{"id":500,"date":"2010-02-21T17:20:28","date_gmt":"2010-02-21T17:20:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2010\/02\/christians-and-pagans-a-positive-story.html"},"modified":"2010-02-21T17:20:28","modified_gmt":"2010-02-21T17:20:28","slug":"christians-and-pagans-a-positive-story","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2010\/02\/christians-and-pagans-a-positive-story.html","title":{"rendered":"Christians and Pagans: a Positive Story"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">The wonderful Pagan singer, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.celiaonline.com\/\">Celia<\/a>,<br \/>\ncame to Sonoma County yesterday.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>While readers of this blog know I admire her work, we had never<br \/>\nmet.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>However she had emailed me she<br \/>\nwould be singing at a meeting of Catholics concerned with social justice<br \/>\nissue.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Perhaps I might want to<br \/>\ncome?<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">I did.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I was not disappointed by Celia&#8217;s singing.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>She has a wonderful voice that does not<br \/>\nreceive anything close to justice when I listen to the song &#8220;Symbol&#8221; on my<br \/>\ncomputer.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>And she is a warm and genuine human<br \/>\nbeing as well.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">But other than this enthusiastic<br \/>\nplug, my post is not about Celia.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>It is about the lay Catholics associated with the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.spiritualenrichmentcenter.net\/\">Spiritual Enrichment Center<\/a> whom I met, some of whom later treated the two of us<br \/>\nto lunch. (I was a last minute add-on, but that did not bother them a bit.)<\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">The morning meeting was broken up<br \/>\ninto presentations on poverty and what Christians could do about it by people<br \/>\nwho had long walked their talk at a very personal level.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Some made their living this way until<br \/>\nthey retired, and then continued to do so at a reduced intensity.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I was impressed.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Celia sang during breaks between<br \/>\nsessions.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">As the morning progressed I was<br \/>\nstruck with the difference between what this Catholic group and what most Pagan<br \/>\ngroups would have done in holding a series of sessions on the issue of justice.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">We would probably have focused on<br \/>\nenvironmental justice towards humans and our other-than-human neighbors and, as<br \/>\nbefits a minority religion, likely have emphasized issues of interfaith and<br \/>\nreligious justice.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The Catholics<br \/>\nemphasized the poor.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">They were no more<br \/>\nanti-environmental than I was anti-the poor, and spoke kindly of the Wiccans<br \/>\nthey had encountered in various contexts. One woman said she would likely be a<br \/>\nPagan were she not first a Catholic.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>At no time did I hear a word of criticism or concern about the character<br \/>\nof our beliefs.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>What &#8220;theological&#8221;<br \/>\ndiscussion that emerged did so as a by-product of our conversations.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Particularly enjoyable was a<br \/>\ncelebration by us all of the advantages ritual brought to sacred work.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>We were simply a group of people with<br \/>\ndifferent religions talking about mutual concerns, from justice for children<br \/>\nliving in poverty to where the best mushroom pizza could be found in Santa<br \/>\nRosa.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">The entire morning through early<br \/>\nafternoon was delightful and I learned more about the situation facing the poor<br \/>\nthan I had ever imagined I would.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">The sessions and following lunch left me with two<br \/>\nthoughts I want to share.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The<br \/>\nfirst is important given the extreme nastiness we often encounter from some<br \/>\nother Christians, a nastiness I think we cannot afford to ignore.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I think there is a world of difference<br \/>\nbetween people, largely centered in the laity, who want to serve the Sacred and the world<br \/>\nthrough a religious context that appeals to them, whatever it might be, and<br \/>\nthose who are deeply concerned with the details of doctrine and organization,<br \/>\nand are stimulated by personal ambition. The second group gets the headlines<br \/>\nbut the first does most of the work that counts.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The second is parasitic on the first, probably in all groups<br \/>\nwhere enough people exist to have organizations and money to attract the<br \/>\nambitious.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">My second thought was that it<br \/>\ntakes a diversity of spiritual traditions to ever hope to honor all of the<br \/>\nsacred insofar as it touches on human experience.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>We are all limited beings with limited time and limited resources,<br \/>\nand we can probably of best service to our Gods and our ideals by focusing our<br \/>\nenergies.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>But the world calling<br \/>\nout for that focus is far bigger with more deserving causes than ten lifetimes<br \/>\ncould serve.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>A spiritual division<br \/>\nof labor might best address this problem.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">Years ago I organized an<br \/>\ninterfaith tree planting in Berkeley, and people of many faiths came and<br \/>\nplanted trees.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Now lay Catholics<br \/>\nhad organized a conference about the poor and social justice, and a couple of<br \/>\nPagans showed up, learned, and probably both of us left enriched spiritually<br \/>\nand with a greater concern for our society&#8217;s most abused members.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-indent:.25in\">If our society has a good future<br \/>\nahead of us regarding interfaith relations, I had a nourishing taste of it<br \/>\nyesterday.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The wonderful Pagan singer, Celia, came to Sonoma County yesterday.&nbsp; While readers of this blog know I admire her work, we had never met.&nbsp; However she had emailed me she would be singing at a meeting of Catholics concerned with social justice issue.&nbsp; Perhaps I might want to come? 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