach organized debates, with himself as chairman, and I sometimes took part  in debates with the outside visitors that he imported, for example Robert  Winston. Boteach was a surprisingly impartial chairman, but he was always just a  chairman, never a debater in any of the debates that I attended.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This is, unfortunately, a particularly bold untruth. The debate, which took  place at St. Catherine\u2019s College, Oxford, on October 23, 1996, attracted  hundreds of students and featured, on the atheist side, Professor Dawkins and  Chemistry Professor Peter Atkins, and on the religion side, Rabbi Shmuley and  Professor Keith Ward, the Oxford University Regius Professor of Divinity. The  Oxford L\u2019Chaim Society (the student organization Rabbi Shmuley founded and  chaired) student president, Josh Wine, was in the moderator\u2019s chair.<\/p>\n<p>Ironically, in a vote at the end of the debate to determine how many students  had changed their minds upon hearing the arguments, the religious side prevailed  and defeated Dawkin\u2019s side, which might account for his selective memory.<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size:130%\">The full two-hour video of debate from 1996 at Oxford  University, along with a <a href=\"http:\/\/shmuley.com\/articles.php?id=627%22\" target=\"_blank\">written-response from Rabbi Shmuley<\/a> is now available at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shmuley.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Shmuley.com<\/a><\/span><br \/><\/em><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rabbi Smuley Boteach (yes, Virginia that&#8217;s his real name&#8211; how appropriate for a teacher) is one of my favorite rabbis. 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