{"id":361,"date":"2009-09-05T13:25:03","date_gmt":"2009-09-05T13:25:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2009\/09\/a-pagan-take-on-conservatisms-contribution-to-modern-irrationality-part-ii.html"},"modified":"2009-09-05T13:25:03","modified_gmt":"2009-09-05T13:25:03","slug":"a-pagan-take-on-conservatisms-contribution-to-modern-irrationality-part-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/09\/a-pagan-take-on-conservatisms-contribution-to-modern-irrationality-part-ii.html","title":{"rendered":"A Pagan Take on Conservatism&#8217;s Contribution to Modern Irrationality. Part II."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span><b>The Second Tragic Flaw<\/b><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><br \/>Most conservatives<br \/>\nhave realized that the integral Old Order can never be re-established, and many would not want to now if they could.&nbsp; Modernity&#8217;s material advantages are too great.&nbsp; Instead they sing the praises of &#8216;traditional religion&#8217; in today&#8217;s world as providing<br \/>\nsociety&#8217;s needed moral ballast.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>This religion is the scriptural transcendental monopolistic masculine monotheistic religion that initially generated the cultural crisis conservatives were trying to resolve. &nbsp; This religion was to counteract secular<br \/>\nmodernity&#8217;s own tendency itself to degenerate into nihilism.<\/p>\n<p>Nihilism is the belief that the universe is meaningless, no values are intrinsically better than any others, and power, by default, is the only reliable arbiter of differences.<br \/><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><!--EndFragment--><br \/>\n<span><span><\/span><\/span><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nIn making their case, conservative arguments in favor of religion utilized<br \/>\nmodernity&#8217;s rational, evidence-based thinking rather than arguments rooted in<br \/>\n<i>mythos<\/i>, in understanding the meaning <i>IN<\/i> life, the intrinsic value and meaning of things.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They adopted the style of reasoning<br \/>\nthat characterized the secular modernity they distrusted, trying to defend against<br \/>\nmodernity&#8217;s amoral implications by using its strongest tools against it.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><i>Bad things happen <\/i>if a society becomes irreligious,<br \/>\ntherefore society should be religious became a major conservative argument for religion.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>I want to make a small backtrack for a<br \/>\ncouple of paragraphs. to explain why this was an important and disastrous move.<span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><br \/><font><b><font><br \/>Modern Reason<\/font><\/b><\/font><span><font><b><font>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/font><\/b><\/font>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><br \/>Beginning<br \/>\nat least with the Enlightenment, growing numbers of political and religious<br \/>\nthinkers adopted modern reason and evidence as their primary means for accessing knowledge.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They chose to accept only evidence that could be observed, weighed, and<br \/>\nmeasured.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Inner realities were to<br \/>\nbe defended by evidence of the external senses and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Instrumental_rationality\">instrumental reasoning<\/a>.&nbsp;<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>This attitude spilled over into<br \/>\nreligion reasoning.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The Bible was<br \/>\ntrue and science could supposedly be used in its defense.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>This tactic opened defenders of Western religion to serious problems as<br \/>\nscience developed.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>How could<br \/>\npeople continue to believe when the evidence and reason both spoke increasingly<br \/>\nstrongly against any literal understanding of scripture?<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; Some fell away, other increasingly argued commitment and will could trump reason and evidence. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Thus, the conservative appeal to instrumental reason and empirical<br \/>\nevidence to win a point about the importance pf religion dealing with inner<br \/>\nmeaning was endorsing the narrowing of thinking that has undermined traditional<br \/>\nWestern religion in so many eyes.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>With every slash of the sword of reason and brick of evidence thrown<br \/>\nagainst their opponents, they cut and bruised themselves, whether they hit<br \/>\ntheir target or not.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Most people do not<br \/>\nadhere to a religion simply because they think it&#8217;s a good idea.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They adhere because they think it<br \/>\naccesses some aspect of truth and meaning better than any other approach they<br \/>\nknow. Yet this conservative argument was only a pragmatic one.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Religion may or may not be true, but<br \/>\nit&#8217;s socially advantageous.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>However, that argument does not work very well at the personal level.<br \/>\nTry accepting social peace as a reason to believe during a wrenching personal<br \/>\ncrisis or when on your death bed.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>When religion was freed from mythos<br \/>\nand linked to instrumental reason and empirical evidence, both of which then<br \/>\nundermined scriptural religion, the only path left open within traditional<br \/>\nscriptural monopolistic monotheism was the path of Commitment and Will:<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I make my commitment, and that&#8217;s<br \/>\nthat.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I rely on my will to<br \/>\novercome temptation.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>End of<br \/>\ndiscussion.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/span>When conservatism continued to support the central role of traditional<br \/>\nreligion after so many believers had made this final fateful move, I think conservatism<br \/>\nopened itself up to becoming its opposite.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Commitment and Will trumping reason and evidence are and<br \/>\nalways have been the territory of fanatics and utopians.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They undermine the respect for established<br \/>\nways of life and humility before a world we will never understand that had been<br \/>\ntraditional hallmarks of conservative thought.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>But one more step speeded up this<br \/>\ndegeneration in our day, to make what calls itself conservatism a philosophy of<br \/>\nnihilism.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>The Southern<br \/>\nConnection<\/b><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><br \/>Conservatism is<br \/>\nalways culturally specific regarding the mores, customs, and habits it defends.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>Conservatism always reflects its roots.&nbsp; After World War Two Northern<br \/>\nconservatives increasingly embraced their Southern conservative brethren without fully<br \/>\nappreciating that they came from different cultures. Both Northern and Southern<br \/>\nconservatives appeared to dislike &#8216;big government,&#8217; both emphasized the<br \/>\nimportance of scripturally based monopolistic transcendental masculine monotheism, and both had a<br \/>\nstrong racist element, but they looked at these issues from very different<br \/>\nperspectives.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>But the similarities<br \/>\nwere more superficial than the differences.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Northern culture had never rejected<br \/>\nthe principles underlying our Declaration of Independence,<span>&nbsp; <\/span>They saw themselves as defending them.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>However, major Southern leaders, such<br \/>\nas <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/John_C._Calhoun\">John C. Calhoun<\/a>&nbsp; and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Alexander_Stephens\">Alexander<br \/>\nStephens<\/a>,&nbsp; explicitly did.&nbsp; Southern opposition to national government did not grow from a belief in<br \/>\nlocal control or that government received its power from delegation by the<br \/>\npeople, it grew from a belief that after the Civil War they were a conquered<br \/>\nprovince, and so could only control things locally.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Therefore they wanted Washington to stay out.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Given access to Washington&#8217;s halls of<br \/>\npower, they had no compunction about centralizing power farther than ever<br \/>\nbefore.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>This explains why<br \/>\n&#8216;conservatives&#8217; in power under Bush rode roughshod over traditional principles<br \/>\nof American government, and now are shrilly exaggerating them once out of<br \/>\npower.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>It is hypocrisy from an<br \/>\nAmerican perspective, but not from a Southern one.<span> <\/span>Conservatives regarding<br \/>\nnational government when out of power, when given national power Southern<br \/>\nRepublican politicians were radicals with regard to the country as a<br \/>\nwhole because they did not really share Northern values about constitutional government..<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>More troubling yet, Dixies&#8217;s conservatives honored a culture that had deliberately turned its back<br \/>\non the Enlightenment, in order to embrace a literalist Biblical religion they<br \/>\ninterpreted as justifying slavery.&nbsp; This led to a difference between Southern and Northern Christianity that we see reflected today in the splits within Baptist churches.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>As I understand it, both northern and Southern Protestantism accepted the need to commit to Jesus, but the South, especially many Southern Baptists, included a commitment to the inerrancy of scripture.&nbsp; Dixie had been&nbsp; strongly shaped by a belief the Bible was literally true and<br \/>\nthat commitment and will trumped evidence and reason on religious issues.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Therefore their approach to the Bible<br \/>\nreplaced the principles of the American Revolution as the basic myth underlying<br \/>\ntheir society.<span>&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p><\/span>Crucially, the demands on commitment and will overriding reason and evidence increase dramatically when a specific interpretation of scripture is added to to a personal commitment to Jesus as your savior.&nbsp;&nbsp;<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Devotion to will and commitment trumping reason and evidence in religion spilled over<br \/>\ninto politics, undermining any real conservatism they might have had.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>By identifying itself with the<br \/>\nSouth, and incorporating Southern leaders into its ranks, American conservatism<br \/>\nwas turning itself inside out even more quickly than might otherwise have been<br \/>\nthe case.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p><\/span>I think that there are<br \/>\nso few real conservatives in today&#8217;s &#8220;conservative&#8221; movement of<br \/>\nradical utopians supports the basic accuracy of my analysis.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>It is not conservative any more, but<br \/>\nemerged from out of the internal weaknesses and contradictions within<br \/>\nconservatism.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>And these weaknesses<br \/>\nare often religiously based in their commitment to monopolistic scriptural<br \/>\nmonotheism as the only truly acceptable religion for America.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Conclusion<\/b><span><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>Conservatism contributed to the rise of Western nihilism because first,<br \/>\nit confused an appreciation of why religion is important with the monopolistic<br \/>\nclaims of a religion emphasizing only a slice of spiritual reality, excluding<br \/>\nthe feminine and the immanent,.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Such an approach could never carry the weight American conservatism<br \/>\nplaced on it.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Second,<br \/>\nconservatives accepted the Western model of knowledge as solely that which is<br \/>\nbased on scientific standards and when that failed to reinforce traditional<br \/>\nreligion, fell back on pragmatic arguments for religion&#8217;s utility.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>This led them to supporting those<br \/>\nparticularly in the South who argued for the power of Will and Commitment to<br \/>\novercome doubts raised by evidence and reason.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>When these people entered the political arena, conservatives<br \/>\nfound themselves in close alliance with a politics of Will and Commitment.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>I<br \/>\nthink this problem is almost entirely the result of considering religion and<br \/>\nmeaning in terms of a transcendental God removed from the world.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>When the Sacred is immanent, these<br \/>\nproblems wither away except for the fact that people intoxicated by power will<br \/>\nstill act in hideous ways.&nbsp; A conservatism that embraced a rich and diverse spiritual reality, one both Immanent and Transcendent, with the Sacred Feminine as equally important to the Sacred Masculine, would ironically be in a far <i>better <\/i>position to make its case against secular modernity.<span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>I will<br \/>\nsoon post an analysis of liberalism and how it also changes its appearance when<br \/>\nviewed from a Pagan perspective that recognizes Sacred Immanence and&nbsp;<br \/>\n<!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Second Tragic Flaw&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Most conservatives have realized that the integral Old Order can never be re-established, and many would not want to now if they could.&nbsp; Modernity&#8217;s material advantages are too great.&nbsp; Instead they sing the praises of &#8216;traditional religion&#8217; in today&#8217;s world as providing society&#8217;s needed moral ballast.&nbsp; This religion is the scriptural&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-361","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-pagan-news"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>A Pagan Take on Conservatism&#039;s Contribution to Modern Irrationality. Part II. - A Pagan&#039;s Blog<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/09\/a-pagan-take-on-conservatisms-contribution-to-modern-irrationality-part-ii.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"A Pagan Take on Conservatism&#039;s Contribution to Modern Irrationality. Part II. - A Pagan&#039;s Blog\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The Second Tragic Flaw&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Most conservatives have realized that the integral Old Order can never be re-established, and many would not want to now if they could.&nbsp; Modernity&#8217;s material advantages are too great.&nbsp; Instead they sing the praises of &#8216;traditional religion&#8217; in today&#8217;s world as providing society&#8217;s needed moral ballast.&nbsp; This religion is the scriptural&hellip;\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/09\/a-pagan-take-on-conservatisms-contribution-to-modern-irrationality-part-ii.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"A Pagan&#039;s Blog\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2009-09-05T13:25:03+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Gus diZerega\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"A Pagan Take on Conservatism's Contribution to Modern Irrationality. Part II. - A Pagan&#039;s Blog","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/09\/a-pagan-take-on-conservatisms-contribution-to-modern-irrationality-part-ii.html","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"A Pagan Take on Conservatism's Contribution to Modern Irrationality. Part II. - A Pagan&#039;s Blog","og_description":"The Second Tragic Flaw&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Most conservatives have realized that the integral Old Order can never be re-established, and many would not want to now if they could.&nbsp; Modernity&#8217;s material advantages are too great.&nbsp; Instead they sing the praises of &#8216;traditional religion&#8217; in today&#8217;s world as providing society&#8217;s needed moral ballast.&nbsp; This religion is the scriptural&hellip;","og_url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/09\/a-pagan-take-on-conservatisms-contribution-to-modern-irrationality-part-ii.html","og_site_name":"A Pagan&#039;s Blog","article_published_time":"2009-09-05T13:25:03+00:00","author":"Gus diZerega","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/09\/a-pagan-take-on-conservatisms-contribution-to-modern-irrationality-part-ii.html","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/09\/a-pagan-take-on-conservatisms-contribution-to-modern-irrationality-part-ii.html","name":"A Pagan Take on Conservatism's Contribution to Modern Irrationality. Part II. - A Pagan&#039;s Blog","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/#website"},"datePublished":"2009-09-05T13:25:03+00:00","dateModified":"2009-09-05T13:25:03+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/#\/schema\/person\/d94ab0155d2780a0526af373b5c543f2"},"breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/09\/a-pagan-take-on-conservatisms-contribution-to-modern-irrationality-part-ii.html#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/09\/a-pagan-take-on-conservatisms-contribution-to-modern-irrationality-part-ii.html"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/09\/a-pagan-take-on-conservatisms-contribution-to-modern-irrationality-part-ii.html#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"A Pagan Take on Conservatism&#8217;s Contribution to Modern Irrationality. Part II."}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/","name":"A Pagan&#039;s Blog","description":"Beliefnet Voices - Gus diZerega","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/#\/schema\/person\/d94ab0155d2780a0526af373b5c543f2","name":"Gus diZerega","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-content\/wphb-cache\/gravatar\/4f6\/4f6b5a87d91376eaf8d126df301ab8cdx96.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-content\/wphb-cache\/gravatar\/4f6\/4f6b5a87d91376eaf8d126df301ab8cdx96.jpg","caption":"Gus diZerega"},"url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/author\/gdizerega"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/361","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/9"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=361"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/361\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=361"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=361"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=361"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}