{"id":1306,"date":"2010-12-23T12:46:05","date_gmt":"2010-12-23T12:46:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/bibleandculture\/2010\/12\/a-normal-christian-life--part-nine.html"},"modified":"2010-12-23T12:46:05","modified_gmt":"2010-12-23T12:46:05","slug":"a-normal-christian-life-part-nine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/bibleandculture\/2010\/12\/a-normal-christian-life-part-nine.html","title":{"rendered":"A Normal Christian Life&#8212;- Part Nine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/bibleandculture\/assets_c\/2010\/12\/Wesley-thumb-400x400-20279.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Thumbnail image for Wesley.JPG\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/137\/import\/assets_c\/2010\/12\/Wesley-thumb-400x400-20279-thumb-400x400-20280.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-none\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" \/><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%\"><span>It was, without<br \/>\nquestion, a shock to my system.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>My wife<br \/>\nand I moved to England for my doctoral work in 1977.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>I came as a person on the way to &#8216;full<br \/>\nordination&#8217; in the United Methodist Church in America.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>Now the two churches I had been part of<br \/>\nsince birth, Wesley Memorial UMC in High Point, N.C. and Myers Park UMC in<br \/>\nCharlotte, N.C. were both large churches with very traditional liturgy.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I had been raised a high church Methodist,<br \/>\nwho regularly partook of the creeds, the responsive readings, the Gloria Patri,<br \/>\nthe Doxology, the reading of several Scriptures, Holy Communion, the sermons,<br \/>\nthe prayers of the people,<span>&nbsp; <\/span>the offering,<br \/>\nand of course the singing including both congregation hymn singing and anthems<br \/>\netc. by the choir.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I was used to robed<br \/>\nministers and liturgically rich services.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>When I got to Durham England, I was nearly immediately put on the Durham<br \/>\nand<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Darlington circuits as<br \/>\npreacher,<span>&nbsp; <\/span>but what I found in these<br \/>\nvarious churches was a shock.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>Their<br \/>\nworship services consisted of the &#8216;hymn sandwich&#8217;<span>&nbsp; <\/span>as they put-<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>a hymn, and a prayer, and a hymn, and a Scripture, and a hymn and a<br \/>\nsermon, and a hymn, and an offering, and a hymn.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Did I mention hymns!<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>And we sang lots of verses of lots of hymns (often<br \/>\nto tunes I had never heard before, and some of which I never wish to hear<br \/>\nagain).<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>I love and loved music, having<br \/>\nbeen a musician all my life, but this was like going to a song fest and hoping<br \/>\na worship service broke out.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>I<br \/>\nasked my senior pastor at Elvet Methodist in Durham&#8212;- How come it&#8217;s like<br \/>\nthis?<span>&nbsp; <\/span>He explained in some detail that<br \/>\nMethodists in England had to define their ethos and identity over against the<br \/>\ndominant Church of England, as well as the highly liturgical Catholic Church.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The result was very low-church Protestantism.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I was even told &#8216;Don&#8217;t ask them to recite a<br \/>\ncreed&#8217;<span>&nbsp; <\/span>they will think you are a closet<br \/>\nAnglican or Catholic&#8217;.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>Wow.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>In America by contrast, where there was no<br \/>\nhigh church denomination dominating the religious landscape, Methodists didn&#8217;t<br \/>\nfeel they needed to denude the service of liturgy.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>They could just be themselves as Mr. Wesley<br \/>\nhad encouraged.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Indeed, he had even<br \/>\nencouraged them for years to go to both the Methodist and the Anglican<br \/>\nservices.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>To<br \/>\nask what spiritual formation looks like for Methodist individuals depends on<br \/>\nwhere they are located, and what sort of Methodism they have experienced.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>Methodism in Singapore doesn&#8217;t look the same<br \/>\nas Methodism in India, or in Zimbabwe or in England, or in Estonia or in<br \/>\nAmerica. <span>&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span>I know, because I&#8217;ve been to<br \/>\nall those places and many more where there are Methodists.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>Because of these varieties of Methodist<br \/>\npractices, we must concentrate in this second half of the book<span>&nbsp; <\/span>on things both the Bible and Mr. Wesley<br \/>\nsuggested all good Methodists should do to improve and grow their spiritual<br \/>\nlives.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The right place to start is with<br \/>\nwhat Wesley says about &#8216;the Means of Grace&#8217;.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>What are the means of grace for ordinary, normal Methodists? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%\"><b><span>&nbsp;<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%\"><b><span>WESLEY<br \/>\nON THE MEANS OF GRACE<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%\"><b><span><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/b><span>One of the<br \/>\nquestions John Wesley regularly had to answer during the revival in the 18<sup>th<\/sup><br \/>\ncentury is&#8212; since salvation comes through preaching the Gospel, do we have<br \/>\nany need of, and are there any &#8216;ordinances&#8217;<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>we must follow?<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><span>&nbsp;<\/span>By this question was meant, are there any<br \/>\nmeans of grace ordained by God that Christians are obliged to use and practice<br \/>\nin order to grow in Christ, or do they just need to keep listening to the<br \/>\npreacher, since preaching and hearing was how grace and the new birth came to<br \/>\npeople in the first place?<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>Before<br \/>\nwe answer that question, it is important to note that Wesley believed that<br \/>\npreaching the Word of God is indeed a means of grace. <span>&nbsp;<\/span>He would want to do nothing to minimize<br \/>\nthat.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><span>&nbsp;<\/span>To those worshiping at Bedside Baptist or<br \/>\nPosturpedic Presbyterian or St. Mattress Methodist, which is to say, staying at<br \/>\nhome in bed on Sunday, Wesley exhorted such lazy Christians that while they can<br \/>\ncome in contact with general revelation in all of creation, the one place they<br \/>\ncan most assuredly come in contact with the special revelation of the Gospel is<br \/>\nin church, or in revival meetings, and they dare not neglect the<br \/>\npreaching.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>But what of other means of<br \/>\ngrace?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%\"><span><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>At the beginning of his famous sermon on &#8216;The Means of<br \/>\nGrace&#8217; Wesley rightly cautions about the danger of mistaking &#8216;the means&#8217;<span>&nbsp; <\/span>for &#8216;the ends&#8217;.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>He warns that <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><b><span>&#8220;Some began to mistake the <i>means<\/i><br \/>\nfor the <i>end<\/i>, and to place religion rather in doing those outward works,<br \/>\nthan in a heart renewed after the image of God. They forgot that &#8220;the end<br \/>\nof&#8221; every &#8220;commandment is love, out of a pure heart,&#8221; with<br \/>\n&#8220;faith unfeigned;&#8221; the loving the Lord their God with all their<br \/>\nheart, and their neighbour as themselves; and the being purified from pride,<br \/>\nanger, and evil desire, by a &#8220;faith of the operation of God.&#8221; Others<br \/>\nseemed to imagine, that though religion did not principally consist in these outward<br \/>\nmeans, yet there was something in them wherewith God was well pleased:<br \/>\nsomething that would still make them acceptable in his sight, though they were<br \/>\nnot exact in the weightier matters of the law, in justice, mercy, and the love<br \/>\nof God.&#8221; <\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>What<br \/>\nWesley is warning against in this paragraph is mere formalism, a sort of faith<br \/>\nthat thinks, &#8216;if I just participate in the ordinances, if I just go to church,<br \/>\nif I just take the sacraments,<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I am a<br \/>\ngood Christian and will be saved&#8217;.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>That<br \/>\nwould be mistaking the means for the ends, which is of course the grace and<br \/>\nsalvation of God.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>John Wesley did not believe<br \/>\nthat even the sacrament of baptism automatically conveyed grace to the<br \/>\nrecipient regardless of his spiritual state, but he did firmly believe they did<br \/>\nso for those who were open to receiving the grace of God.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Wesley warns not merely against mere<br \/>\nformalism, but also against those who think we need no forms or liturgy at all<br \/>\nto worship God.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The abuse of the means<br \/>\nof grace does not rule out their proper use, was Wesley&#8217;s view.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>But<br \/>\nwhat exactly does Wesley mean by, and include in the &#8216;means of grace&#8217;?<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>This may come as something of a surprise,<br \/>\neven to some Methodists today.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>First,<br \/>\nthe definition<b> <\/b>Wesley insists on is<br \/>\nthis: <b><span>&nbsp;<\/span>&#8220;By &#8220;means of grace&#8221; I understand<br \/>\noutward signs, words, or actions, ordained of God, and appointed for this end,<br \/>\nto be the ordinary channels whereby he might convey to men, preventing,<br \/>\njustifying, or sanctifying grace.&#8221;<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/b>He<br \/>\ndoes not deny there are other, extraordinary channels of grace, but here he is<br \/>\nreferring to the ordinary ones, the very ones that normal Christians have a<br \/>\nchance to encounter normally, even on a day by day basis. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%\"><span><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>If you were expecting Wesley to suddenly break forth into<br \/>\na long harangue about baptism and the Lord&#8217;s Supper,<span>&nbsp; <\/span>you will be surprised to learn that the first<br \/>\nwords out of his mouth are <b>&#8220;The chief of<br \/>\nthese means are prayer, whether in secret or with the great congregation;<br \/>\nsearching the Scriptures (which implies reading, hearing, and meditating<br \/>\nthereon); and receiving the Lord&#8217;s Supper, eating bread and drinking wine in<br \/>\nremembrance of Him: And these we believe to be ordained of God, as the ordinary<br \/>\nchannels of conveying his grace to the souls of men.&#8221;<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 150%\"><b><span><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/b><span>In fact, Wesley<br \/>\nis not going to talk about baptism at all in this context!<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Why not? Because it is a one time and one<br \/>\ntime only ordinance per person, and almost every single person Wesley addressed<br \/>\nin England, whether churched or not, had at least be christened as an infant and<br \/>\nlisted in a church registry. If you have already been baptized, this cannot be<br \/>\na means of grace for you going forward or thereafter. <span>&nbsp;<\/span><span>&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>Indeed,<br \/>\nthe Anglicans considered the whole country their parish, and you were on their<br \/>\ncontact lists even if you were an ardent Baptist.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>I never will forget how my wife and I<br \/>\nregularly got the Anglican parish letters and announcements in the mail, quite<br \/>\nunsolicited and sent to the caretakers house at Elvet Methodist Church.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They were claiming us as part of their parish<br \/>\nflock, even if we only went to the Methodist Church.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>That&#8217;s the way it is when you have an<br \/>\nofficial State Church in various European countries.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>Wesley then is going to discuss &#8216;means of<br \/>\ngrace&#8217; from the perspective of an audience for whom baptism could not or no<br \/>\nlonger be a means of grace in the future. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span><span>&nbsp;<\/span>Notice the three means of grace he expects his<br \/>\naudience to participate in regularly: 1) prayer both individual and collective<br \/>\nprayer;<span>&nbsp; <\/span>2) searching the Scriptures, or<br \/>\nas we might call it Bible study and devotional reading of the Bible, and<br \/>\nfinally; 3) &#8216;constant&#8217; communion.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Dealing<br \/>\nwith the three means of grace Wesley mentions in this sermon is going to take<br \/>\nsome time, so we will be treating all three in an introductory way here and prayer<br \/>\nin some detail in this chapter, and in subsequent chapters we will deal with<br \/>\nsearching the Scriptures and Communion in more detail.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>Lest<br \/>\nsomeone take a magical view of any of these three means he stresses once more, <b>&#8220;Whosoever, therefore, imagines there is<br \/>\nany intrinsic power in any means whatsoever, does greatly err, not knowing the<br \/>\nScriptures, neither the power of God. We know that there is no inherent power<br \/>\nin the words that are spoken in prayer, in the letter of Scripture read, the<br \/>\nsound thereof heard, or the bread and wine received in the Lord&#8217;s Supper; but<br \/>\nthat it is God alone who is the Giver of every good gift, the Author of all<br \/>\ngrace; that the whole power is of him, whereby, through any of these, there is<br \/>\nany blessing conveyed to our soul. We know, likewise, that he is able to give<br \/>\nthe same grace, though there were no means on the face of the earth.&#8221;<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/b><span>&nbsp;<\/span>Here of course Wesley is arguing against<br \/>\nCatholic theology in particular when it comes to the Lord&#8217;s Supper.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The grace and power lies in God, not in the<br \/>\nelements or the activities <i>in themselves.<br \/>\n<\/i><span>&nbsp;<\/span>Thus a magical view of what the<br \/>\n&#8216;means&#8217; can accomplish apart<span>&nbsp; <\/span>from a<br \/>\nreceptive heart, a heart of faith, is avoided. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>Furthermore,<br \/>\nWesley wants to stress that partaking in these means is not meritorious. It<br \/>\ndoes not earn one brownie points in heaven, much less earn one salvation or<br \/>\nyears off of purgatory.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Wesley adds this<b>,<span>&nbsp; <\/span>&#8220;The<br \/>\nuse of all means whatever will never atone for one sin; that it is the blood of<br \/>\nChrist alone, whereby any sinner can be reconciled to God; there being no other<br \/>\npropitiation for our sins, no other fountain for sin and uncleanness. Every believer<br \/>\nin Christ is deeply convinced that there is no merit but in Him; that there is<br \/>\nno merit in any of his own works; not in uttering the prayer, or searching the<br \/>\nScripture, or hearing the word of God, or eating of that bread and drinking of<br \/>\nthat cup. So that if no more be intended by the expression some have used,<br \/>\n&#8220;Christ is the only means of grace,&#8221; than this, &#8212; that He is the<br \/>\nonly meritorious cause of it, it cannot be gainsayed by any who know the grace<br \/>\nof God.&#8221;<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>This<br \/>\nis a salutary warning even for us today, for the temptation is to believe that<br \/>\n&#8216;if I just engage in these spiritual practices and this much prayer and this<br \/>\nmuch church attendance, God will have to reward me for this and bless me for<br \/>\nthis.&#8217;<span>&nbsp; <\/span>A modern sort of example of this<br \/>\nsort of misguided thinking is the &#8216;Prayer of Jabez&#8217; sort of approach to things,<br \/>\nwhereby if one simply follows that prayer, God is somehow forced or compelled<br \/>\nto &#8216;enlarge one&#8217;s territory&#8217; make one prosperous and so on.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>This sort of magical view, even of prayer is<br \/>\nbeing avoided by Wesley.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>You can pray<br \/>\nuntil you are blue in the face and with all sincerity, but if it is not God&#8217;s<br \/>\nwill to do X, Y, or Z that you are pleading for,<span>&nbsp; <\/span>it isn&#8217;t going to happen just because you<br \/>\nrecited some Biblical prayer with all your heart.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>That approach is what my old pastor called<br \/>\n&#8216;rabbits foot religion&#8217; and it is not the religion Wesley urges his Methodists<br \/>\nto practice to improve their Christian life.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>Wesley<br \/>\nis also writing against those truly low church Protestants who kept saying all<br \/>\nyou have to do is believe to be saved, so skip all this stuff about practicing<br \/>\nthe means of grace.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Wesley&#8217;s answer<br \/>\nis&#8212; <b>&#8220;If you say, &#8220;Believe, and<br \/>\nthou shalt be saved!&#8221; He answers, &#8220;True; but how shall I<br \/>\nbelieve?&#8221; You reply, &#8220;Wait upon God.&#8221; &#8220;Well; but how am I<br \/>\nto wait? In the means of grace, or out of them? Am I to wait for the grace of<br \/>\nGod which bringeth salvation, by using these means, or by laying them<br \/>\naside?&#8221;<\/b> <span>&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>That<br \/>\nphrase &#8216;wait actively&#8217; is in fact a key phrase for understanding Wesley&#8217;s view<br \/>\nabout how Methodists should practice their religion and grow in grace. <span>&nbsp;<\/span>We should participate in the normal means of<br \/>\ngrace as often as we have time to do so, is Wesley&#8217;s basic view.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Wesley first then provides several telling<br \/>\nexamples from the teaching of Jesus to make clear that we should always pray<br \/>\nand never give up praying. <span>&nbsp;<\/span>Indeed,<br \/>\nChrist commanded us to pray saying <b>&#8220;&#8221;Ask,<br \/>\nand it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be<br \/>\nopened unto you: For everyone that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh<br \/>\nfindeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.&#8221; (Matt. 7:7, 8) Here<br \/>\nwe are in the plainest manner directed to ask, in order to, or as a means of,<br \/>\nreceiving; to seek, in order to find, the grace of God, the pearl of great<br \/>\nprice; and to knock, to continue asking and seeking, if we would enter into his<br \/>\nkingdom.&#8221; <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>Here<br \/>\nit will be wise to pause for a moment and meditate on why we pray, both<br \/>\naccording to the Bible, and according to Wesley.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Firstly we do not pray to inform God of<br \/>\nsomething he does not know.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Anyone who<br \/>\nknows their Bible knows that God is all-seeing and all-knowing.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Prayer then cannot be a matter of reminding a<br \/>\ndeity that is so old he has senior moments of something he forgot, or<br \/>\nbrowbeating a truculent and reluctant deity to do something he was otherwise<br \/>\nnot planning on doing.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>These sorts of<br \/>\nviews of prayer did characterize some ancient pagans, but not<span>&nbsp; <\/span>God&#8217;s people at their wisest and best. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>Why<br \/>\nthen pray besides the obvious fact that God has commanded it?<span>&nbsp; <\/span><span>&nbsp;<\/span>The<br \/>\nanswer is that God uses prayer to work out his will in the world, and through<br \/>\nprayer it is <b>WE <\/b>who become informed<br \/>\nabout what we do not know or see, and we become God&#8217;s agents of redemption,<br \/>\nhealing, and hope in the world.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>But this<br \/>\nis not all, for what I have just been talking about is prayers of intercession<br \/>\nor petition.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Of course there are other<br \/>\nsorts of prayers as well that God uses to shape our own spiritual lives&#8212;-<br \/>\nprayers of praise, and thanksgiving and prayers of repentance and<br \/>\nlamentation.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>And of course it also true<br \/>\nthat a function of prayer is to not merely better inform us about God&#8217;s will,<br \/>\nbut to actually draw us closer to God himself.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>People who love each other wholeheartedly are always talking to one<br \/>\nanother.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They are in ongoing living<br \/>\nrelationship and conversation with one another, and so it should be between us<br \/>\nand God. The question is&#8212; Are we listening to God when we pray, rather than<br \/>\njust talking all the time? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>Wesley<br \/>\nstresses that God responds to both corporate and private prayer. In regard to<br \/>\nthe latter, Wesley urges <b>&#8220;A direction,<br \/>\nequally full and express, to wait for the blessings of God in private prayer,<br \/>\ntogether with a positive promise, that, by this means, we shall obtain the<br \/>\nrequest of our lips, he hath given us in those well-known words: &#8220;Enter<br \/>\ninto thy closet, and, when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is<br \/>\nin secret; and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee<br \/>\nopenly.&#8221; (Matt. 6:6)<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>One<br \/>\nof the most interesting things Wesley goes on to point out, is that Jesus is<br \/>\nnot talking merely about the prayers of born again Christians here. <span>&nbsp;<\/span>Indeed, there were <i>none <\/i>when Jesus said this! <span>&nbsp;<\/span>He<br \/>\nis simply talking about people asking in sincere trust for God&#8217;s help, and<br \/>\nJesus says clearly that God hears and responds to such prayers. Were this not<br \/>\nthe case, there would be no point for unbelievers to ever pray a sincere<br \/>\nprayer.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent: 0.5in;line-height: 150%\"><span>Sometime<br \/>\nago, a not very wise but very public TV minister was asked if God hears the<br \/>\nprayers of non-Christians, of say agnostics or Muslims or Jews or Hindus or Buddhists<br \/>\nand his curt answer was an emphatic no.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>The problem with this is that Jesus himself says otherwise, <i>so long as the prayer is directed to the<br \/>\nright deity, the God of the Bible.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/i>Wesley<br \/>\nmakes mincemeat of such a bad theology of prayer citing James 1.5 and 4.2<br \/>\nsaying, <b>&#8220;The gross, blasphemous<br \/>\nabsurdity of supposing <i>faith<\/i>, in this place, to be taken in the full<br \/>\nChristian meaning, appears hence: It is supposing the Holy Ghost to direct a<br \/>\nman who knows he has not faith (which is here termed <i>wisdom<\/i>), to ask it<br \/>\nof God, with a positive promise that &#8220;it shall be given him;&#8221; and<br \/>\nthen immediately to subjoin, that it shall not be given him, unless he have it<br \/>\nbefore he asks for it! <span>&nbsp;<\/span>But who can bear<br \/>\nsuch a supposition?&#8221;<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It was, without question, a shock to my system.&nbsp; My wife and I moved to England for my doctoral work in 1977.&nbsp;&nbsp; I came as a person on the way to &#8216;full ordination&#8217; in the United Methodist Church in America.&nbsp;&nbsp; Now the two churches I had been part of since birth, Wesley Memorial UMC in&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":199,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1306","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>A Normal Christian Life- Part Nine - The Bible and Culture<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/bibleandculture\/2010\/12\/a-normal-christian-life-part-nine.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"A Normal Christian Life- Part Nine - The Bible and Culture\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"It was, without question, a shock to my system.&nbsp; 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