{"id":976,"date":"2011-05-20T22:48:48","date_gmt":"2011-05-21T02:48:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/?p=976"},"modified":"2011-05-22T15:58:32","modified_gmt":"2011-05-22T19:58:32","slug":"darth-vader-luke-skywalker-and-thought-forms","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2011\/05\/darth-vader-luke-skywalker-and-thought-forms.html","title":{"rendered":"Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker and Thought Forms"},"content":{"rendered":"

UPDATE below<\/strong><\/p>\n

As I was writing my promised discussion of spiritual evil I found myself being drawn more and more into an amazing series of incidents that took place during the 1980s. I was a complete newbie in matters Pagan and occult at the time, and was an amazed bystander who knew, and still knows, a number of the people involved.\u00a0 My friend Don Frew was deeply, centrally, involved, and so I recently visited him to refresh my memory about the details of events that happened over 20 years ago.\u00a0 As we talked it became clear to me that what happened deserves a post of its own, rather then being merely an illustrative example to some points on spiritual evil.\u00a0 These events have never been written up before, yet they constitute one of the most fascinating explorations into the reality of Thought Forms that I have ever encountered.<\/p>\n

It all involves Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker, and Grimjack<\/a>. The story is below the fold.<\/p>\n

Our adventure begins with a Ouija board.\u00a0 A group of friends had gathered to play with one and a woman who I will refer to as \u201cLark\u201d was among them.\u00a0 She thought of Ouija boards as kind of silly, but her friends wanted to play with it, so OK.\u00a0 There were many fans of Battlestar Galactica<\/a> in the group, and they decided to see if they could contact a character in the series.\u00a0 Lark ended up being on one end of the planchette, and was about to discover hitherto unsuspected and not entirely welcome abilities.<\/p>\n

The Battlestar Galactica character came through quite strongly, to everyone\u2019s amazement.\u00a0 But soon afterwards Lark began experiencing powerful urges to begin writing on some paper.\u00a0 As she did the character came through again, but more rapidly.\u00a0 However Lark had never been a strong fan of Battlestar Galactica, preferring Star Wars, the first episode of which had come out. Perhaps because of her much stronger emotional involvement with Star Wars, two major characters began communicating through her pen: Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader.<\/p>\n

The two appeared to be contesting against one another for control of her pen as they had contested with one another in the movie.\u00a0 Episodes of autonomic or automatic writing<\/a> got more frequent ad more difficult for Lark to resist. The battles between the two characters for domination over her writing began to dominate her life, and both claimed that \u201cStar Wars\u201d was an actual historical event that happened “A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away….”\u00a0 Lucas had supposedly psychically picked up on what had happened, turning it into a movie.\u00a0 Lark in an earlier incarnation had been\u00a0 a female cat like alien who had been Skywalker\u2019s lover and once Vader\u2019s student. Vader wanted her back and in one case even knocked her forward out of a chair while causing a serious welt to appear across her back as \u201cdiscipline\u201d to bring her into line.\u00a0 Frew remembers him writing that this was a reminder \u201cof what a light saber feels like.\u201d<\/p>\n

Whatever was happening, it was getting out of hand, and Lark was not happy about it.<\/p>\n

Psychic space aliens?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Around this time these events came to the attention of J. Allen Hynek<\/a> the noted UFO researcher and adviser to the US Air Force on such matters.\u00a0 At the time Hynek had become interested in people claiming psychic connections with aliens, and had devised a interesting means to make an initial evaluation.\u00a0 If person A was claiming such connections, he would ask person B, who also claimed alien connections, about the characteristics of the alien supposedly contacting person A, who was unknown to B.\u00a0 The person\/alien he asked about Lark\u2019s alien described her as a cat-like female.<\/p>\n

As Hynek studied what was going on with Lark, he decided it was too weird for his purposes, and backed out.\u00a0 However, he suggested she work with Don Frew who at the time was deeply involved in investigating paranormal phenomena.<\/p>\n

Frew remembers that Lark\u2019s episodes of writing were characterized by being so rapid that someone had to tear the paper on a pad away so she could continue on a fresh sheet, and that while always very hurried, the handwriting styles of Vader, Skywalker, were different. As if different beings were doing the writing.\u00a0 On the other hand, the female alien spoke through Lark rather than writing.<\/p>\n

It seemed pretty clear to Frew that whatever was happening, Star Wars was not a genuine historical event.\u00a0 His guess was that Vader and Skywalker were thought forms<\/a>,\u00a0creations of the mental focus on many people on a particular character with a given set of qualities, that coalesced into a kind of psychic entity kept together and \u2018fed\u2019 by mental attention. Thought forms had a long history in Western and Tibetan magickal traditions at least, but had always been considered deliberate constructions by a magician.\u00a0 If Vader and Skywalker were thought forms, they could also be created by the relatively undisciplined thoughts of thousands or millions of people.<\/p>\n

Vader communicates with Vader<\/strong><\/p>\n

Frew had friends in the comic and science fiction communities, which would prove very important in exploring this possibility. Around this time there was a science fiction convention in the Bay Area, and David Prowse<\/a>, \u00a0who played Vader\u2019s body (James Earl Jones played his voice) was going to be a guest there.\u00a0 Frew sent Prowse a query asking whether he would be interested in meeting \u2018Darth Vader.\u2019\u00a0 Prowse responded that yes, he would. He, Frew, and Lark met, she went into trance, and Prowse talked with Vader.<\/p>\n

The result of the meeting was deeply disturbing to Prowse.\u00a0 He told Frew that Vader told him things about the character that Prowse had come up with to help give his acting depth, but which no one else knew.\u00a0\u00a0 Vader even described details about the interior of Prowse\u2019s home in England.\u00a0 It was like talking to the \u2018real\u2019 Vader himself, Prowse told Frew.<\/p>\n

Prowse\u2019s experience was compatible with the\u00a0 possibility of Vader being a thought form.\u00a0 He knew information that people involved with Vader knew, but he did not know how a light saber worked because no one did.\u00a0 But Frew wanted to explore this possibility further, for if this was the case Lark was a \u201cliterary medium\u201d in his words, a medium who could communicate with thought forms created by popular attention.<\/p>\n

But how to test this possibility?\u00a0 Frew\u2019s first effort was to see whether Lark could contact Spiderman, a comic book character with tens of thousands of devoted fans.\u00a0 She could. \u2018Spidey\u2019 came through loud and clear, and gave some information about the character not known to the general public.\u00a0 But there was no way to test whether this information was valid or not.<\/p>\n

Grimjack weirds out his creator<\/strong><\/p>\n

It was then that Frew thought of testing this possibility with \u201cGrimjack,\u201d a popular character then, but largely unknown today.\u00a0 The character was essentially the creation of two men, Tim Truman and John Ostrander.\u00a0 No one else was involved in the writing.\u00a0 He has some 40,000 fans.\u00a0 Finally, one of the two men, Frew thinks it was Truman, was going to be in Berkeley staying with a mutual friend.<\/p>\n

A meeting was arranged and Lark was encouraged to contact Grimjack.\u00a0 When the character came through, he was asked a number of questions about future adventures. Truman was then told what Grimjack said and was, as Frew put it, \u201cweirded out.\u201d The information was accurate but there was no way she could have known it.<\/p>\n

These discoveries were fascinating, and while I never met either the entities or Hynek or Prowse or Truman, I knew all the other parties, and was present when they were discussing what was happening. I was also present when Lark channeled the female alien and was finally freed from her unpleasant connection with the Star Wars entities.\u00a0 She was asked to have the alien come through, and after some conversation with a shaman, Greg, the being was tricked into entering a crystal.\u00a0 The crystal was immediately encased in salt and a jar, and buried in a place where it was unlikely to be found.\u00a0 Lark had no more trouble.<\/p>\n

Significantly to me, a traditional shamanic method succeeded in ending unpleasant experiences with thought forms apparently by breaking connection with the central connection.<\/p>\n

As to who or what the female alien was, no one seems quite certain.\u00a0 She could not have been a thought form in the same sense Vader and Skywalker were because she was not a character in the movie.\u00a0 On the other hand, there were extensive secondary stories being produced based on the movie\u2019s plot, and Lark herself, after the aliens contact, began writing some.<\/p>\n

Obviously playing a central role between Vader and Skywalker would have some appeal, and the alien could have been her own creation as a literary thought form.\u00a0 Many fiction authors report that their characters take on a kind of independent personality as they are being written, and the Philip experiment (see below) supports this possibility.\u00a0 Yet Vader and Skywalker treated this being as if she was real, and Vader at least had access to knowledge Lark did not.\u00a0 On the other hand neither had any knowledge that was not known by fans.\u00a0 For example, neither knew anything about how a light saber worked, I imagine because no one does.\u00a0 It was a prop. Nor was there any evidence that Vader knew he was Skywalker’s father. \u00a0As far as I can tell, Lucas had made that decision, changing an earlier story line that had Vader killing Skywalker’s father, but none of the fans knew it. \u00a0That being so, perhaps Lucas’s ideas were drowned out by popular beliefs to the contrary. (By comparison, no one had any beliefs about Prowse’s house except Prowse.)<\/p>\n

Frew\u2019s investigations are not the only ones that shed some light on this kind of thought form.<\/p>\n

The Philip Experiment<\/strong><\/p>\n

The Philip Experiment performed by Canadian researchers in the Toronto Society for Psychical Research during the 1970s.\u00a0 Essentially a thought form was deliberately created and then tested through s\u00e9ances.\u00a0 With most fascinating results.\u00a0 One brief write up is here<\/a>. \u00a0A short description of the experiment and its context in the history of investigations of the paranormal is Scott Fowler\u2019s The Philip Experiment<\/a><\/em> (short PDF). Iris Owen and Margaret Sparrow wrote a book about this experiment, Conjuring Up Philip: an adventure in psychokenesis<\/a><\/em>, which unfortunately is out of print and used copies are very expensive.<\/p>\n

I tell this story for several reasons.\u00a0 First, if much that we term \u2018evil\u2019 is our own creation, here is one means by which it can take on what appears to be spirit form. Once this happens it is an open question to me as to how much independence such a formation can acquire. I do not know.<\/p>\n

Second, it suggests the boundaries between minds are far more porous than we are inclined to believe, and the creative power of imagination is far greater than we usually think.\u00a0 While I do not believe the Gods as I have encountered them <\/em>are the thought forms of human beings it seems pretty clear that an open-ended variety of psychic manifestations may be of this character.<\/p>\n

Third, it is one of the best examples I have come across as to how this kind of phenomena can be studied by people who take the possibility seriously.\u00a0\u00a0 And given my own experience, if someone does not take the possibility seriously, I am not all that much interested in what they have to say on the matter.<\/p>\n

Fourth, it\u2019s a good tale<\/p>\n

I hope to get back to the spiritual evil post in time, but this seems juicy enough for now.<\/p>\n

 <\/p>\n

UPDATE<\/strong><\/p>\n

The Shaman who solved Lark’s problems with the cat-woman alien just sent me his “stream of consciousness” reaction to the event. \u00a0I asked him whether I could pass it on, and he said yes. So here it is, including a criticism of a poorly written part on my part.<\/p>\n

Here is what I remember<\/p>\n

Don sat over there, my anchor<\/p>\n

Lark went into a trance, and so did I<\/p>\n

She verbalizing, me asking questions and sometimes directing attention<\/p>\n

Like most trance journeys, details are blurred (esp after so many years) but first I just followed here a bit to see where she was, and then to see the entities of her dreams<\/p>\n

In light of your thought forms\u2014without her projection the experience was through my own, so that the \u201cdimensions\u201d or whatever she called them were less detailed with the SF\/movie and familiar to me in my terms.<\/p>\n

The closest we got to Darth Vader was close enough for me. The Whirlpool, the Pit, the hole into the void\u2014it\u2019s those to me\u2014the great desire, the lust for emptiness, the place of falling into when despair is the best we can do. It looked like Darth Vader to me that moment.<\/p>\n

At the bottom of that endless pit is where an owing takes place, can take place, and lies the spark. I remember Lark owning it, the skeleton mother devours Inanna, and I asked her where did he live in her and she said her heart.<\/p>\n

And where now Lark, is Obi Wan Kenobi? Pause. He must be here. *gasp* Ask him, Lark, if you wish, help you<\/p>\n

\u201cThat\u2019s too corny,\u201d she says out loud—it\u2019s an iconic scene in the movie after all.<\/p>\n

No, no, don\u2019t get distracted, where is Obi, don\u2019t speak out loud, use your hands, see use the feathers here to show the path a bit, and she asks and I see this ball of golden light there, and it comes and pauses, and just reach out and take it and it\u2019s ok? Yes? Where will you put it? Him? Yes, of course. Welcome him, ok, thank him, ok!<\/p>\n

And for Darth, the shadow, do you want to keep him there or throw him away? And then was the crystal and bottle.<\/p>\n

=======<\/p>\n

As for Thought Forms, just off the top of my head, I presume you mean the Theosophist type.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s clear to me now that half of our spiritual nature is projection. No, better said this way: our biologic human, ingrained social, and learned personal experiences all shape our interface with the Mystery.<\/p>\n

Lark\u2019s personal experience as an overly sensitive medium, untrained and unguarded, generated the crisis, a very real need to understand what was going on. I recall she had been pushed down a flight of stairs as well as your litany of dangers.<\/p>\n

The normal medium of this interface is through Mythology, the set of interpretative images that society gives to us to interface with Mystery. Mask work reveals its secrets into the Mystery. Modern American mythology is of Economics, Progress and Monotheism; none of which provide any symbols or substance or meaning to Lark\u2019s experience. Only the devil is a likely candidate for her focusing of this power\u2014Lark was very focused upon details. I don\u2019t know why she rejected the devil. Instead, her interface with the potent horrible force behind the mask was processed by her as Darth Vader, the potent horrible force behind the mask who was watching from billboards, newspapers and everywhere else.<\/p>\n

Are Thoughforms defined as having originated with an individual. I forget. Is it on your site? \u00a0[No]<\/p>\n

By the way\u2026<\/p>\n

\u201cShe was asked to have ___ come through \u2013 this time speaking rather than writing as her mediumship abilities had improved substantially, and after some conversation with a shaman, Greg, was tricked into entering a crystal. \u201c<\/p>\n

\u2026is a rather ambiguous sentence to have in print. I\u2019d really hate to have it thought that part of me was buried somewhere. It looks like it was badly edited or is an artifact of unfinished construction.<\/p>\n

 <\/p>\n

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