{"id":593,"date":"2010-05-21T12:13:50","date_gmt":"2010-05-21T12:13:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2010\/05\/a-pagan-perspective-on-rand-paul-civil-rights-and-libertarianism.html"},"modified":"2010-05-21T12:13:50","modified_gmt":"2010-05-21T12:13:50","slug":"a-pagan-perspective-on-rand-paul-civil-rights-and-libertarianism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2010\/05\/a-pagan-perspective-on-rand-paul-civil-rights-and-libertarianism.html","title":{"rendered":"A Pagan Perspective on Rand Paul, Civil Rights, and Libertarianism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">For a former libertarian such as myself Rand Paul&#8217;s attack<br \/>\non Civil Rights legislation is to be expected, except perhaps for its political<br \/>\nidiocy.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>For that latter quality I<br \/>\nam grateful because it weakens his candidacy.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>But there are interesting issues floating around the<br \/>\nkerfluffle Paul&#8217;s comments to Rachel Maddow raised.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\"><span>&nbsp;<\/span>More than almost any other political position, libertarians<br \/>\ntake pride in the rational derivation of their political views from &#8220;first<br \/>\nprinciples&#8221; of human rights or some other ethical position.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The best libertarians are highly<br \/>\nethical people and hold views like Paul&#8217;s with absolutely no personal racism.<br \/>\nThey are our allies on issues of religious freedom.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Nevertheless, their position (which I used to hold, years ago)<br \/>\nis radically incoherent.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>And why<br \/>\nit is incoherent is particularly important for us Pagans to consider.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>But for those of you who are interested<br \/>\nin how this applies to Pagans but uninterested in political theory, scroll down<br \/>\nto <b>Relationships Are Primary<\/b><span style=\"font-weight:normal\"> at the<br \/>\nbottom.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">Nevertheless it explains why not<br \/>\nonly am I no longer a libertarian as I was in my youth, but why no libertarian could be a hard-core libertarian if they are intellectually rigorous.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Coming from a Pagan perspective, where<br \/>\nthe world has value beyond what we assign to it makes this critique more persuasive, but it applies to secular libertarian individualists as well.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">Libertarians base their criticisms<br \/>\nof anti-discrimination laws on property rights.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Assuming just property rights, they argue, any voluntary<br \/>\ntransaction between consenting adults is OK, and any coerced act impinges on their freedom.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The critical issues are<br \/>\nthat the property be justly held and the transactions be voluntary.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>It all sounds very noble and<br \/>\nprincipled, and noble and principled people believe this &#8211; as well as some who are neither.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">But there is a gorilla in the<br \/>\ncloset, one that reduces the argument about the injustice of civil rights<br \/>\nregulations on private businesses, or equivalent measures to so much hokum.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">The problem is where the argument starts- it assumes &#8220;just&#8221; property rights without ever figuring out very seriously why<br \/>\none set of rights is just and another is not.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>A key assumption is that property comes in tight little packets with<br \/>\neasily discernable boundaries we can either choose to respect or to aggress against.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>And this assumption is simply wrong.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I will give two examples that, when thought about, reduce rigorous libertarianism to gibberish.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\"><b>Letting Some Light Shine on the<br \/>\nMatter<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">You and I are next door<br \/>\nneighbors.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I like loud stereos and<br \/>\nplay my music at all hours.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>You<br \/>\nlike to keep your back yard brightly lit by floodlights all night long because<br \/>\nyou have a paranoid fear of prowlers and burglars. (I pick the examples, so I<br \/>\nam the less neurotic of the two of us in them.)<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I like to watch the stars in the night sky and you are a<br \/>\nlight sleeper and open the windows on hot nights.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">Each of us is a problem for the<br \/>\nother.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Each of us refuses<br \/>\nreasonable compromises, saying our property is ours to do with as we will. I have a &#8220;right&#8221; to watch stars from my back yard and to play my music. &nbsp;You retort you have a right to illuminate your backyard and get a good night&#8217;s sleep.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">Clearly each of us is in the wrong<br \/>\nbecause, in libertarian terms, we aggress across another&#8217;s boundaries, I with<br \/>\nmy loud music. You with your bright lights.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>But in the day time far more light pours into my yard, and<br \/>\nif you had your floodlights on, no noticeable harm would be done.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>During the day, when the environment is<br \/>\nfar noisier, my music is lost in the din.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>This leads to certain important questions anti-government libertarian<br \/>\ntheory has no way of answering in such a way as to morally commit the loser to<br \/>\nfollowing the principle arrived at.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">1. How much light constitutes too<br \/>\nmuch?<span>&nbsp; <\/span>At what hour, if any, does<br \/>\nthis change?<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">2. How much sound constitutes too<br \/>\nmuch?<span>&nbsp; <\/span>At what hour, if any, does<br \/>\nthis change?<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">The way we do it in a democratic<br \/>\ncommunity is have people elected by fair rules ultimately be responsible for<br \/>\nsetting noise and light ordinances.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>As a rule they do this based on a sensitivity to community standards as<br \/>\nto what constitutes appropriate behavior.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>That way losers will usually feel the procedure was fair even if they<br \/>\ndid not like this particular outcome.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>It is an attitude that helps preserve civilization.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>What makes it fair? At least at some<br \/>\npoint everyone had equal input on the matter of either deciding the law or<br \/>\ndeciding who will decide the law.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\"><b>Clearing the Air<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">The next example is quite real,<br \/>\nand the principle it spotlights is not all that unusual.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Missoula, Montana<br \/>\nsits in between mountains where, once the population grew big enough, the air<br \/>\nbecame increasingly dangerous from trapped wood smoke hanging over the city in<br \/>\nthe winter.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Originally there were<br \/>\ntoo few people for this to matter, and everyone had wood burning stoves. (Wood<br \/>\nis plentiful and cheap.)<span>&nbsp; <\/span>As<br \/>\nMissoula&#8217;s population grew people with breathing difficulties increasingly had trouble, and some might die prematurely from the pollution.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;Burning wood, a<\/span>&nbsp;use of property once harmless and practiced universally, had become dangerous once<br \/>\nenough people did it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">Missoula&#8217;s city government banned<br \/>\nthe use of wood burning stoves and fireplaces in new buildings.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The air would remain dirtier than some<br \/>\nliked but far cleaner than some would have preferred so long as they could have<br \/>\na fireplace.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>ANY point between<br \/>\nzero regulation and no regulation could be criticized as inferior to some other<br \/>\npoint along some principle or another.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Air that interfered with some people&#8217;s views might still be safe enough<br \/>\nto tolerate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">What matters in such cases where a<br \/>\nrange of options can appear reasonable is that the procedure for deciding the<br \/>\nissue be regarded as f<i>air<\/i><span style=\"font-style:normal\">.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Democratic procedures are more fair<br \/>\nthan unanimity because, as James Madison pointed out, requiring more than a<br \/>\nmajority can hold a majority hostage to an unprincipled minority, as California<br \/>\nand the US Senate have both discovered to their sorrow.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Anything requiring less than a majority<br \/>\nmeans a minority could rule. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\"><b>Relationships Are Primary<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">Property rights are not between me<br \/>\nand what I own, they are between me and you.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They facilitate cooperation.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Robinson Crusoe did not need them until Friday came<br \/>\nalong.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They draw the line between appropriate<br \/>\nrelationships and inappropriate relationships.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>These principles are not &#8220;objective&#8221; but they are<br \/>\nfundamental to human life, and they need to be determined by some means.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Democratic principles have been found<br \/>\nto be the most fair way to do so because losers on a particular issue can<br \/>\nbelieve they get a fair shake, and might even be winners the net time around.Therefore they can peacefully accept decisions with which they disagree.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">In general, libertarians <i>appear<br \/>\n<\/i><span style=\"font-style:normal\">to be intellectually rigorous in their<br \/>\nthinking because they dodge the tough initial issues, assume they are solved,<br \/>\nand then proceed as if these more fundamental issues no longer existed.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>In reality they are intellectually<br \/>\nrigorous once they have made arbitrary assumptions about the nature of<br \/>\nreality.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>In this libertarians are like the brighter Fundamentalists in interesting ways. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">In all honesty I think it is even<br \/>\nharder to be a hard-core libertarian <i>Pagan<\/i><span style=\"font-style:normal\"><br \/>\nthan a libertarian in general, though I have known some and they were often<br \/>\nnice people.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>In Paganism as I<br \/>\nunderstand it and have experienced it the non-human world is also sentient and<br \/>\nalive to a degree denied by mainstream society.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>This means that issues of appropriate and inappropriate<br \/>\nrelationships penetrate even more deeply into our interactions with the world<br \/>\nthan they do for the average Christian or secularist.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>For Pagans issues of appropriate relationship include<br \/>\nplants, animals, and for some, myself included, the earth itself.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The libertarian assumption that my<br \/>\nproperty is what I own and control appears as morally immature and even childish.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For a former libertarian such as myself Rand Paul&#8217;s attack on Civil Rights legislation is to be expected, except perhaps for its political idiocy.&nbsp; For that latter quality I am grateful because it weakens his candidacy.&nbsp; 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