{"id":1270,"date":"2010-11-30T09:19:32","date_gmt":"2010-11-30T09:19:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/bibleandculture\/2010\/11\/on-the-richter-scale--sandy-richter-in-the-news.html"},"modified":"2010-11-30T09:19:32","modified_gmt":"2010-11-30T09:19:32","slug":"on-the-richter-scale-sandy-richter-in-the-news","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/bibleandculture\/2010\/11\/on-the-richter-scale-sandy-richter-in-the-news.html","title":{"rendered":"On the Richter Scale&#8212;- Sandy Richter in the News"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/bibleandculture\/richter.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"richter.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/137\/import\/assets_c\/2010\/11\/richter-thumb-400x502-19773.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-none\" width=\"400\" height=\"502\" \/><\/a><\/span> <\/p>\n<div>Well it isn&#8217;t the cover of the Rolling Stone, but I am proud to say the newspaper in Jackson Ms. was smart enough to interview our friend and colleague Sandy Richter, who taught for us for many years (still does online, I believe) and is now full time at Wesley Biblical in Jackson.&nbsp;&nbsp; Here the Q+A part of a recent interview they did with her. <\/p>\n<p><b>What is the message we&#8217;re not hearing from the Old Testament?<\/b><br \/>\nThe message of a redemptive God, a merciful loving deity who is<br \/>\nextending himself as far as he can to redeem humanity. We tend to hear<br \/>\nthat message from the New Testament, but we overlook it in the old. In<br \/>\nfact, I&#8217;m often asked the question when I teach in lay circles: &#8220;Why is<br \/>\nit that the God of the New Testament is the God of mercy, and the God of<br \/>\nthe Old Testament is the God of judgment?&#8221; I&#8217;m always partly<br \/>\nentertained and partly aghast at that question, because I see a God who<br \/>\nhas been working since the foundation of the world to redeem humanity<br \/>\nmarching all the way through the Old Testament. And I typically have to<br \/>\nremind the church that the Second Coming is all about judgment, so don&#8217;t<br \/>\nthink you&#8217;ve missed out on judgment just because you&#8217;ve claimed the New<br \/>\nTestament and not the Old.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>Do you think God communicates in the Old Testament differently from the way he communicates in the New?<\/b><br \/>\nNo, but I think the audience is very different&#8211;and that is the great<br \/>\nchallenge. In &#8230; &#8220;The Epic of Eden,&#8221; that actually is my exact quest:<br \/>\nto help the New Testament Christian understand the audience of the Old<br \/>\nTestament message, so that they can hear it as it was intended. The Old<br \/>\nTestament truly is long long ago and far far away. Just reaching back to<br \/>\nAbraham, we&#8217;re reaching back &#8230; to 2,000 BC. &#8230; So this is ancient<br \/>\nancient history, and it&#8217;s an entirely different economy an entirely<br \/>\ndifferent social structure.<\/p>\n<p>These folks are nomadic pastoralists who are very wealthy, but live in<br \/>\nan ephemeral society&#8211;meaning that they&#8217;re changing rotations regularly,<br \/>\nthat their bread and butter is raising sheep and goats, and their<br \/>\nlifestyle is following the seasonal pasturage of their flocks. This is<br \/>\nradically different from 20th-century westerners. Radical isn&#8217;t even a<br \/>\nstrong enough word.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; [T]hen, as we march through the tribal lineage of ancient Israel,<br \/>\nwe&#8217;re introduced to a very patriarchal tribal culture in which kinship<br \/>\nties are everything, &#8230; this very male, very clan-based society. Then<br \/>\nwe move into the monarchy, which is &#8230; centralized.<\/p>\n<p>All this to say it&#8217;s just a very different audience, and Israel itself<br \/>\nis geographically very different and economically very different. So all<br \/>\nof this makes for a message that sounds quite foreign to the modern<br \/>\nreader, whereas when you move into the New Testament, Hellenism has<br \/>\nalready blanketed the Middle East, and Jesus is at least at some point<br \/>\nspeaking Greek. This is a more urban environment, and people have<br \/>\nbusinesses and trade; it sounds more familiar. So I think that is the<br \/>\nessence of the change. I don&#8217;t think the message shifts that much, but I<br \/>\nthink the audience does.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>Are there ways we resemble the audience of the Old Testament more than the New?<\/b><br \/>\nI think we resemble both audiences in that the needs of the human<br \/>\nheart haven&#8217;t changed much. Just as in Abraham&#8217;s day, and in Peter and<br \/>\nPaul&#8217;s day, the average citizen is worried about the next meal, the next<br \/>\nmortgage payment, how their children are going to turn out and this<br \/>\neternal ache in their souls. I would say that is common to the Old<br \/>\nTestament audience, New Testament audience, and contemporary audience.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; I love following the stories of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and<br \/>\nwatching them stumble through real life, bumping into their God and his<br \/>\nexpectations, messing up on those expectations, trying again. It<br \/>\ncomforts me to see that David was a bad parent, and still, the kingdom<br \/>\nsurvived.<\/p>\n<p>So I think sometimes the details of daily life are more visible in the<br \/>\nOld Testament, and so that would be a point of connection for a<br \/>\ncontemporary reader. What I wind up telling my students all the time is<br \/>\nthat the goal of great interpretation&#8211;and, therefore, great preaching&#8211;is<br \/>\nfor the interpreter to be able to get themselves back into the shoes of<br \/>\nthe folks whose stories are being told.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m always challenging my students to think about these characters in<br \/>\nthe Bible, be they Old or New Testament, as real people who lived in<br \/>\nreal places and had exercised real faith. As soon as these folks become<br \/>\nivory-tower, pedestal icons, their struggles become irrelevant to us,<br \/>\nand their stories become distant. &#8230; I&#8217;m always trying to bridge that<br \/>\ngap by reintroducing historical detail and anthropological detail and<br \/>\ntalking about real societal structure and the real civic laws that<br \/>\nstructured their everyday lives: what they ate, how they farmed, that<br \/>\nsort of thing.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>What is something that most people don&#8217;t know about the Old Testament?<\/b><br \/>\nI would say the structure of their society. I actually open up my<br \/>\nintroduction to Old Testament with a lecture about what it means to be a<br \/>\ntribal society. One of the banes of biblical interpretation is<br \/>\nsomething the missiologists call ethnocentrism, where we, the reader,<br \/>\nassume that the folks in the Bible lived just like us. So we read their<br \/>\nlife interactions as though they were situated in an upper-class little<br \/>\nsuburb dangling off Madison Avenue and Highland Parks Colony. We miss<br \/>\nhalf the message.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; If you&#8217;re thinking American Indians or the Arab factions you see<br \/>\nthrowing rocks at each other on the television screen&#8211;that&#8217;s tribal<br \/>\nsociety. And that&#8217;s what Israel was, and God chose to reveal himself in<br \/>\nspace and time to a tribal culture, and so he adapted to that culture.<br \/>\nAnd if we&#8217;re going to understand the message of the Bible, we&#8217;re going<br \/>\nto have to do our best to get back inside that culture to do proper<br \/>\ninterpretation and get around the message in real life.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>How can we can gain a better understanding of life in a tribal culture?<\/b><br \/>\n[L]et me make it very clear that I&#8217;m not asking Christians to become<br \/>\ntribal. The culture in which the story of redemption is communicated<br \/>\nshifts regularly. We start off with tribal nomads, we move to a<br \/>\nmonarchy, we move to an exiled province, and then we move to the<br \/>\nHellenized, Romanized culture of the New Testament. So we&#8217;re not about<br \/>\ncanonizing their culture; we&#8217;re just about understanding their culture.<\/p>\n<p>I always wind up with audiences saying &#8220;Oh, so we should mimic the way<br \/>\nthey structure their economy, or the way they blessed their children.&#8221;<br \/>\nI&#8217;m like no, no, no&#8211;you cannot become a pastoral nomad. You can&#8217;t do<br \/>\nthat. (laughs) Not in today&#8217;s economy. But you need to understand it.<\/p>\n<p>[T]he whole first chapter of &#8230; &#8220;Epic of Eden,&#8221; is about tribal culture<br \/>\nand what it means to be patriarchal &#8230; and how this value system<br \/>\nshaped all of Israel&#8217;s history, even into the New Testament, so that<br \/>\nwhen Jesus names God as Father, he&#8217;s actually operating out of a<br \/>\npatriarchal mindset. And when he speaks about his father&#8217;s house, in<br \/>\nJohn 14:2, he&#8217;s talking about the family compound. And when he speaks of<br \/>\nhaving come as the firstborn to share his inheritance with us, this is<br \/>\nall tribal law&#8211;he has some very specific cargo that he&#8217;s trying to<br \/>\ncommunicate to us. So our job is &#8230; to do our best to understand it so<br \/>\nwe can get a handle on the message.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>Is understanding the context of the Old Testament essential to understanding the meaning of what Jesus taught?<\/b><br \/>\nI certainly believe with all the campus ministries and Four<br \/>\nSpiritual Laws and tracts &#8230; the simplest presentation of the Gospel<br \/>\nmessage can bring someone into the Kingdom&#8211;but &#8230; that is just the tip<br \/>\nof the iceberg. Who Jesus was, the message he came to bring, the promise<br \/>\nhe came to fulfill, the lineage that he comes as the final<br \/>\nrepresentative&#8211;all of these things are Old Testament messages.<\/p>\n<p>I often will joke with my students that if you want to, you can listen<br \/>\nto your favorite album on a cheap, one-speaker AM radio, or you can<br \/>\nlisten to it on Dolby surround sound. Make your choice. You can have one<br \/>\nthree-step presentation of the Roman Road, or you can come to realize<br \/>\nthat the last Adam of 1 Corinthians is the typological representation of<br \/>\nthe first Adam that stood in the Garden, and that the reason Jesus<br \/>\nneeds to be tempted by Satan in the wilderness is because the first Adam<br \/>\nwas tempted by Satan; the first Adam failed the test, and the second<br \/>\nAdam didn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>When Jesus stands on the mountain and declares a new law, he&#8217;s not<br \/>\ncoming up with a new idea&#8211;he&#8217;s standing on the mountain like Moses did<br \/>\nand declaring to a new people, &#8220;I am the new lawgiver.&#8221; When he breaks<br \/>\nhis bread at communion meal, he calls himself the new Passover and tells<br \/>\nhis people, &#8220;I&#8217;ll put my blood on the lintels of your house and the<br \/>\ndeath angel will pass over.&#8221; All of these messages are as old as the<br \/>\nhills. We truncate them into this one final expression, and I think it<br \/>\ncheapens the message.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>Do Old Testament Prophets have something to teach us that is not just a precursor to the coming of Jesus?<\/b><br \/>\nOh, yes, indeed. The Prophets actually spent most of their time<br \/>\nconfronting social injustice that specifically breached God&#8217;s covenant<br \/>\nlaw. The role of the prophet, primarily, was to come to the people and<br \/>\nto the king and to say to them, &#8220;God has given you this law by which you<br \/>\nare required to structure your lives, and you&#8217;re ignoring that law &#8230;<br \/>\nso I&#8217;m going to stand in the public square and announce how you are<br \/>\nignoring and breaching that law.&#8221; I think our culture could definitely<br \/>\nstand a prophet taking his position in the public square and pointing<br \/>\nout our compromise to God&#8217;s calling.<\/p>\n<p>And Hosea and Amos &#8230; what they&#8217;re shouting at Jeroboam II is that<br \/>\nyou&#8217;re wealthy and you&#8217;re politically secure, and you&#8217;re using your<br \/>\nwealth and your political security to abuse and oppress the poor. You<br \/>\nare busy decorating your house with ivory while the widow is starving in<br \/>\nthe streets, leaving her there to die. You have folks like Isaiah<br \/>\nstanding up to the kings and saying: &#8220;You&#8217;re busy plotting out your<br \/>\nentire national agenda without any attention to the lordship of Yahweh,<br \/>\nof God, in your nation&#8217;s life. I&#8217;m challenging you to pay attention to<br \/>\nhis lordship before you make your national strategy. Pay attention.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>All of these messages I think are quite contemporary.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Well it isn&#8217;t the cover of the Rolling Stone, but I am proud to say the newspaper in Jackson Ms. was smart enough to interview our friend and colleague Sandy Richter, who taught for us for many years (still does online, I believe) and is now full time at Wesley Biblical in Jackson.&nbsp;&nbsp; Here the&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":199,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1270","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>On the Richter Scale- Sandy Richter in the News - The Bible and Culture<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/bibleandculture\/2010\/11\/on-the-richter-scale-sandy-richter-in-the-news.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"On the Richter Scale- Sandy Richter in the News - The Bible and Culture\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Well it isn&#8217;t the cover of the Rolling Stone, but I am proud to say the newspaper in Jackson Ms. was smart enough to interview our friend and colleague Sandy Richter, who taught for us for many years (still does online, I believe) and is now full time at Wesley Biblical in Jackson.&nbsp;&nbsp; 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