{"id":688,"date":"2010-10-06T18:51:51","date_gmt":"2010-10-06T18:51:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2010\/10\/theurgicon-and-pagan-neoplatonism-iv.html"},"modified":"2010-10-06T18:51:51","modified_gmt":"2010-10-06T18:51:51","slug":"theurgicon-and-pagan-neoplatonism-iv","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2010\/10\/theurgicon-and-pagan-neoplatonism-iv.html","title":{"rendered":"Theurgicon and Pagan Neoplatonism IV."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.5in\">To my mind the presentations<br \/>\nby Tony Mierzwicki, Brandy Williams and Don Frew constituted the meat of the<br \/>\nTheurgicon gathering, but two other presentations added additional<br \/>\ndimensions.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Diana Young (I was<br \/>\nunable to find a link to her &#8211; perhaps someone can help)<span>&nbsp; <\/span>spoke from a ceremonial magick<br \/>\nperspective rooted in the Golden Dawn and its offshoots. &nbsp;The sessions concluded with <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sam_Webster\">Sam Webster <\/a>&nbsp;exploring the most important tasks confronting modern Pagans, when their practice as viewed from a perspective rooted in both modern Neopaganism and in<br \/>\nthe Golden Dawn and ceremonial magick.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.5in\">Much of Diana Young&#8217;s presentation<br \/>\nfocused on parallel developments in the lives of two of the early 20<sup>th<\/sup><br \/>\ncentury&#8217;s most important ceremonial magicians,<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Aleister_Crowley\"> Aleister Crowley<\/a>&nbsp;and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dion_Fortune\">Dion Fortune<\/a>.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>She emphasized the many<br \/>\nparallels in the lives of these two, parallels that while interesting in giving<br \/>\na sense of the rivalry of personalities that has such prominence in modern<br \/>\noccultism, seemed to me to shed little light on theurgy as such.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.5in\">After her entertaining talk, Diana<br \/>\nand her partner Robert Young performed a kind of ritual, or perhaps a reciting<br \/>\nof the text of a ritual.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I was a<br \/>\nbit confused as to what was happening.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>It&#8217;s different strokes for different folks, and I am not fond of ritual<br \/>\nas a spectator activity. Not knowing many of the allusions they spoke of, the<br \/>\nritual or whatever it was left me untouched, although some of those present<br \/>\nreported liking it a lot<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.5in\">Sam Webster concluded the sessions<br \/>\nwith a rousing address on how the ancient Pagan world was enriched by the<br \/>\npresence of temples, to which people could go for powerful rituals and<br \/>\ncommunion with the Gods.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Iamblichus&#8217;s ideal, Webster argued, was to make contact with as many deities<br \/>\nas possible, in all the temples, and so become ever more whole through<br \/>\nencounter with different aspects of Spirit. We should aspire to the same.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.5in\">He argued that in 529ce the<br \/>\nChristian emperor Justinian closed the last Pagan schools in the empire, and Western<br \/>\nCivilization came to an end. <span>&nbsp;<\/span>Christian Civilization took its place. <\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.5in\">Webster made the very interesting<br \/>\npoint that in Pagan times &#8220;heretic&#8221; did not have the negative connotations it<br \/>\nacquired in the Christian world.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>This<br \/>\nwas because its reference to choice was in keeping with a Pagan understanding<br \/>\nof the rich diversity of manifestations of the Sacred, but not the Christian<br \/>\nemphasis on One Right Way. As he put it, Nature abhors a vacuum, always<br \/>\nundermines a monoculture, and the Christian spiritual monoculture only existed<br \/>\nbecause of the sword and scaffold.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Once these were set aside it fragmented, and once freedom of inquiry<br \/>\narrived, it began to dissolve.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I<br \/>\nthink he is right. Now Christian Civilization has come to an end, and the<br \/>\nfuture opens before us.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Something<br \/>\nnew is arising, and we can help make it beautiful and inspiring.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.5in\">Webster called for Pagans who<br \/>\nidentified themselves as Priests and Priestesses of particular deities to form<br \/>\n&#8220;colleges&#8221; of fellow devotees, to compare notes and deepen their practices<br \/>\nindividually and collectively.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>For<br \/>\nexample, different priests of Hermes should get together and talk about their<br \/>\npractices and experiences.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>From<br \/>\nthose initial connections the Pagan community would begin having celebrations<br \/>\nand feast days honoring particular divinities.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Webster argued that if we had not developed to that point<br \/>\nyet, we would soon.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.5in\">During the discussion I asked<br \/>\nWebster what he knew about the musical practices of Classical Paganism.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Not much is known because they were<br \/>\nbanned by the Christian autghorities, but apparently some survived.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Flamenco music as well as Greek and<br \/>\nBalkan dance likely has roots in Pagan ritual music. Serious flamenco dancers<br \/>\noften go into trance today, taken over by the &#8220;spirit of the dance&#8221; which is<br \/>\ncalled &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.duendedrama.org\/duendees.htm\">duende<\/a>.&#8221; &nbsp;While as is their wayl&nbsp;Christians have&nbsp;tried to give it a dark reputation, duende is well<br \/>\nknown in the flamenco world.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>That discussion reminded me of one time when I was listening to a wonderful Greek piece, only<br \/>\nto find myself dancing, <i>and not doing it. <\/i>Certain ritual music must have really<br \/>\nrocked!<span>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.5in\">During the discussion others spoke<br \/>\nof reports of survivals of ritual chants and toning. &nbsp;Some demonstrated, but those I heard did little for me.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I think I am a lover of the more earthy<br \/>\nrhythms, such as contemporary African diasporic <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=7PQE1QoC6K8\">ritual dance and drumming<\/a>. &nbsp;It is wonderful.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.5in\">We face the task of rebuilding a<br \/>\nworld where living deeply within such a culture is possible, and while we are<br \/>\nstill pretty far from being able to build temples, that day is coming.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Those members of our community who have<br \/>\ndone well financially can help, but Webster described a way<span>&nbsp; <\/span>the rank and file with less wealth<br \/>\ncould also contribute.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Many banks,<br \/>\nand even better, credit unions, offer $10,000 life insurance policies<br \/>\nessentially for free (hoping people will add to the total and bring in<br \/>\nmoney).<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Webster urged we take out<br \/>\nsuch policies and make a Pagan organization the beneficiary.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>Concluding Thoughts<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.5in\">Theurgicon was a success, and I<br \/>\nthink everyone left with a deepened appreciation of the potential our past has<br \/>\nfor enriching our present, nt through romanticized memories (not that there is<br \/>\nanything wrong with that) but as a still living set of insights and practices<br \/>\nuseful today.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>There was<br \/>\nconsiderable talk of holding another Theurgicaon next year, a possibility I<br \/>\nhope comes to pass.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.5in\">I personally would like to see next<br \/>\nyear&#8217;s address the issue of where the material world really stands in a<br \/>\nNeoplatonic philosophy cleansed of monotheistic distortions.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>In addition, I would like to see people<br \/>\naddress theurgy in the context of an almost universal human ability except when<br \/>\nsuppressed to enter into trance and have connection with spirits.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.5in\">There are plans to make the talks available on line, but so far that has not happened. &nbsp;Keep an eye on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theurgicon.com\/\">Theurgicon<\/a> to see when it happens.<\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To my mind the presentations by Tony Mierzwicki, Brandy Williams and Don Frew constituted the meat of the Theurgicon gathering, but two other presentations added additional dimensions.&nbsp; 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