{"id":305,"date":"2008-04-25T16:08:00","date_gmt":"2008-04-25T16:08:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/bibleandculture\/2008\/04\/ehrman-vs-wright-on-the-problem-of-suffering-whose-right.html"},"modified":"2008-04-25T16:08:00","modified_gmt":"2008-04-25T16:08:00","slug":"ehrman-vs-wright-on-the-problem-of-suffering-whose-right","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/bibleandculture\/2008\/04\/ehrman-vs-wright-on-the-problem-of-suffering-whose-right.html","title":{"rendered":"Ehrman vs. Wright on the Problem of Suffering. Whose Right?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My friend and fellow blogger Mark Roberts has just posted the following, which I am copying to you.  Check it out.  BW3<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n<div class=\"ReadMsgBody BorderTop\">\n<div class=\"ExternalClass\">\n<h2 id=\"EC_post-453\"><a title=\"Permanent Link to Excellent Discussion on the Problem of Suffering\" href=\"http:\/\/markdroberts.com\/?p=453\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark\">Excellent  Discussion on the Problem of Suffering<\/a><\/h2>\n<p><b>By Mark D. Roberts<\/b> | Thursday, April 24, 2008 <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/images\/ehrman-bart-5.jpg\" align=\"right\" height=\"270\" hspace=\"20\" vspace=\"5\" width=\"360\" \/>Beliefnet.com is hosting a fine &#8220;blogalogue&#8221; between Bart Ehrman and N.  T. Wright on the problem of suffering. Ehrman, as you may know, has published  the most recent installment in his series that might be called: &#8220;A Popular  Scholar&#8217;s Attempt to Get People to Stop Being Christians.&#8221; This book is:  <em>God&#8217;s Problem: How the Bible Fails to Answer Our Most Important Question\u2013Why  We Suffer<\/em>. I have not read this book yet, but, given what I&#8217;ve read of what  Ehrman has said about it, it certainly doesn&#8217;t break any new ground. But Ehrman  has the attention of the secular media (like NPR), and he&#8217;s an engaging writer  (for a scholar). So <em>God&#8217;s Problem<\/em> will surely sell plenty of copies.  (Photo: Bart Ehrman)<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"N.T. Wright Laity Lodge\" src=\"https:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/images\/wright-n-t-laity-5.jpg\" align=\"right\" height=\"283\" hspace=\"20\" vspace=\"5\" width=\"360\" \/>I can&#8217;t think of anyone I&#8217;d rather have  &#8220;blogaloguing&#8221; with Erhman than N. T. Wright. In this conversation, Ehrman is  way out of his league, theologicially. More importantly, however, Wright&#8217;s  approach to suffering takes seriously the biblical narrative of salvation.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what we have so far in the &#8220;blogalogue&#8221;:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/blogalogue\/2008\/04\/why-suffering-is-gods-problem.html\" target=\"_blank\">Ehrman: How the Problem of Pain Ruined My Faith<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/blogalogue\/2008\/04\/nt-wright-evil-unbelief-and-th.html\" target=\"_blank\">Wright: God&#8217;s Plan to Rescue Us<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/blogalogue\/2008\/04\/thanks-tom-for-a-thoughtful.html\" target=\"_blank\">Ehrman: What About the Actual Suffering?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/blogalogue\/2008\/04\/thanks-bart-for-your-response.html\" target=\"_blank\">Wright: What It Looks Like When God Runs the  World<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p> document.getElementById(&#8220;MsgContainer&#8221;).innerHTML=&#8217;\\x3ch2 id\\x3dEC_post-453\\x3e\\x3ca href\\x3d\\x22http\\x3a\\x2f\\x2fmarkdroberts.com\\x2f\\x3fp\\x3d453\\x22 rel\\x3dbookmark title\\x3d\\x22Permanent Link to Excellent Discussion on the Problem of Suffering\\x22 target\\x3d\\x22_blank\\x22\\x3eExcellent Discussion on the Problem of Suffering\\x3c\\x2fa\\x3e\\x3c\\x2fh2\\x3e\\x0d\\x0a\\x09\\x3cp\\x3e\\x3cb\\x3eBy Mark D. Roberts\\x3c\\x2fb\\x3e \\x7c Thursday, April 24, 2008 \\x3c\\x2fp\\x3e\\x0d\\x0a\\x09\\x09\\x3cdiv class\\x3dEC_postspace2\\x3e\\x0d\\x0a\\x09\\x3c\\x2fdiv\\x3e\\x09\\x0d\\x0a\\x09\\x09\\x09\\x09\\x0d\\x0a\\x09\\x09\\x09\\x09\\x09\\x3cp\\x3e\\x3cimg src\\x3d\\x22http\\x3a\\x2f\\x2fwww.markdroberts.com\\x2fimages\\x2fehrman-bart-5.jpg\\x22 align\\x3dright height\\x3d270 hspace\\x3d20 vspace\\x3d5 width\\x3d360\\x3eBeliefnet.com\\x0d\\x0ais hosting a fine \\x26quot\\x3bblogalogue\\x26quot\\x3b between Bart Ehrman and N. T. Wright on\\x0d\\x0athe problem of suffering. 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