{"id":491,"date":"2010-02-06T19:40:11","date_gmt":"2010-02-06T19:40:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2010\/02\/my-reply-to-rombald-about-the-security-of-american-freedom.html"},"modified":"2010-02-06T19:40:11","modified_gmt":"2010-02-06T19:40:11","slug":"my-reply-to-rombald-about-the-security-of-american-freedom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2010\/02\/my-reply-to-rombald-about-the-security-of-american-freedom.html","title":{"rendered":"My Reply to Rombald About the Security of American Freedom"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">In a comment on my <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2010\/02\/on-being-a-spiritual-warrior-1.html\">&#8220;Spiritual Warrior&#8221; pos<\/a>t Rombald suggested I was too concerned about the longevity of America&#8217;s religious liberty. &nbsp;Here is my answer, because to do the issue credit took me beyond a simple reply.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Rombald-<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">I wish I was a confident as you are about the religious and<br \/>\nphysical security of Pagans.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I<br \/>\nreally do.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>A few years ago I would<br \/>\nhave shared your views completely.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Now I do not.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Here is why I am not as secure in my sense of safety as I<br \/>\nwas not that long ago, despite the very important ousting of Republicans from<br \/>\npower in 2008.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I will present them<br \/>\nas a list rather than a paper because it would take too long and I do not have<br \/>\nthe time.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I will end with a<br \/>\ndiscussion of the factors that push in the opposite direction.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>1. <\/b>For many years my politics tended to be classical liberal<br \/>\nand strongly influenced by the principles of the American revolution (that last<br \/>\npart is still true).<span>&nbsp; <\/span>While I did<br \/>\nnot agree with conservatives on many issues, we shared roughly similar<br \/>\ninterpretations of the constitution.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Particularly starting with George Bush II, in a flash all of that<br \/>\nconservative veneration for the constitution and precedent and American<br \/>\ntraditions vanished in an orgy of flag waving breast beating, support for<br \/>\nsetting aside the bill of rights, and finally, aggressive war and torture.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Conservatives who raised concerns<a href=\"http:\/\/bartlett.blogs.nytimes.com\/2006\/03\/12\/how-i-became-a-bush-critic\/\"> were<br \/>\ndenounced and fired<\/a>. <span>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span><\/span>That the people who were the<br \/>\nbiggest cheerleaders for all this had at one time seemingly sincerely praised our<br \/>\nconstitutional tradition and the rule of law shook me deeply.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Commitment to American values had<br \/>\nbecome a matter of partisan politics to be set aside upon finally attaining<br \/>\npower.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I became far less<br \/>\ncomplacent about my country&#8217;s commitment to democracy when it could be so<br \/>\nundermined by a bunch of guys with box cutters.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>2.<\/b> The Republicans are no longer acting like an American<br \/>\npolitical party &#8211; they are acting like a European one.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>That means disciplined voting and a<br \/>\nbreakdown of the blurry boundaries between parties that have long characterized<br \/>\nAmerican politics.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The trouble is<br \/>\nthat while parliamentary regimes emerged out of struggled between disciplined<br \/>\nparties, and evolved ways of integrating this party discipline into democratic<br \/>\nsystems, our constitutional system was developed before the rise of<br \/>\nparties.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>It has worked well with<br \/>\nthem anyway, when they were what political scientists call &#8220;weak&#8221; which means<br \/>\nnot particularly cohesive and disciplined.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>But if you read James Madison&#8217;s Federalist 10, you will see<br \/>\nthat the logic of our most famous document written in defense of the American<br \/>\nsystem is directly contradicted if we have disciplined parties.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">In the American system, when you have a disciplined party it<br \/>\ncan cause our kind of government to break down, as we are seeing today in the<br \/>\nSenate.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>This is because the<br \/>\nconstitutional ideal is practical consensus.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Laws get passed when different kinds of majorities elected in<br \/>\ndifferent ways can all agree: the House, Senate, and President. <span>&nbsp;<\/span>This consensual bias is what has made<br \/>\nthe Senate so vulnerable today. A Senate that operated on the democratic<br \/>\nprinciple of majority vote would have been vastly more effective than the<br \/>\nassemblage of tired old men and women and the ideologues that stymie them that<br \/>\nwe have as &#8220;representatives&#8221; today.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>3<\/b>. This disciplined party is dominated by several groups<br \/>\nwith a very weak commitment to constitutional democracy, if they can be said to<br \/>\nhave any commitment at all.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Not<br \/>\nleast is the &#8220;Christian&#8221; right.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>So<br \/>\nwe have something rather alien to our history, a disciplined party with plenty<br \/>\nof control over members&#8217; funding at the national level, a party that would be<br \/>\nan irritant in a parliamentary system but is a serious problem in our<br \/>\nconstitutional one.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The contemporary<br \/>\nRepublican Party, by historical standards, is un-American.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>4<\/b>. The Weimar Republic was brought down not by riots, but by<br \/>\ntypical democratic coalition politics combined with efforts of the<br \/>\nanti-democratic parties on the right and left to bring about a state of<br \/>\nperpetual crisis, from which they hoped to gain power.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They generated enough crisis that<br \/>\ngenuine conservatives brought Hitler into the Chancellorship legally.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Then a new crisis &#8211; the Reichstag fire<br \/>\ncaused by arson by a particularly stupid communist -led to Hitler declaring a<br \/>\nstate of emergency and the Nazi dictatorship.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>5<\/b>. The Republicans, like the Nazis and Communists in the<br \/>\nWeimar Republic, have acted to make any government they do not control<br \/>\nungovernable.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>At the same time<br \/>\nwhen they were in power, the Republicans and their allies continually<br \/>\nquestioned the patriotism of even their gentler critics, talked crisis non<br \/>\nstop, and did all they could to spread fear of terrorism, politicized the<br \/>\nJustice Department, and sought to create a national machine for perpetual<br \/>\nrule.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They were acting as if they<br \/>\nwanted to prepare popular sentiment for a elective dictatorship &#8211; something<br \/>\nlike Mexico&#8217;s old PRI system.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Their<br \/>\nown excesses brought them down in 2008, but down is not out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>6<\/b>. Out of power we see major conservative and religious<br \/>\nright leaders like Limbaugh and Beck and Palin and too many others talk about<br \/>\nthe possible <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2009\/02\/culture-warriors-and-the-threat-of-violence.html\">need for armed insurrection, the deliberate treason of Democrats,<br \/>\nand similar sentiments<\/a>.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>This<br \/>\nerodes the foundation for a democratic government: that the opposition is<br \/>\nloyal, but has different ideas about policy, and if they win we have another<br \/>\nshot in the next election. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>7<\/b>. Crisis usually elevates authoritarian leaders.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>As continued crisis and Democratic<br \/>\nincompetence (which is not the fault of the Republicans by any means) continue,<br \/>\nmany people will seek a simple solution.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Certainly that has been the case in many countries in the past.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The &#8220;strong manly&#8221; leader able to kick<br \/>\nass and whip everyone into line that appeals to such voters will almost<br \/>\ncertainly be a Republican.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Such a<br \/>\nleader is a threat no matter what his party, but this is a continual Republican<br \/>\ntheme.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Hence their continual claim<br \/>\nthat people who disagree are either wimpish men or lesbians.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>8<\/b>. A key part of the Republican coalition, reflecting its<br \/>\nSouthern un-American roots, is the &#8220;Christian&#8221; right.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>One of their major tactics has been to spread fear and<br \/>\ndistrust of citizens they disapprove.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>This culture is responsible for almost 100 years of terror against black<br \/>\nAmericans in the south.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>It is<br \/>\nbased on reading the Bible in such a way that it will<span>&nbsp; <\/span>ALWAYS be a threat to democracy because it cannot admit that<br \/>\ndifferent points of view are truly legitimate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>9<\/b>.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The<br \/>\nChristian right, in their own groups, have frequently spoken of the need to<br \/>\n&#8220;dominate&#8221; the country and rule it by &#8220;Biblical&#8221; values.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>History tells us what those values are<br \/>\nwhen mixed with political power.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>In this post Nazi era, why would Pat Robertson, long a major Christian<br \/>\nright leader, speak of the need for a &#8220;Godly fumigation&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>10. A VERY IMPORTANT<\/b> thing to remember: In much of Europe<br \/>\nbefore the rise of the Nazis, German Jews were considered among the MOST<br \/>\ncompletely assimilated Jews in all of Europe.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They were more accepted in society than in most other European<br \/>\ncountries.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Even after the Nazi<br \/>\nrise to power, many said that conditions were worse in Poland.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Few left because it was inconceivable<br \/>\nthat what eventually happened could happen.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Pagans are more easily demonized and less well understood<br \/>\nthan were Jews.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Any population<br \/>\nthat can believe that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/storyonly\/2010\/2\/3\/833380\/-Your-Abbreviated-Pundit-Round-up\">Obama hates whites, was born in Kenya, and is a socialist<\/a><br \/>\nis a population so stupid they will believe anything told them by authorities<br \/>\nthey trust. This mass of ignorance, actively promoted by major right wing leaders,<span>&nbsp; <\/span>is a big big chunk of the Republican<br \/>\nParty &#8211; depending on the question from about 1\/3 to 2\/3.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Interestingly, the men who have done<br \/>\nmuch to encourage such views are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/tv\/w\/002546\/\">now attacking public confirmation<\/a> that much of<br \/>\ntheir audience believes the. &nbsp;They are trying to manipulate millions into mindless fear of anyone not like<br \/>\nthem while <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/storyonly\/2010\/2\/6\/834349\/-How-Dare-You-Say-We-Believe-This-Stuff!\">hiding it<\/a> from the rest of us.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>11.<\/b> They are allied with a large portion of big finance and<br \/>\nthe military industry.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">This does not mean we are on the verge of a fascist take<br \/>\nover, but it does mean we need to keep our eye on the ball. And any American<br \/>\nfascism would have a strong &#8220;conservative&#8221; Christian component.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Our political system is far more secure than the Weimar<br \/>\nRepublic was, in part because while we have a revolutionary right, like the<br \/>\nWeimar Republic did, unlike them, we have no significant revolutionary<br \/>\nleft.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>On the other hand, our<br \/>\nsystem is easier to push into chaos than was Weimar because it is<br \/>\ninstitutionally not well equipped to handle a large disciplined party seeking<br \/>\nto destroy the government, as the Republicans are. Weimar required communists<br \/>\nand Nazis working together to bring down.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Here the Republicans could do it themselves unless Democrats come to<br \/>\nunderstand what is afoot, and most so far appear too venal, isolated, and<br \/>\nself-absorbed to do so. <\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Our Founders and succeeding leaders of our genuine<br \/>\ntraditions have told us over and over again that &#8220;eternal vigilance is the<br \/>\nprice of freedom.&#8221;<span>&nbsp; <\/span>What we have<br \/>\ngoing for us is<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>1.<\/b> The younger an American is the more tolerant they are<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>2. <\/b>The younger Americans are the less truck they have to do<br \/>\nwith this kind of degenerate religion.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>3.<\/b> We have a far longer and more successful democratic<br \/>\ntradition than did the Weimar Republic and even in Europe before WWII many<br \/>\nfascist movements failed to come to power.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>4.<\/b> As I understand the Nazi rise, urban Germans far more<br \/>\nanti-Nazi than other Germans.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I<br \/>\nthink this was not accidental, and happily we are far more urban than Germany<br \/>\nwas.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Cities breed tolerance.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>So does higher education, and a great<br \/>\nmany young Americans have gone to college.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">So I am not simply being an alarmist.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>But I think it is very important to<br \/>\npush back strongly to attacks on us, to call them what they are, to defend<br \/>\ncivilized values against home grown barbarians who hold them in contempt.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Notice the reactions of most of the Christian who took the<br \/>\ntime to respond to the post on the desecration of a Pagan site at the Air Force<br \/>\nAcademy.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They tended &#8211; with some<br \/>\nwonderful and principled exceptions &#8211; to<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"webkit-indent-blockquote\"><p><b>A<\/b>. place blame on us for intolerance and even &#8220;hate&#8221; without<br \/>\never copping to intolerance or hate themselves or in their communities.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>This was so prevalent as to be<br \/>\nstriking.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>This tactic turns<br \/>\nattention away from Christian right misbehavior by focusing on us as the bad<br \/>\nguys.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>It is standard right wing<br \/>\noperating procedure &#8211; as when Kerry was attacked in terms of his service during<br \/>\nVietnam, while never mentioning Bush&#8217;s avoidance of service.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Basically, accuse the opposition of<br \/>\ndoing what you are guilty of doing.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"webkit-indent-blockquote\"><p><b>B<\/b>. deny we are really a religion or really worth taking<br \/>\nseriously.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"webkit-indent-blockquote\"><p><b>C<\/b> say we practice evil.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"webkit-indent-blockquote\"><p><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">This is an attempt, deliberate or otherwise, to frame the<br \/>\nterms of the discussion so that WE are on the defensive.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>If they succeed, people remember us as<br \/>\nthe problem, not the acts of desecration.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>It is important that this not happen.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The solution is to push back, and push back hard.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Not with lies, but in ways that<br \/>\nemphasize we are not the threat, they are.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>That we are not intolerant, they are.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>That we are not trouble makers, they<br \/>\nare.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>That we are not<br \/>\nanti-American, they are.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>And more<br \/>\nand more I think it important to try to separate them from the larger Christian<br \/>\ncommunity of decent people.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Related to this, get involved in interfaith work, where we<br \/>\nmeet Christians and others who are fine with working with people of different<br \/>\nfaith traditions.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>This is a very<br \/>\ngood corrective to any tendency to demonize all Christians or any other faith<br \/>\ntradition.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>There is wisdom in them<br \/>\nall in my view.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>One of the best<br \/>\nmoments in my life was helping to organize an interfaith tree planting of<br \/>\nnative oaks in the Berkeley Hills by the Berkeley Area Interfaith Council.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Each faith tradition did their own<br \/>\nplanting in their own way, but we all did it together on the same day.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">This does not mean we need to become political organizers or<br \/>\nanything of the sort, but I think it does mean we need to be strong defenders<br \/>\nof our path as worthy of respect by everyone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Two books that did a lot to shape my thinking are<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>Claudia Koonz: <\/b><i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Nazi-Conscience-Claudia-Koonz\/dp\/0674018427\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1265500599&amp;sr=1-1\"><b>The Nazi Conscience<\/b><\/a><\/i> (which explains how<br \/>\nGermany was transformed by Nazis into a society where the stuff that happened<br \/>\ncould happen.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Pay particular<br \/>\nattention to the role of the media.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>I think it is the single most important book for our purposes.)&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>Robert O. Paxton, <\/b><i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Robert-O.-Paxton\/e\/B0034NR4HW\/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1265500716&amp;sr=1-1\"><b>The Anatomy of Fascism<\/b><\/a><\/i> (The best general<br \/>\nstudy of fascism across cultures that I know of.)&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment-->\n<\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a comment on my &#8220;Spiritual Warrior&#8221; post Rombald suggested I was too concerned about the longevity of America&#8217;s religious liberty. &nbsp;Here is my answer, because to do the issue credit took me beyond a simple reply.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[111,9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-491","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-current-events","category-social-and-political-theory"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>My Reply to Rombald About the Security of American Freedom - A Pagan&#039;s Blog<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2010\/02\/my-reply-to-rombald-about-the-security-of-american-freedom.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"My Reply to Rombald About the Security of American Freedom - A Pagan&#039;s Blog\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"In a comment on my &#8220;Spiritual Warrior&#8221; 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