{"id":172,"date":"2009-02-17T13:43:17","date_gmt":"2009-02-17T13:43:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/apagansblog\/2009\/02\/more-discussion-on-spirit-and-buying-local.html"},"modified":"2009-02-17T13:43:17","modified_gmt":"2009-02-17T13:43:17","slug":"more-discussion-on-spirit-and-buying-local","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/02\/more-discussion-on-spirit-and-buying-local.html","title":{"rendered":"More Discussion on Spirit and Buying Local"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I will return to <a href=\"http:\/\/pantheacon.com\/09\/index.php\">Pantheacon<\/a>&nbsp;&nbsp; issues shortly, but Holly Liebowitz Rossi over at <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/freshliving\/\">Fresh Living<\/a>&nbsp;&nbsp; wonders whether I am <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/freshliving\/2009\/02\/is-buying-local-spiritual.html\">using the word &#8216;spiritual&#8217; appropriately<\/a> in my blog on shopping locally.&nbsp; This gives me an opportunity to explore this interesting question a bit more.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nIn mainstream Western culture &#8216;spirituality&#8217; has generally been separated from the material world.&nbsp; They are two orders of existence, one higher than the other.&nbsp; Radical secularists just chop off the higher level, and voila! We are in the midst of a world of things, valuable only for our subjective utility.&nbsp; We are radically alone in the universe, but in consolation, we have lots of stuff.&nbsp; Economists are the new high priests, and when the God fo the Market is happy with us, we are awash in stuff.<\/p>\n<p>Hunting and gathering peoples, and the Pagan traditions that grew from them blend these levels of spirit and the world about us.&nbsp; They do so in different ways, but all believe the world of spirit is not radically separate from our day to day existence.&nbsp; NeoPagans generally share this outlook.<\/p>\n<p>From a NeoPagan perspective we do not live in a world of things valued only for their utility.&nbsp; We live in a world of relationships, and from those relationships comes utility, among much else.&nbsp; If you are not sure what I mean, think of friendship to get my point.&nbsp; Friends are useful, but if I value someone for their usefulness, I am not their friend.&nbsp; In this sense Holly is spot on in noticing I connect spirituality with community, but in her more critical remarks I suspect still assumes our culture&#8217;s division between spirit and the world.<\/p>\n<p>American society values nothing for itself.&nbsp; For me that is its major shortcoming.&nbsp; For many Americans not even human beings matter much, given their support of torture and bland acceptance of children&#8217;s deaths as &#8220;collateral damage&#8221; in wartime.&nbsp; In such a place getting into a frame of mind where we are aware of immersion in a world of relationships is difficult.&nbsp; If we think of ourselves as &#8216;consumers,&#8217; it is impossible. <\/p>\n<p>Treating buying locally as an important principle is a first practical step into this wider sense of relatedness with all around us.&nbsp; It need not mean I only buy locally.&nbsp; As one of my commenters in my previous blog pointed out, even local merchants sell things made far away, and for most of us that is a good thing. Few are rich and prices do matter.&nbsp; My argument is not to ignore these things, but not to let them slweays override the less obvious relationships we have with our community, a community that properly understood extends in concentric rings to encompass ever the universe.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I will return to Pantheacon&nbsp;&nbsp; issues shortly, but Holly Liebowitz Rossi over at Fresh Living&nbsp;&nbsp; wonders whether I am using the word &#8216;spiritual&#8217; appropriately in my blog on shopping locally.&nbsp; This gives me an opportunity to explore this interesting question a bit more.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[106,105,108],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-172","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-pagan-culture","category-pagan-spirituality","category-spirituality"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>More Discussion on Spirit and Buying Local - A Pagan&#039;s Blog<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/02\/more-discussion-on-spirit-and-buying-local.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"More Discussion on Spirit and Buying Local - A Pagan&#039;s Blog\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"I will return to Pantheacon&nbsp;&nbsp; issues shortly, but Holly Liebowitz Rossi over at Fresh Living&nbsp;&nbsp; wonders whether I am using the word &#8216;spiritual&#8217; appropriately in my blog on shopping locally.&nbsp; This gives me an opportunity to explore this interesting question a bit more.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/02\/more-discussion-on-spirit-and-buying-local.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"A Pagan&#039;s Blog\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2009-02-17T13:43:17+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Gus diZerega\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"More Discussion on Spirit and Buying Local - A Pagan&#039;s Blog","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/02\/more-discussion-on-spirit-and-buying-local.html","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"More Discussion on Spirit and Buying Local - A Pagan&#039;s Blog","og_description":"I will return to Pantheacon&nbsp;&nbsp; issues shortly, but Holly Liebowitz Rossi over at Fresh Living&nbsp;&nbsp; wonders whether I am using the word &#8216;spiritual&#8217; appropriately in my blog on shopping locally.&nbsp; This gives me an opportunity to explore this interesting question a bit more.","og_url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/02\/more-discussion-on-spirit-and-buying-local.html","og_site_name":"A Pagan&#039;s Blog","article_published_time":"2009-02-17T13:43:17+00:00","author":"Gus diZerega","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/02\/more-discussion-on-spirit-and-buying-local.html","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/02\/more-discussion-on-spirit-and-buying-local.html","name":"More Discussion on Spirit and Buying Local - A Pagan&#039;s Blog","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/#website"},"datePublished":"2009-02-17T13:43:17+00:00","dateModified":"2009-02-17T13:43:17+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/#\/schema\/person\/d94ab0155d2780a0526af373b5c543f2"},"breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/02\/more-discussion-on-spirit-and-buying-local.html#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/02\/more-discussion-on-spirit-and-buying-local.html"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/2009\/02\/more-discussion-on-spirit-and-buying-local.html#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"More Discussion on Spirit and Buying Local"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/","name":"A Pagan&#039;s Blog","description":"Beliefnet Voices - Gus diZerega","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/#\/schema\/person\/d94ab0155d2780a0526af373b5c543f2","name":"Gus diZerega","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-content\/wphb-cache\/gravatar\/4f6\/4f6b5a87d91376eaf8d126df301ab8cdx96.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-content\/wphb-cache\/gravatar\/4f6\/4f6b5a87d91376eaf8d126df301ab8cdx96.jpg","caption":"Gus diZerega"},"url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/author\/gdizerega"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/172","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/9"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=172"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/172\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=172"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=172"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/apagansblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=172"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}