{"id":371,"date":"2009-09-15T18:34:14","date_gmt":"2009-09-15T18:34:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2009\/09\/liberalism-a-pagan-perspective-part-ii.html"},"modified":"2009-09-15T18:34:14","modified_gmt":"2009-09-15T18:34:14","slug":"liberalism-a-pagan-perspective-part-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/09\/liberalism-a-pagan-perspective-part-ii.html","title":{"rendered":"Liberalism: A Pagan Perspective, Part II."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Liberals have often been accused of relying on an overly individualistic idea of who we are.&nbsp; Liberals answer they are well aware we have social sides, but they (and their ritics) rarely question the nature of the individual self.&nbsp; I think the Christian concept of a unitary self influenced by its environment but fundamentally distinct from it has colored and confused most all liberal thought.<br \/>&nbsp;&nbsp;<span><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nI think our selves are like a<br \/>\nphoton in one interesting respect.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They appear to be a<br \/>\nparticle when asked some questions, and a wave spread out over space when other<br \/>\nquestions are asked.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>This fits a<br \/>\nPagan view much better than the self as little atom view does.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Here is a<br \/>\nthought experiment.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Think of<br \/>\nyourself.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Now remove one of your<br \/>\nidentifying external traits and replace it with a different one.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Your family life is very different,<br \/>\nwith different siblings and perhaps parents who divorced if they didn&#8217;t, or<br \/>\ndidn&#8217;t if they did.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Your<br \/>\nprofession is different.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Whatever.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>You still can easily think of yourself as being the &#8216;same&#8217; person, but<br \/>\nwith a difference.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Yet the longer<br \/>\nyou live the greater difference that divergence will have on who you are. In<br \/>\nsome sense you would still be you,<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>but in another sense you&#8217;d be different.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Now, what would be the case if every one of<br \/>\nthose external dimensions of who you are changed? You were adopted by a<br \/>\ndifferent family into a different culture, speaking a different language and<br \/>\npracticing a different religion, and so on.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>When every external detail changes, &#8216;you&#8217; no longer<br \/>\nexist.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Yet what is &#8216;you&#8217; is most<br \/>\nimportantly yur inner sense of self and inner character.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Internal and external are not really<br \/>\nseparate.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>You are what you are because you are a central node in an extraordinarily<br \/>\ncomplex array of relationships.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Every<br \/>\nrelationship manifests a quality of existence.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>As the African proverb states, &#8220;I am because we are&#8221; but the<br \/>\n&#8220;we&#8221; goes beyond even the human community.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>It includes our ancestors, our evolutionary history, in a<br \/>\nsense, it includes the world.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I<br \/>\nthink it&#8217;s relationships, &#8220;all the way down.&#8221;<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>To me,<br \/>\nthis perspective does not make the individual disappear or decline in moral<br \/>\nvalue.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I think it ennobles the<br \/>\nindividual and increases his or her intrinsic worth as a truly unique<br \/>\nexpression of the ways in which complex value manifests in the world.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Months ago during National Poetry Week<br \/>\nI offered <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2009\/04\/my-favorite-poem.html\">a fragment from a poem<\/a> by Yevgeny Yevtushenko as the poem that most<br \/>\ninfluenced how I view the world.&nbsp; Yevtushenko<br \/>\nprobably describes this image I am trying to communicate better than any thing<br \/>\nI can write.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Each of us is a<br \/>\ncreator and manifestation of a world of experience, of a quality of life.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>In an alive universe of Sacred Immanence such as I have experienced &#8211;<br \/>\nand I think is most in harmony with a Pagan outlook &#8211;<span>&nbsp; <\/span>anything conceivable has some degree of existece, some<br \/>\ndegree of awareness.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>When many<br \/>\ncome together they form a greater gestalt that is a &#8216;self,&#8217; from the<br \/>\ndown-and-out guy asking for donations, to the richest CEO and wisest Elder.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>The<br \/>\nmore connected we are to any given quality the more we are linked with other<br \/>\nmanifestations of it.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I suspect<br \/>\nthis is why those who obsess the most abut the failings of others so often seem<br \/>\nto show the same failings themselves. I suspect this is also why an injustice<br \/>\nto any sends its own vibrations throughout existence. I sometimes think that<br \/>\nthe universal spiritual emphasis, at least among genuine religious traditions,<br \/>\nof centering, quieting the heart, love, forgiveness, peace &#8211; the terms are<br \/>\nmanifold &#8211; enable us to act as dampeners on the damage these acts do.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>(It is also why I find writing a blog<br \/>\nwhere I need to post almost every day, and know more about politics than most<br \/>\nother things so I write on it, spiritually a very challenging task.)<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/span>Equally, it is why growing peace in our own heart send out its own<br \/>\nimpact elsewhere.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>So by virtue of the links with others that taken collectively make us<br \/>\nwho we are, we are linked with everything else.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>We are<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Indra%27s_net\"> beads in Indra&#8217;s net<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Indra%27s_net\"><\/a><br \/>\nbut often without the self-awareness to notice the net, or the reflections in<br \/>\nwho we are.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>And some beads are<br \/>\ncloser than others, even if everything is reflected in them all.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>So I<br \/>\nthink a Pagan perspective can enrich liberalism, and free it decisively from<br \/>\nits Christian rooted disconnect with the world and with other people.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The next part of this mini-essay will explore how a Pagan perspective<br \/>\nheals the separation of people from the world.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I&#8217;ll discuss Baruch&#8217;s point he made in Part I as well.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><br \/>\n<!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Liberals have often been accused of relying on an overly individualistic idea of who we are.&nbsp; Liberals answer they are well aware we have social sides, but they (and their ritics) rarely question the nature of the individual self.&nbsp; 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