{"id":443,"date":"2007-08-27T10:45:00","date_gmt":"2007-08-27T10:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/beyondblue\/2007\/08\/when-selfhelp-isnt-helpful.html"},"modified":"2007-08-27T10:45:00","modified_gmt":"2007-08-27T10:45:00","slug":"when-selfhelp-isnt-helpful","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/beyondblue\/2007\/08\/when-selfhelp-isnt-helpful.html","title":{"rendered":"When Self-Help Isn&#8217;t Helpful"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I was relieved to know Jane Chin, Ph.D., of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chinspirations.com\/\">Chinspirations.com<\/a> agrees with my doctor that persons who are severely depressed should stay away from self-help books.<br \/>\nOn the message board on my post &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/beyondblue\/2007\/06\/what-the-secret-can-and-cant-d.html\">What the Secret Can and Can\u2019t Do For Depression<\/a>,&#8221; (where I compare the philosophies of positive psychology and <a href=\"http:\/\/thesecret.tv\/\">The Secret-esque law of attraction<\/a>), Dr. Chin writes this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Interesting that your doc suggested that you stay away from all that positive stuff until you&#8217;re in the &#8220;mild to moderate&#8221; zone. I agree completely (and used to have a shelf full of positive thinking stuff).<br \/>\nIn the moderate severe to severe depressive state, something in the other &#8220;extreme&#8221; along the spectrum can have the opposite effect, even reinforcing the belief that &#8220;this is hopeless, I&#8217;ll never get there, I don&#8217;t relate remotely to what those people are writing about!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nIn the past I&#8217;ve noted a couple of instances where self-help books in depression therapy were in the news:<br \/>\n&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.chinspirations.com\/mhsourcepage\/?p=112\">Self-Help Books Not As Helpful?<\/a>&#8221; and &#8220;<a href=\"\/\/www.chinspirations.com\/mhsourcepage\/?p=73\">Read This Book and Call Me in a Week<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\n(note the English docs were specific about patients being mild to moderately depressed as the target patient population)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Other readers felt that way too. Reader Nancy Orbe wrote this (<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/beyondblue\/2007\/06\/what-the-secret-can-and-cant-d.html\">on the same message board<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I was so relieved to find this site. I&#8217;ve tried to explain to people for years that neither my Master&#8217;s Degree in Psychology nor all the self-help\/spiritual books I&#8217;ve devoured have done anyting for me. In fact, I read in a soul-oriented book last year that it is often best to stop reading altogether to see what the soul brings forth. I have been doing this since the new year. Believe it or not I found the fix-it mentality was constantly pressuring me to be someone different, i.e. better than I am. Not listening to my moods, inner voice, etc. put me in a constant state of disconnect which was even more desperate feeling. These days, I try to tell the truth to the right people, and accept myself huge flaws and all. I try to be grateful for what I can do, even if others think I should do more. I am happy that I am deep, soulful, Passionate, creative and a hard worker.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was relieved to know Jane Chin, Ph.D., of Chinspirations.com agrees with my doctor that persons who are severely depressed should stay away from self-help books. 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