{"id":354,"date":"2009-08-29T13:17:13","date_gmt":"2009-08-29T13:17:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2009\/08\/the-fundamentalist-sources-of-american-irrationalism.html"},"modified":"2009-08-29T13:17:13","modified_gmt":"2009-08-29T13:17:13","slug":"the-fundamentalist-sources-of-american-irrationalism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/08\/the-fundamentalist-sources-of-american-irrationalism.html","title":{"rendered":"The Fundamentalist Sources of American Irrationalism?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I just came across a fascinating anecdote that might shed light on something that has long fascinated and horrified me about my country.&nbsp; At a recent town-hall meeting in Iowa a local weekly <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2009\/08\/28\/iraq-map-townhall\/\">quizzed attendees as to whether or not they could find Iraq on a map<\/a>.&nbsp; The reporter asked 40 pro-reform attendees and 40 anti-reform attendees.&nbsp; Those of us who are pro-reform can take pleasure in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.omahacityweekly.com\/article\/2009\/08\/27\/web-exclusive-map-quest-town-hall\">paper&#8217;s report<\/a> that<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>a full 75%, 30 of 40 pro-reform attendees, could identify Iraq in its rather eye-catching, dead center position on the map.&nbsp; Only 52.5%, 21 of 40 anti-reformers, could do so.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But I want to focus on something else in the story, something more interesting and more worrisome.<\/p>\n<p><span><\/span><span><strong><span style=\"font-weight: normal\"><span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/span><!--EndFragment--><br \/>\n<span><strong><span style=\"font-weight: normal\"><span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/span><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"font-weight: normal\">Even those pro-reform<br \/>\nattendees who could not find Iraq on the map were good humored about their<br \/>\nfailure.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The reporter recieved <\/span>no<\/strong><strong><span style=\"font-weight: normal\"> negative comments from them or any of the pro-reform participants.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>But among the anti-reform attendees,&nbsp; <\/span><\/strong><span><\/span>&#8220;Many sneered.&nbsp; Most at least glowered.&nbsp; Four accused the test itself of being somehow biased.&#8221;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>The two crowds were demonstrably different in their reaction to other people and to requests for information.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>One of the most frustrating<br \/>\naspects of modern American politics is the steadily lowering level of public<br \/>\ndebate, mostly by the loony right.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>The entire premise of democracy is that average citizens, even if not<br \/>\nexperts on issues, are open to rational debate and evaluation of different<br \/>\nproposals.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>If not all of them,<br \/>\nthen enough to offset the mindless, who hopefully will be distributed more or<br \/>\nless equally across the spectrum.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>I have been trying to understand why that<br \/>\nno longer seems to be the case, and came up with what may be an explanation<br \/>\nwhile discussing all sorts of issue with friends one evening this week.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Conservative Christianity<br \/>\nhas made a virtue of faith and will power trumping reason and facts for many<br \/>\ndecades. These have always been elements of Christian orthodoxy, but they have been buffered by concern with other values during much of Christian history.&nbsp; At least in the US, only among conservative Fundamentalist groups have these attitudes seemed to steam roll over every other consideration among a great many (not all, thank the Gods) believers. &nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>These people are taught to distrust reason as a tool of the devil, and<br \/>\ndistrust evidence as equally misleading.<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>The world is full of demonic traps for the unwary, and only blind faith and an indomintable will-to-believe are sure safeguards against Satan&#8217;s wiles.&nbsp; As one very nice Fundamentalist woman told me, fossils are evidence of<br \/>\nGod&#8217;s &#8220;sense of humor.&#8221;<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I<br \/>\nrefrained from pointing out that this cosmic joker would then sentence anyone<br \/>\ntaken in by his &#8216;jokes&#8217; to eternity in hell.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Subjecting our most fond beliefs to reason and<br \/>\nevidence is hard work.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Even when<br \/>\nwe conscientiously try and subject our beliefs to the same standards we hold<br \/>\nfor others, we often make mistakes, and in retrospect discover gaping blind<br \/>\nspots in our awareness.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>(I speak<br \/>\nfrom personal experience.)<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Being<br \/>\nopen to reason and facts is challenging.&nbsp; It is also respect for truth, admission of fallibility, and evidences a regard for people other than carbon copies of oneself.<span> &nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>A entire culture trained to<br \/>\ndistrust reason and facts as even evil when applied to their deepest<br \/>\nbeliefs is a culture where we can truthfully wonder whether they are capable of<br \/>\ndemocratic self government rather than mobocracy.&nbsp; I would argue they are not.&nbsp; The states they dominate are not like Iran because they exist within the American constitutional framework.&nbsp; They are nice people in many cases, but they are not very good citizens of a free society. &nbsp;<span> &nbsp; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>The rapid surge of Fundamentalists into active involvement in American<br \/>\npolitics began under Nixon.&nbsp; Since then we have suffered an enormous pollution of political<br \/>\ndiscourse from people lacking the skills to engage in it, but engaging in it enthusiastically nonetheless.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The future of our country may well depend on whether they<br \/>\ncan learn to relate to people who disagree with them with anything other than<br \/>\nhostility and self-righteousness.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>If American democracy declines even further from its Founders&#8217; hopes. It<br \/>\nwill be at least in part because of Fundamentalist Christianity and the totalitarian habits of<br \/>\nmind it encourages.&nbsp; If it somehow survives these people it will be because over time they will have learned the responsibilities and skills required for citizenship in a democracy.<\/p>\n<p>I imagine I will be denounced here by some as a bigot for making this argument.&nbsp; To those who denounce me I ask- where are the prominent liberal commentators who urge people to carry guns to Republican gatherings?&nbsp; Where were the liberal crowds who tried to shout down George Bush, or current Republican hacks? &nbsp; Where are the leading liberal politicians who made up lies out of whole cloth such a &#8220;death panels,&#8221; &#8220;death books&#8221; and lack of birth certificates?&nbsp; They did and do not exist.<br \/><!--[endif]--><br \/>\n<!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I just came across a fascinating anecdote that might shed light on something that has long fascinated and horrified me about my country.&nbsp; At a recent town-hall meeting in Iowa a local weekly quizzed attendees as to whether or not they could find Iraq on a map.&nbsp; The reporter asked 40 pro-reform attendees and 40&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[111,9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-354","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-current-events","category-social-and-political-theory"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Fundamentalist Sources of American Irrationalism? 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