{"id":555,"date":"2010-04-12T12:25:31","date_gmt":"2010-04-12T12:25:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2010\/04\/a-good-world-and-undeserved-suffering-the-tough-cases.html"},"modified":"2010-04-12T12:25:31","modified_gmt":"2010-04-12T12:25:31","slug":"a-good-world-and-undeserved-suffering-the-tough-cases","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2010\/04\/a-good-world-and-undeserved-suffering-the-tough-cases.html","title":{"rendered":"A  Good World and Undeserved Suffering: the Tough Cases"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">This post<br \/>\nfulfills a promise I made to discuss the tough examples readers raised in my<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2010\/03\/a-pagan-perspective-on-beauty-and-suffering.html\">post on beauty and suffering<\/a>. &nbsp;I do it from a Pagan perspective, one emphasizing the sacredness of the world<br \/>\nand of the basic processes that make it up.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">Every time I go<br \/>\nto the local grocery store I put a contribution in a jar for Haile.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>She is a three year old deathly ill<br \/>\nfrom a rare form of leukemia.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>From<br \/>\nwhat I am told, her chances are not good.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>A display in the store (where her father works) shows a lovely little<br \/>\ngirl blowing bubbles and clowning around.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>They were taken before she lost her hair as one effect of therapy.<\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">I know of<br \/>\nnothing more heart wrenching than the suffering and deaths of children.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Death is a part of life, but these<br \/>\nlittle beings have got very small helpings of life and a very big ones of<br \/>\ndeath.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">How can this be<br \/>\nin a good world?<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">One could<br \/>\nanswer, and answer truthfully, that it is far better than it used to be.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>With one exception, no sons of our<br \/>\ncountry&#8217;s Founders lived to adulthood.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>The exception was John Quincy Adams.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>In 1853 in New York City half of all reported deaths were<br \/>\nchildren of less than 5.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Today<br \/>\ncases like Haile&#8217;s are a small minority.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">But one could<br \/>\nargue, and argue truly, that these improvements are due to the growth of<br \/>\nscientific knowledge and hygiene &#8211; they are not evidence of a benevolent world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height:150%\"><b>Personal Evidence?<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">At bottom my<br \/>\nconfidence that the world is ultimately good and sacred is based on another<br \/>\norder of experience.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Having had<br \/>\nencounters with deities and with divine love, a love that is super human, I am<br \/>\nsure that at its bottom there is an answer to this mystery.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Having encountered entities without<br \/>\nbodies in our sense, I am equally sure that consciousness can exist<br \/>\nindependently of our physical selves.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Is our consciousness of this nature?<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Of course I cannot be sure, but it seems more likely to be<br \/>\nso than for it not to be so.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">But these<br \/>\nexperiences do not come close to explaining why so many came into this world<br \/>\nonly to linger briefly, and die, let alone dying so horribly.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Their suffering underlines<span>&nbsp; <\/span>an ultimate mystery but cast no light<br \/>\non its solution. In a good world why do bad things happen to undeserving<br \/>\npeople?<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height:150%\"><b>Bigger Patterns<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">And yet some of<br \/>\nus &#8211; and I am one such &#8211; try and discern a pattern, a logic, to our experiences<br \/>\nthat penetrates more deeply than simply saying we have faith based on personal<br \/>\nexperiences that there is a moral and loving order to the world, and that no<br \/>\none suffers for naught.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Yes, I<br \/>\nhave such a faith.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>No, I do not<br \/>\nbelieve anyone else should find that particularly convincing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">What follows is<br \/>\nmy own effort to find a plausible pattern that is motivated by my experiences,<br \/>\nbut hopes to make a case to those who have not had them that the issue of why<br \/>\nsuffering exists is not so cut and dried as atheists and Gnostics might<br \/>\nsuggest.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">If consciousness<br \/>\nis as irreducible as matter &#8211; and this is a reasonable position &#8211; it does not<br \/>\nthereby follow that all consciousness much resembles our own.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Atoms have very little consciousness by<br \/>\nour standards.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>In particular, they<br \/>\nseem to have no individuation in our sense of the term.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">Individuation<br \/>\narise with complexity.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Extrapolating from this insight, individuation of awareness also<br \/>\nincreases as complexity increases.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Until a certain level of complexity has arisen, awareness is more<br \/>\noriented towards flourishing and vitality than towards more complex value perceptions.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Organisms take advantage of whatever opportunities<br \/>\narise to grow and reproduce and flourish. As part of a larger field of<br \/>\nconsciousness their individuality is partial, but real.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">At a certain<br \/>\npoint organisms begin to be able to experience &#8220;higher&#8221; forms of awareness<br \/>\nbecause their complexity has grown to the point where such awareness can be<br \/>\nlocated within a body.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I have<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2009\/06\/animal-morality.html\">posted on animal morality<\/a> as an example. <span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">In the case of<br \/>\nhuman awareness this capacity has grown to the point where &#8216;disinterested&#8221; care<br \/>\nand love is possible, a delight in the flourishing of others who need not be<br \/>\nuseful to us.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Many economists and<br \/>\n&#8220;game theorists&#8221;<span>&nbsp; <\/span>have trouble with<br \/>\nsuch a concept, but most other people probably do not because we have not been<br \/>\ntrained to think as sociopaths do.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">An environment<br \/>\nthat makes such awareness possible in physical form rests on a foundation of<br \/>\nmany other forms of life that are increasingly focused only on growth and<br \/>\nreproduction as we move towards ever simpler kinds of life.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>A degree of complexity must arise from<br \/>\nsimpler foundations in order for qualities such as love and care to manifest in<br \/>\nthe material world.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The chieft<br \/>\nimpelling physical force leading to such an outcome is rooted in the rise of<br \/>\npredators.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">Predators and<br \/>\nparasites arose when organisms able to extract energy from other organisms<br \/>\narose.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>This forced prey organisms<br \/>\nto adapt or die.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Absent them the<br \/>\nworld would be little beyond blue green algae.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">And so there is<br \/>\na paradox: a world able to have beings capable of love must emerge from a world<br \/>\nwhere love in physical form has no home and where predations is the principle<br \/>\nphysical cause for change in the direction of ever more varied degrees of<br \/>\nawareness and mind.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The Pagan<br \/>\ninsight on the interrelatedness, the necessary interrelatedness, of death and<br \/>\nlife, growth and decline, could not be better exemplified.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">And so we have<br \/>\nevolved in a world that is indescribably beautiful with wonderful opportunities<br \/>\nto learn and grow &#8211; but a world that can kill us, and ultimately will.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Organisms doing what they do and have<br \/>\nalways done are a primary cause of such death, particularly early deaths.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">And so we cry<br \/>\nand cry deeply at the deaths and suffering of the innocent, knowing that this<br \/>\nis the unavoidable price we pay for creativity and love in physical form.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height:150%\"><b>So Why Have a World at All?<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">But why have it<br \/>\nthen?<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Am I not just trying to make<br \/>\nlemonade out of a lemon?<span>&nbsp; <\/span>No.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">I think<br \/>\nindividuated consciousness grows from being within a body.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Philosophers and scientists are<br \/>\ndiscovering just how much of our thought processes are rooted in our<br \/>\nphysicality.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Our thought is<br \/>\nultimately metaphorical, and our initial metaphors are rooted in our experience<br \/>\nof our bodies. George Lakoff is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.edge.org\/3rd_culture\/lakoff\/lakoff_p4.html\">one of the pioneers<\/a> in this area of<br \/>\nknowledge.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">I suspect once a<br \/>\ndegree of self-awareness arises, consciousness is both individuated and able to<br \/>\nexist independently from a body. But the body is necessary for this to<br \/>\nhappen.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Perhaps it is like an egg<br \/>\nshell that makes development of the embryo possible.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>In such a case our bodily existence is part of the process<br \/>\nby which individuated awareness develops.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>If there are multiple incarnations, it may be how such an awareness<br \/>\ndeepens.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">So afterwards do<br \/>\nwe reincarnate or simply move on? I have no firm idea and I suspect both<br \/>\npossibilities are possible.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>A<br \/>\nseries of existences leads to an ever deeper and more complex expression of the<br \/>\nkinds of awareness that having a human body makes possible.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>But there seems to me no reason to<br \/>\nbelieve that is anything but one possibility out of many.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">Because my<br \/>\nexperience with &#8216;higher&#8217; consciousness indicates it is characterized by<br \/>\nsuperhuman love, I believe no being dies and is simply gone, leaving a<br \/>\npermanent hole in the heart of all who loved him or her.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>That is, until they die themselves,<br \/>\nleaving still more holes in others&#8217; hearts.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Here we are in the realm of final mystery, and I try and not<br \/>\ngo very far along that route. If we cannot grasp how a photon can be both a<br \/>\nparticle and a wave, how can we believe we can get a firm grip on these issues?<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">Even so, the<br \/>\nperspective I have provided can account for the existence of deep and unmerited<br \/>\nsuffering and tragedy within a good world where ultimately all of value is<br \/>\nredeemed.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Those children who did<br \/>\nnot make it are not gone forever.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Their core &#8216;gestalt&#8217; survives, once it has developed self-awareness.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:13.5pt;line-height:150%\">This argument<br \/>\nwould not convince an atheist to abandon atheism, nor does it try to.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Rather, it seeks to convince an atheist<br \/>\nor Gnostic (whom I think it does directly challenge) that I can agree with them<br \/>\non the observables and demonstrate a<i> coherent <\/i><span style=\"font-style:normal\">alternative interpretation of the evidence, one that rests on<br \/>\nexperiences many of us have had, acknowledges hideous undeserved suffering, and<br \/>\nstill finds the world fundamentally good.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This post fulfills a promise I made to discuss the tough examples readers raised in my post on beauty and suffering. &nbsp;I do it from a Pagan perspective, one emphasizing the sacredness of the world and of the basic processes that make it up. 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