{"id":1611,"date":"2009-07-24T16:19:26","date_gmt":"2009-07-24T16:19:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/astrologicalmusings\/2009\/07\/epidemiologists-slams-the-swin.html"},"modified":"2009-07-24T16:19:26","modified_gmt":"2009-07-24T16:19:26","slug":"epidemiologists-slams-the-swin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/astrologicalmusings\/2009\/07\/epidemiologists-slams-the-swin.html","title":{"rendered":"Epidemiologists slams the swine flu fearmongering"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Following up on my <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/astrologicalmusings\/2009\/07\/conspiracy-corner-swine-flu-hy.html\">&#8220;Conspiracy Corner&#8221; post<\/a> from last week, an interview on the Spiegel Online website with Tom Jefferson shows that it&#8217;s not just conspiracy nuts that are spectacle of the latest attempt to frighten humans around the world. &nbsp;Dr. Jefferson is associated with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/15121319\">Cochranes Vaccine Field<\/a>, an organization based in Italy which was founded to facilitate the gathering of evidence on vaccines and their effects so it appears he knows what he&#8217;s talking about.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The inception of this latest Swine Flu hysteria came at the beginning of the conjunction of Chiron (healing) to Neptune (illusion), so there are some astrological correlations here. &nbsp;But beyond that, I believe that it&#8217;s important to open the curtain and reveal the truth whenever possible; hence my fascination with this topic.<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Here&#8217;s an excerpt of the interview, read the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.spiegel.de\/international\/world\/0,1518,637119,00.html\">whole thing here.&nbsp;<\/a><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<p><b>SPIEGEL:<\/b> Do you consider the swine flu to be particularly<br \/>\nworrisome?<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><b>Jefferson<\/b> <b>:<\/b> It&#8217;s true that influenza viruses are<br \/>\nunpredictable, so it does call for a certain degree of caution. But one of the<br \/>\nextraordinary features of this influenza &#8212; and the whole influenza saga &#8212; is<br \/>\nthat there are some people who make predictions year after year, and they get<br \/>\nworse and worse. None of them so far have come about, and these people are still<br \/>\nthere making these predictions. For example, what happened with the bird flu,<br \/>\nwhich was supposed to kill us all? Nothing. But that doesn&#8217;t stop these people<br \/>\nfrom always making their predictions. Sometimes you get the feeling that there<br \/>\nis a whole industry almost waiting for a pandemic to occur.<\/p>\n<p><b>SPIEGEL:<\/b> Who do you mean? The World Health Organization (WHO)?<\/p>\n<p><b>Jefferson:<\/b> The WHO and public health officials, virologists and the<br \/>\npharmaceutical companies. They&#8217;ve built this machine around the impending<br \/>\npandemic. And there&#8217;s a lot of money involved, and influence, and careers, and<br \/>\nentire institutions! And all it took was one of these influenza viruses to<br \/>\nmutate to start the machine grinding. <\/p>\n<p><b>SPIEGEL:<\/b> On your Italian homepage, there is a &#8220;pandemic countdown&#8221;<br \/>\nthat expires on April 1. Don&#8217;t you think the situation calls for just a bit more<br \/>\nseriousness?<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"spBoxHeadline\" style=\"margin-top: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-bottom: 0.75em;margin-left: 0px;border-top-width: 0px;border-right-width: 0px;border-bottom-width: 0px;border-left-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-color: initial;padding-top: 0px;padding-right: 0px;padding-bottom: 0px;padding-left: 0px;font-size: 1.25em;font-weight: normal\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 13px\"><b>Jefferson:<\/b>&nbsp;I&#8217;m just using it ironically to expose the false certainty that we are fed. Will one-third of the world&#8217;s population get swine flu? Nobody can say for sure right now. For now, at least, I don&#8217;t really see any fundamental difference, no difference in the definition between this and a normal flu epidemic. Swine flu could have even stayed unnoticed if it had been caused by some unknown virus rather than an influenza virus.&lt;<br \/>\n&#8220;&gt;<b>Jefferson:<\/b> I&#8217;m just using it istayed unnoticed if it had been<br \/>\ncaused by some unknown virus rather than an influenza virus.<\/span><\/h4>\n<\/p>\n<p><b>SPIEGEL:<\/b> Do you think the WHO declared a pandemic prematurely?<\/p>\n<p><b>Jefferson:<\/b> Don&#8217;t you think there&#8217;s something noteworthy about the fact<br \/>\nthat the WHO has changed its definition of pandemic? The old definition was a<br \/>\nnew virus, which went around quickly, for which you didn&#8217;t have immunity, and<br \/>\nwhich created a high morbidity and mortality rate. Now the last two have been<br \/>\ndropped, and that&#8217;s how swine flu has been categorized as a pandemic. <\/p>\n<p><b>SPIEGEL:<\/b> But, year after year, 10,000-30,000 people in Germany alone<br \/>\ndie from influenza. In the Western world, influenza is the most deadly<br \/>\ninfectious disease there is.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jefferson:<\/b> Hold on! These figures are nothing more than estimates.<br \/>\nMore than anything, you have to distinguish between an influenza-like illness<br \/>\nand a genuine flu, the real influenza. Both of them have the same symptoms: a<br \/>\nsudden high fever, a sore throat, coughing, rheumatic pain in the back and legs,<br \/>\npossible bronchitis and pneumonia. But real flues, real influenzas are only<br \/>\ncaused by influenza viruses, while there are more than 200 different viruses<br \/>\nthat cause influenza-like illness. When it comes to figures related to so-called<br \/>\nflu deaths, you always get other causes of death caused by other viruses mixed<br \/>\nin. Now, in the case of elderly people who die of pneumonia, nobody would do a<br \/>\npostmortem to figure out if it was really an influenza virus that killed them.<br \/>\nApproximately 7 percent of influenza-like illness cases are caused by influenza<br \/>\nviruses. It&#8217;s a very small percentage. What I know is that real influenza is<br \/>\nsystematically overestimated.<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Following up on my &#8220;Conspiracy Corner&#8221; post from last week, an interview on the Spiegel Online website with Tom Jefferson shows that it&#8217;s not just conspiracy nuts that are spectacle of the latest attempt to frighten humans around the world. &nbsp;Dr. Jefferson is associated with Cochranes Vaccine Field, an organization based in Italy which was&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":328,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1611","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-conspiracy","category-healing"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Epidemiologists slams the swine flu fearmongering - Astrological Musings<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/astrologicalmusings\/2009\/07\/epidemiologists-slams-the-swin.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Epidemiologists slams the swine flu fearmongering - Astrological Musings\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Following up on my &#8220;Conspiracy Corner&#8221; 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