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Thomas W. Glenn Jr.
Tommy was a wonderful man. He was charming, intelligent, charismatic and good-hearted. He could always put a smile on your face.


This prayer circle is for all of those who are suffering from the disease of addiction, dealing with a family members addiction, or those of us who have lost a loved one to addiction. In loving memory of Tommy. September 2,1975-January 27,2001. God Bless


This prayer circle is in memory of Thomas W. Glenn Jr. Tommy was an intelligent, articulate, charming and good-hearted young man. His life ended short at the young age of 25. A true genius, the things he could have achieved if given the chance. On a cold Januay morning he passed away from "bad heroin". His family and loved ones miss him desperately and need prayers. Also, in honor of Tommy the prayers are being said for all of those suffering from the disease drug addiction, families dealing with addiction and loved ones of those who have passed on due to addiction. Tom was a conquerer, if this could beat him...it could beat anyone. Please help one another. Please Lord, give me the strength to continue to fight for this cause. God bless you.

WE LOVE YOU TOM!!!

Tom, you are in the Lords hands now and one day we will meet again For now, I pray for you all the peace and happiness in heaven.


 
renee25 -6/28/2001
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help4myfamily
10/31/2003 15:54

Good Friday Afternoon to all,
Yes, it is me and I am alive and doing ok. I have read your posts and prayers daily and have kept you all in my daily prayers. All week long I have fallen asleep talking to God. Sorry I havenít posted anything in awhile, but I havenít known what to say. It seems that when I come to this site it has always been to complain about a Brian situation and I have never been able to give a testimony to help anyone else like the rest of you have and can, so I thought I would just pray silently for everyone and hope that God hears the request of us all. Even now, after reading everything, I just canít think of anything to say to try to help anyone. God, please give me some guidance here so I know what to say. I have never been able to go out and witness to people about God, and I wish I knew why. BA sorry to hear about you being sick. I had the same stuff for about 10 days and it took everything I had to make it to work, so I can understand how you have felt. I am so glad you are feeling better, I have been praying for you. Quigley I hope that things are going better for you and Brett. I can hear my own voice about the problems Brian and I have when I read your post. I hope that we both can get our lives together and be happy. Kris I hope you are feeling better. Take care of yourself and thanks for the prayers and thoughts. Cindy/Angel I pray that your back is feeling better. I hope everyone else is doing well. Joni, I pray that your daughter is doing better and that you are able to trust that God will see you all through this. Cindy I hope that all is well with your dad and that your sons are remaining strong. I hope you all have a safe and happy weekend. God bless you all and thanks for your prayers. Love you all, Bonnie


littlecreeksparrowdance
10/31/2003 16:24

cindy;hey,so sorry to hear you are having so much trouble with your back,and i knowthat can be so very painful.i do hope and praythat you will get well soon. have they told you anything about what they may have to do. a few years ago, i had a rupture disc in my lower l 5 and they did surgery and they had found a bulging disc on the t12 , and i refused to let them do surgery , because they said it is to close to nerves there, so honey i will take my chances.AND YES INDEED , THAT IS AMAZING HOW GOD BROUGHT THAT CONFIRMATION BETWEEN US ON THE CHAPTER OF MATTHEW 13: AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THE REST OF THAT CHAPTER IN. IT IS A POWERFUL CHAPTER , AND THE WHOLE STORY NEEDS TO BE REVEALED. I WAS SO VERY HURT BY QUIGLEY AND UPSET, THAT AS I SAID , I ALMOST DID'NT POST, BUT I KEPT BEING LED TO COME AND PUT THAT CHAPTER IN , AND CONFRONT QUIGLEY WITH THE TRUTH. AS YOU SAID, ALL WE CAN DO AND WE HAVE DONE IDS CONTINUE AND TO PLANT SEEDS AND IT IS UP TO THOSE WHO INTERCEDES THEM ON WHICH SOIL IT IS GOING TO FALL ON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND YOU ARE SO RIGHT, BECAUSE I LOVE MY LORD SO VERY MUCH AND I GET LIKE A BULL IN A CHINA CABINET WHEN IT COMES TO HIM . I STAND BY HIM , I LOVE HIM WHOLEHEARTLY, AND HIS WILL IN ME IS SO AMAZING AND I FEEL SO BLESSED EACH DAY WHEN HE GIVES US THE WORDS TO SPEASK AND TO SPEAK THEM SO CLEARLY AND SOUNDLY. I WILL WRITE MORE WHENNI GET BACK FROM THE GAME, NEPHEW NEXT TO LAST , SO WE ARE ALL GOING TO SEE THAT, MOMMA IS GOING TO BE HERE ABOUT 4:30 OR 5 AND WE ARE GOING TO MEET AT MY DAUGHTER'S AND SON-IN-LAW AND GO FROM THERE. LOVE YA LOTS, KRIS.


littlecreeksparrowdance
10/31/2003 16:25

I WILL ANWSER EACH OF YOU WHEN I GET BACK.LOVE,KRIS


QUIGLEY
10/31/2003 16:29

Kris,

I almost got back on yesterday to tell you that I don't want to sound ungrateful - I do appreciate your friendship and how much you care - but I didn't have a chance. I'mm sorry if I hurt you - I didn't mean to. I care about you and love you too - please accept my apologies - Have a good time at the football game and a good Halloween. Again, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. Your Friend Always

Dear Lord,

I pray that you watch over Taylor this weekend while she is at her dads. Help me to be the best mom possible. I pray that you continue to help Brett and I understand one another and learn to be patient w/ each other. I pray for the willpower to stay sober - and I thank you Lord for the friends I have here on this site. If it is your will that Brett and I not be together, I pray that I can see that is the case and I will be strong enough to do what is best for taylor and I. Amen


littlecreeksparrowdance
11/1/2003 02:06

HEY EVERYONE, JUST GOT BACK FROM THE GAME. IT'S 1:00A.M. AND I AM PRETTY TIRED FROM THE LONG RIDE , BUT IT WAS SO WORTH IT. THEY WON THEIR DISTRICT GAME AGAISNT THEIR RIVALS AND TOUGHEST COMPETIORS, YES YES YES!!!!!!!! THEY BEAT ST. MARY;S BY 26 TO 14. IT WAS AN AWESOME GAME, ONE OF THOSE THAT KEPT YOU ONNYOUR FEET AND THE EDGE OF YOUR SEAT. HA!THE COACH DECIDED NOT TO USE JOSHUA,HE PLAYED ,BUT THEY DID'NT THROW THE BALL OR GIVE HIM ANY RUNNING TIME LIKE THEY USALLY DO, AND THE COACH'S REASON BY NOT LETTING JOSHUA BE SO MUCH THE MAIN ONE , BECAUSE HE IS THE MAIN AND #1 RECEIVER AND THE OTHER TEAMS KNOW THAT AND THEY WILL BE TRIPLE TEAMING HIM LIKE THEY DO AND GUNNING FOR HIM, SO THEY KINDA WANTED TO KEEP IT SAFE WITH HIM , WWHICH IS REALLY UNFAIR IN A WAY, BECAUSE HE WAS WIDE OPEN AT TIMES AND , AS THEY SAID THOUGH THEY WERE RIGHT ON HIM TOO. THEY HAVE ONE MORE GAME TO GO , AND IT LOOKS LIKE LASALLE WILL BE HEADING FOR THE STATE PLAYOFFS IN THE SUPERDOME IN NEWORLEANS. YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A SAFE HOLLOWEEN. IT IS NOT ONE OF MY FAVORITE HOLIDAYS, IN FACT I HATE IT, BUT IT IS GOOD FOR THE CHILDREN,AND OTHER THAN THAT, I DONT CELEBRATE HALLOWEEN.WELL, LET ME CLOSE THIS OUT , AND THEN I WILL COME BACK AND ANWSER EVERYONE , AND I HAVE A FEW THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN HERE. I LOVE YOU ALL VERY MUCH AND YALL ARE IN MY HEART. KRIS


AngleEthan
11/3/2003 08:59

GOOD MORNING!!
Do you love the Lord? Then you have testimony!
Do you have a child, or children? They are gifts from our Lord! Do you not have testimony?
Do you have two eyes to see? Do you not have testimony?
Do you have two hands, feet, arms, legs? Do you not have testimony?
Do you have help when you call on the Name of our Father? Do you not have testimony?
Do you have shelter, food, clothing all things needed to sustain life? Do you not have testimony?
By the GRACE OF GOD - there go I!!!! Do you NOT have testimony?
Love to all
God Bless you and keep you-
You are all in my prayers
Love,
Cindy


quigley
11/3/2003 13:43

Morning all,

Wasn't ready for Monday but here it is. Had a fun Halloween except twisted my knee really bad and now I'm limping around everywhere. Other than that - it was a pretty uneventful weekend. Brett is in court this morning because his exwife filed contempt charges for not paying her spousal support. he's been fighting her in court for 4 years trying to get the amount dropped and now he owes her over $10,000.00 (he does pay her the child support) they also want to suspend his license because of owing over $10,000. Sometimes, I think this thing w/ her will never end. I just hope they don't throw him in jail for it. Hope everyone had a good Halloween -
Bonnie,I know it's tough when you love someone and you can't control their actions - you didn't reallyy say how things were going w/ Brian - I hope he's staying off the drugs - I feel the same way sometimes as far as getting on here and having all these problems - I start to feel selfish talking about myself so much but I know that is what we are all here for is to pray for one another. Kris, you sound like a very proud aunt - and sounds like you had fun. BA, hope you're doing okay w/ work, school and staying sober - I'm running out of time, so I need to cut this short - one of these days I will get a computer at home. Love you all

Dear Lord,

Thank you for keeping us safe this weekend - I pray that you can be w/ Brett this morning and I pray soon that these court battles will end for him. Until then please give him the strength to endure the stress.

Please help Brian to stay sober and off the drugs and give Bonnie the strength and faith it takes to deal with the situation; I pray that BA and I can stay sober - and keep our willpower against alcohol - help Kris' health to improve and keep her strong - thank you for giving me friends on this site that love and care about me. I pray that you can help me focus on my job today - even tho I'm tired and to make the right career choice on whether to find a job that pays better or not. And last but not least, I pray that Brett and I can keep communicating and understanding one another - I pray that he can learn to deal with his stress in a way that doesn't affect our relationship. Amen.


jonilnowm
11/3/2003 16:19

Hello everyone:
Sorry I haven't been on here to post for a few days but I have been in the middle of a major crisis with my daughter. We go to family night at her rehab program every Tues and this Tues her counsellor told us her urine tested positve for heroin and cocaine. John's parents were not going to be home for the weekend and expressed concern for the baby so we went ahead and filed for temporary custody in family court on Wed. This did NOT go over well with anyone in that house!!! We have the baby (Christian) until the hearing on NOV 14. Everyone said we over-reacted and Rachael's results came back positive because she is taking pain medication for her kidney stone and the ER doctor told her that her steroid inhaler can also show up as positive on a test. Her counsellors said her urine leaked three times and that is highly unlikely. If you don't seal the cup correctly and it leaks in the bag--they can't test it. She then tested positive. She says they are sloppy with handling the tests and her traces are minimal. John's parents think they are both doing better. I am sick about getting the court involved because now they want a DYFS investigator to monitor the whole thing. I have heard so many horror stories about how corrupt and inept DYFS is and that they may pull our grandson away from us and give him to strangers... I have to trust that the LORD will work in this impossible situation. Rachael still won't even admit that she has a problem--it's all John's fault and now it's MY fault for getting DYFS involved. Rachael and John have been going to meetings every day all of a sudden and Rachael even went to a born again bible believing church on Sunday before she came to see the baby. He has been sick all week last week and we had to pull him away from her when she had to go home. It was really heartbreaking but that too is a wake up call!!! Please lift us all up in prayer. My husband took this whole week off and I was out three days last week and things in my job are also overwhelming now. I will try to write tomorrow. This is my work e-mail and I try to write when I am on a break or lunch etc. I was supposed to leave long ago but I did not want more time to elapse without filling you guys in so you will know how to lift us up in prayer. I thank my God upon every rembrance of all of you...

With HIS Love,
Joni


BAPETNUT
11/4/2003 02:13

Good evening to All:
I am alive and very very busy with work, school, home etc..I have been drinking a beer here and there again but I dont care, Im NOT a drunk anymore so a beer here and there doesnt seem to be a problem inless I abuse it. Too Cindy, Yes I agree and I have all the following, 2 eyes, 2 arms, 2 legs, 1 heart, I Love the Lord, I have shelter, I have his help when I call upon him, I may drink a beer now and then but Im very happy with my life and love Jesus!!!!! Things are going great and it's all due to the way God made me go in the direction he put me on, Ive got to get to bed, work at 730am and my final tomorrow night at school, so wanted to say I miss talking with you all and still pray nightly for you all and I pray you all have a great week and hope all works out for everyonw familes, health, addictions, etc...

Joni, hang in there, you did the right thing taking child~~~~~ God works in misterious ways!!!!! Look at all of us????? We all met, all suffer in some sort of way but YET>>>ALL LOVE GOD..ALl things will work out for the glory og God, I hope I can talk to you all soon, It's been hard getting on line working 8-5 and rushing to school 6-10pm then study then get to bed so Im not on like I used to be but I still miss all of you and will stay in touch,
May God bless each and all and answers all your prayers, I pray for you all nightly, In Jesus name,
Amen
Love Bettyann :-)


quigley
11/4/2003 13:00

Good Morning Girls,

I actually had some spare time this morning finally to read emails and posts and all that jazz - Kris, thank you for all of your emails and messages - I hadn't had a chance to read them until just now - that was very sweet. Things seem to be smoothing out a little - I have my 30 day review tomorrow at my job but the stress is nothing here like it was at my last one. I'm still not making much money but I'm praying God will help me to find a way to make enough money to pay my bills. Brett is helping me right now with rent and groceries - that is the only way I'm making it. His trial went pretty good yesterday - the judge dropped his child support in half but he is still paying $850 a mo. in spousal - it was the first good thing that has happened to him in court for a while. We still don't know if he loses his shop and business for another week. BA, glad to hear you sound so happy - I'm still faltering here and there w/ alcohol but things are definitely better. I know what you mean about being so busy and not having time to post - it's like I either have time to post or time to read but not both. Joni, my heart goes out to you - what is important is that you are doing what you think is best for the baby. He can't look out for himself and someone needs to - so he is a lucky little guy that he has you. I've worked for divorce lawyers and it's true, sometimes it complicates things when you get child services involved but you did what you had to do and I believe in your case, God will guide you in the right direction just keep praying and keep faith in him - I will keep you and your family in my prayers - it's time to go back to work - hope you all have a good day

Dear Lord,

Thank you for letting the judge make a fair decision yesterday for Brett - please help him and I both to stay strong and to make good judgment calls regarding our lives. I pray for willpower against the urge to drink for both BA and I - please be w/ Joni and her family during this time of crisis - I pray for her grandson, that you shelter him from harm and that you keep him safe and protected. Help his mother and please take away the desire for drugs in her life. Help Joni to stay strong in her faith and to trust you to direct her on her decisions. Amen.



AngleEthan
11/4/2003 18:34

Good Evening to all ~
I was on here this morning, and my post wouldn't go through!! I hate when that happens! I had to get to work, so I'm back on now that my work day is over. Had to go to the chriopractor TWICE today!! I'll be glad when it is better!
Bettyann ~ I am sooo happy to hear you being soooo positive :). It is just great! Keep up the good work with your drinking, and your school. I take it from your post that you have gotten back hours at work??? Hope this finds you well, and rested!! With such a schedule!!
Quigley ~ Sorry to hear about your knee - hope it is getting better! Glad somethying good happened with Brett in court! Has to be a stress reliever! Let us know how your 30 day review went o.k.? You'll be fine :)
Bonnie ~ Sometimes its the littlest things that make a big difference ya know. You never know what might help another person. We are all here for you, to listen, to care, to love, and to let you and others know that you are not alone in your struggle!! Please keep in touch with us. Thank you for keeping us all in your prayers. We can never have enough of that! Just wanted you to know :)
KRIS~ WHATSUP GIRL????????? WHERE THE HECK ARE YA??? You haven't been on here, or in my email!! Hope the game wasn't too much, although I'm sure you probably over did it! Had to be exciting though!! :) Get back on here, and let us know how you're doing. You're in my prayers
I'm gonna see if this goes through before I go on!


AngleEthan
11/4/2003 19:05

JONI~
What strength you have in God - through God!! It was a very brave, courageous, and LOVING thing you did for Christian! You are in my prayers every day. It had to be a heartbreaking thing for you, as I know you want more than anything to have Rachael and John get their act together and be the good loving kind parents you know they can be. Going to court will be a very hard day - for all. But you just go in that court room, and tell the judge that SOMEONE has to care for Christian, and it sure seemed like you were the only one willing to step up to the plate!! I take it that Johns mom is also in denial! POSITIVE TEST RESULTS DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE GETTING BETTER!!!! Drug addictics always think they can fool everyone. But the fact is they are only fooling themselves, and others who also don't want to face the truth! Of course the negative test result was someone eles' fault!!(haha) They don't know what they are doing - they're sloppy - they got it mixed up with someones elses' Can't be that she is DOING drugs, huh??? I've heard them all too!! So have all the counslers!! And the judges. Her testing positive while living with Johns parents means it can't be a very good enviroment for Christian!! Have you kept a journal??? I hope so!
Have you kept her emails, and messages on your answering machine? Judges CAN and DO listen to things in their chambers that they can't listen to in open court. They also read letters. You have time to write to this judge, and have him hear EVERYTHING you have to say about their lives, your life, and how you feel about all of it, and how you feel about Christian. A judge has an awesome responsibility - one that I don't envy!! But I DO believe they need all the information they can get in order to make a fair judgment!! Been there - done it, and it really can make a difference! Just let your heart flow out onto the paper. EVIDENCE is worded as: she appeared to have slurred speech - she/he had very tiny pupils - she/he appear to always be nauseated - she/he appear to be depressed/down most of the time. I have been counceled by one of the best child lawayers around here. These are things he had told me.DCFS usually wants to keep the child with a close family member - such as a grandmother. That's one reason so many grandparents are raising their grandchildren. The attritbutes I mentioned are signs of a herion user also. I got a book at the library on it. I knew about crack, because of my son, but wasn't very familer with herion use. Just passing on info that I have gathered - hope something helps you. My prayers are with you, and you are in my thoughts daily. Keep looking to Jesus - HE IS THE WAY MAKER!!! Going to meetings every day, and even going to church are what she thinks will work to get what she wants. It's normal - shes scared, and I pray to God that this will be her rock bottom, and will get the help she needs. There is a place called Narconon Arrowhead. It has a different approach to helping addicts stop using, and has a much higher sucess rate than the conventional rehabs. You might want to check it out. The judge could possibly impose it as a condition to getting Christian back, along with parenting classes, and follow up after care. Its on the web at stopaddiction.com/now Look it up. Keep the faith, and know God will see you through this.
Love in Christ Jesus~
Cindy


jonilnowm
11/5/2003 08:39

Cindy/Angel: Thank you so much for all your words of encouragement and for all the useful information. I pray your back is better. My daughter still claims that her test came up positive because she is on pain killers for a kidney stone and her inhalers have steroids that also show up positive. John's dad really believes her. She went on the internet and found a few web sites that support this. John's mom took him again on Tues to Turning Point for a 28 day program but he had taken sleeping pills again and he thought they wouldn't take him but his mom paid extra for them to keep him in detox first!!! She is waking up but the dad is clueless. Rachael still thinks by getting a better job and going to NA meetings that that will be enough for her to get back Christian. She had a job interview yest. and one today but EVERYONE at the Rehab center thinks she should lose her job altogether and go into some program. Please pray that she will see that this will ultimately be the best thing for her and that she desperately NEEDS to get out of that house and away from JOHN'S influence. My husband went to the family night at Rehab last night along with John's parents and Rachael ended up thanking him for taking the baby and giving her the break she needed. She was crying, he was crying and so were people in the room. Maybe the Lord will use this to start to heal the animosity between them. We did save the emails. John's dad wants us to tell the judge that we overreacted but that isn't going to happen! Please continue to pray that God will give us wisdom and courage and HE will put the words in my mouth that HE wants said...
Quigley: Thanks for your prayers and I am still praying for you and Brett and Taylor.
Bettyann: Thank you also for your words of encoragement and for your prayers. Keep up the good work in school--stay strong in the Lord.
Bonnie: I want to thank you also for your prayers for my family.
Kris: I hope you are ok. You are in my heart and in my prayers. We have alot of the same feelings and I know God brought us all here to help each other.

With HIS Love,
Joni


AngleEthan
11/5/2003 09:10

Joni ~
Just read your post, and you are more than welcome. You are in my prayers and my thoughts frequently every day. I talk with our Lord several times through out my days. He is ever present, and I sooo much count on that! He is so good to us! Yes, I do pray that HE speaks through you with everything that needs to be said during all of this. It is very much our Fathers will that needs to be done in all we do, as we are nothing without Him.If it sounded as if I am against Rachael I am sorry. I am not. I know how hard , and heart wrenching this is for you, because she is your child, and we love our children unconditionally. I want nothing more than for her to be released from this demon and be set free so she can lead a productive life for her and Christian. I pray for Johns parents to wake up, as it would be so wonderful if the grandparents all stood together, and on the same page in this. Romans 8:28 is one of my favorite scriptures in the Bible. I leave this with you today
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God to them who are called according to HIS purpose. Amen!
Love in Christ Jesus~
Cindy


BAPETNUT
11/5/2003 14:31

Morning to Everyone,
Have just a quick moment to say hi to all and your truly missed and in my prayers daily. Iv'e been extremely busy with work and school and doing nothing but homnework on my days off like today. I got 100% on my final last night and I love school so much and love caring for other people, but its' starting to take a little tole on me. I got all of a sudden sick at school last night and threw up and then they checked my blood pressure and it was 158/94 very very hi, normal is 120/80..It has been hi this week for some reason then I get sick. I asked my Instructor what causes this and she said, #1 stress, salt, too much coffee, Diabetics..Well Lord no's I have it all, so today I quit drinking coffee, starting to watch how much salt is in preparred food, and trying to NOT do so much so I dont get too stressed out. I dont want to have to start taking blood medication to lower my BP so Im trying God first and watching what I eat and drink. I love you all lots and I pray all is going well for you all and that God answers all your prayers, protects your children, helps you overcome your addictions and helps you find the right path in life, keep your eyes on him and all will work out, Talk with you tomorrow, time for homework :-)
God Bless All,
Love Bettyann :-)


littlecreeksparrowdance
11/6/2003 03:50

HEY EVERYONE; FINALLY GETTING A CHANCE TO GET BACK ON. I AM NOT HAVING VERY GOOD DAYS RIGHT NOW , AND OF COURSE, YALL KNOW COME FRIDAY, I GOTTA GO SEE JOSHUA AND THEM PLAY THEIR FIRST PLAY OFF GAME . IT WILL BE HERE AT HOME.THE RIDE LAST WEEK WAS ALITTLE TOO MUCH AND I AM GOING THROUGH QUITE A BIT OF PAIN RIGHT NOW IN Y WHOLE RIGHT SIDE ,AND AMONIA LEVEL IS BACK UP AGAIN,BUT I WILL SURVIVE AND BE OK.CIN, I HOPE YOU ARE OK, I AM SO WORRIED ABOUT YOU AND YOUR BACK, GOING TO THE CHIROPRACTOR TWICE IN ONE DAY DOES NOT SOUND GOOD AT ALL.THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME A LOT. HOW GOOD OF A CHIROPRACTOR IS HE?HOPE YOU GOT MY EMAILS AND CARDS. IM GLAD YALL BEEN GETTING THE ONES I BEEN SENDING , CAUSE SOME I HAVE TRIED TO SEND, EITHER I DID;NT DO IT RIGHT OR SOMETHING , AND I HAD MAIL FAILURE.BUMMER.BA, GLAD TO SEE YOUR FAITH IS GROWING MORE STRONGER AND YOU ARE DOING BETTER. LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE DEFINETLY GOT ALOT ON YOUR PLATE. THANK YOU FOR THE EMAILS AND THE FORWARD YOU SENT. I KEEP EVERYTHING ALL OF YOU SEND ME IN MY FOLDERS. QUIGLEY, I GOT YOURS TODAY, AND FINALLY GOT A CHANCE TO READ IT, I WILL ANWSER YOU LATER ON; AND TANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU SAID AND YOU KNOW I STILL LOVE YA, YOU DONT OWE ME ANY APOLOGIES. WE MAY NOT AT TIMES AGREE WITH OUR FRIENDS CHOICES IN LIFE AND WHAT HAPPENS, BUT THAT DOES'NT MEAN WE ARE GOING TO STOP BEING THEIR FRIEND OR STOP CARING OR LOVING THEM. UNDERSTAND?BONNIE; I HAVE TO SAY, UNTIL BRIAN CAN ADMIT TRUTHFULLY AND WILLFULLY THAT HE HAS A PROMBLEM AND IS FULLY READY TO TURN HIS LIFE COMPLETLY OVER TO GOD AND TO GET THE HELP HE NEEDS , AND BONNIE, HONEY, BELIEVE WHEN I SAY THIS ALSO, YOU SAY YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR PURPOSE IS AND YOU WISH THAT YOU KNEW WHAT GOD'S PLAN WAS FOR YOU , OR WORDS TO TAHT EFFECT .HONEY YOU WILL KNOW, I PROMISE YOU, SEEK HIM IN YOUR HEART AND JUST LISTEN AND YOU WILL HEAR HIS VOICE SPEAKING TO YOU AND BONNIE YOU WILL KNOW WHEN IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO COME FULL CIRCLE IN GOD'S PLAN FOR YOU, AND WITH YOUR STORY AND EACH TIME YOU COME ON HERE AND TALK ABOUT IT , YOU DONT KNOW WHO YOU MAY BE REACHING JUST BY SOMEONE HEARING YOUR STORY , AND SOMEONE COULD BE SAYING , YOU KNOW SHE IS RIGHT WHERE I AM , I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO HER MORE ABOUT THAT, AND HEY GOD LED YOU HERE DID;NT HE, THERE YOU GO!!
JONI; AS LIKE EVERYONE HERE, I FEEL THE SAME, MY HEART SO GOES OUT TO YOU AND I LOVE YOU VERY MUCH TOO, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL HERE FOR YOU. AND AS CINDY SAID, DRUG ADDICTS WILL SAY AND TELL AND DO ANYTHING, AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE RACHEAL IS DOING. SHE IS JUST TRYING TO MAKE AN APPEARENCE, BECAUSE SHE GOT CAUGHT IN HER OWN WEB, SO SHE IS WILLING AND READY TO TAKE THIS AS FAR AS SHE CAN PLAY IT, AND IF THAT MEANS GOING TO EVERY MEETING AND PLAYING THE PART OF THE DUTIFUL CLEAN ADDICT, AND GO TO A CHURCH AND TO BE A BORN AGAIN BELIEVER , SHE WILL DO IT ALL, SHE WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO PLAY THIS THROUGH, AND THAT IS SO VERY VERY HEARTBREAKING. BECAUSE THERE IS THAT PRECIOUS BABY CHRISTIAN INVOLVED. AND DONT YOU EVER LET HER EVER PUT THE BLAME ON YOU FOR ANYTHING, BECAUSE HONEY , SHE CHOSE THIS ROAD, YOU DID;NT CHOOSE IT FOR HER, SHE CHOSE IT FOR HERSELF, AND I AGREE WITH CINDY ALSO ON THE FACT THAT 98%OF THE TIME THE COURTS WHEN CHILD PROTECTION AGENCYS STEP IN , WILL ALWAYS GIVE THE CHILD OR CHILDREN TO A FAMILY MEMBER IS WILLING AND CAPABLE OF TAKING CARE OF THE CHILD OR CHILDREN. YOU DID THE RIGHT THING. ALL YOU HAVE EVER DONE IS TRY TO SAVE A DAUGHTER FROM DESTROYING HERSELF,AND SHE CANT HOLD THAT AGAISNT YOU. MY HEART IS WITH YOU JONI AND I WISH YOU THE VERY VERY BEST AND I KNOW THAT HAD TO BE EXTREMLY HARD ON YOUR HUSBAND ALSO, AND YOU KNOW GOD CAN TAKE THE MOST BROKEN HEART AND SPIRIT AND MAKE IT COMPLETLY WHOLE AND NEW AGAIN , AND I PRAY THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN FOR RACHEAL. I NEED TO CLOSE FOR NOW,BUT I WILL WRITE MORE TO ALLOF YOU LATER. I LOVE YOU ALL VERY MUCH.KRIS


jonilnowm
11/6/2003 08:11

Good morning everyone.
Just a quick note before I start work to let you all know how grateful I am for all the love and prayer support. John's parents came over our house for the first time last night to see the baby and Rachael left early to go to an AA meeting. This may all be for the sake of the court but it's my prayer that the Lord will touch her heart even as she goes through the motions. So sorry to read that almost everyone is suffering physically right now. It's my prayer that this new day finds everyone getting some relief...
With HIS love,
Joni


BAPETNUT
11/6/2003 10:45

Good morning everyone,
Well it looks like I may have to make an appointment for next week to see Doct. I felt just fine at school last night laughing, etc..then we practiced taking blood pressures and oh yah...mine was worse than the night before 155/100..I don't no why, I haven't been drinking Alcohol, smoking, overeating, etc...So Im going to the store this morning to check it on machine before my oil change caz I always get it checked at night in school and it's high~~~~probably stress but I can't keep it this high or I may eventually have a stroke or hear attack and I don'e need that before I graduate and help others in the Medical field. Cindy, have you seen a Docotor for you back? When I had a disc out the Chiropracter only made it worse, then I had an MRI and found that all the back pain was because my Disc was totally degenerated and then I had back surgery. I no how you feel, it's hard to do ANYTHING with a bad back..I pray it gets better and you get some relief, Frozen peas really helped mine and I still use them on my back when its hurting.( a cold pack) then heat...Kris, thanks for the cards, I so pray you start feeling better, I wish there was something they could give you to help your Hepatitis..We are just learning about it this week in school Hep A< B< C<.....Joni, I pray things work out for you family and Racheal realizes that drugs are a cover up to an very unhappy, unsatble person and that she comes to no the Lord and finds a new way of life, one full of inner peace. Quigley, hope all is well for you and Brett and your Job, I no it's hard this time of year, I'm short on money with bills and X-mas is comeing but I just pray and cut back on things I don't need like Alcohol, going out so much( yah like I have the time to do that)...hahahahhahahhah...Bonnie, how is your husband doing with his addiciton? Has he seeked help yet? I pray you hang in there and things get better for you. I pray for each of you nightly as I lay down to sleep and I pray we all remain healthy, strong, at peace and full of love and life..I pray for alls safety and that we all overcome whatever our personal trials may be, In Jesus name I ask all of this in God, Amen,
I hope all have a good weekend, I work all weekend so I wont be doing anything. Talk soon,
Love Bettyann :-)


jonilnowm
11/6/2003 12:07

Hello again: I just got off the phone with my husband. He's home all this week with the baby and DYFS was on the phone a long time with him. I am feeling very upset because he told them more than I would have divulged reagarding her bounced checks etc. and about John. The woman from DYFS said that opens up legal issues. Please, please pray that I will be strong. Rachael has been coming over several times to see the baby and we have been getting along and I almost feel like I am betraying her and making it impossible for her to ever get her baby back. I need to be strong to keep doing the right thing.
Thank you in advance for your prayer support.
With HIS love,
Joni


AngleEthan
11/6/2003 13:28

Dearest Joni~
You stay strong, and you keep your faith. Satan WANTS you to be upset about things right now! That's when we don't think clearly. Maybe..... Gods hand was a part of the woman calling when you wern't home????? A step ~ grandpa that would take so much time off work for that little baby must be some kind of loving, caring person, and I can't help but feel like he has a lot of compassion, and wants to do the right thing. You are not betraying Rachael at all!!! Please do not allow those thoughts to come in. You are trying to help her grow up, and its a painful process! I don't want to sound crule, but I have been in the position I can't even count the times where I thought maybe for a moment that my son was REALLY trying, only to be disappointed! I said all that to say this:
OF COURSE RACHAEL IS COMING OVER FREQUENTLY, AND OF COURSE YOU ARE GETTING ALONG!! SHE HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO PLAY IT THAT WAY!! YOU HAVE HER SON!!ITS THE NAME OF THE GAME FOR DRUG ADDICTS!! " DO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET WHAT YOU WANT - GET OUT AND SCREW THEM!!!" THIS IS A DRUG ADDICTS PATTERN. YOU'VE BEEN THERE - YOU KNOW IT FIRST HAND. DON'T BE FOOLED JONI.
AS FAR AS THE LEGAL ISSUES GO, THEY NEED TO BE DEALT WITH. YOU CAN'T RUN AND HIDE FOREVER. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU ENDED UP WITH TEMPORARY CUSTODY OF CHRISTIAN, AND THEN THIS LEGAL STUFF CAME UP, AND DYFS FOUND OUT THAT YOU KNEW IT, AND DID NOT DEVULDGE IT. THEY WOULD BE ASKING IF CHRISTIAN SHOULD BE WITH YOU - BASED ON YOUR CO-OPERATION AND HONESTY WITH THEM??????? tHEY COULD TURN THAT AGAINST YOU SO EASILY JONI, AND I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT CHRISTIAN IN A STRANGERS HOME. You said "regarding her bounced checks and about John" Like I said - I am not trying to be crule, and I in NO WAY want to offend you, but WHAT ABOUT JOHN???(I don't want an answer to that?) From what I have read about him, he would be one of the last males around to get a "father of the year" award! If he has issues with the law then that is EXACTLY what HE has! ISSUES with the law. They are not yours! Rachaels ARE NOT YOURS. THEY ARE THERE ISSUES, AND WE CAN NOT FIX THEM!! I know what I am saying is soooooo hard Joni, but I am honestly, and with all my heart thinking of the welfare of Christian. He is pure innoncence. He deserves at chance at LIFE. NOT THE WORLD OF DRUGS!!!! I no longer play that game with my son and he doesn't try to play it anymore. I learned to "see" it really quickly. I pray for guidence, wisdom, knowledge, and strength for you and your husband. Safety, peace, happiness, and sobrity for all
Love in Christ Jesus~
Cindy


jonilnowm
11/7/2003 09:04

Cindy:
Thank you for those words of strength. I needed that!! I do believe my husband was better equipped to speak to the woman at DYFS and I do believe she did not reach me for good reasons. She met with Rachael yest. and said she is reccommending that Rachael be clean for a full 6 months before she can get the baby back. Rachael called me hysterically crying but we do know in our hearts that this is the best thing for her to get out on her her own away from John and try to clean up her finances etc. and go to daily meetings without the burden of the baby. It is so easy for me to still want desperately to belive she is trying to stay clean but now the courts will see if she stays clean so I am glad it's out of our hands. I am so glad to have found this website and I KNOW the Lord lead me to people who know my pain and can see clearly to give good advise. Thank you and keep praying...
With HIS love,
Joni


AngleEthan
11/7/2003 10:06

GOOD Morning all!!
What a blessed moring it is!! God DOES answer prayers, now doesn't He???? Joni~ I am just grinning from ear to ear this morning after reading your post!! PRAISE GOD! PRAISE GOD FROM WHOM ALL BLESSINGS FLOW!!! That is WONDERFUL NEWS!! I am soooo happy that the lady from DYFS is recomending 6 MONTHS!! That is great! It is a very good start to Rachael staying clean! I know how much this must hurt Rachael, and hurt you also to see her in such pain, but remember Romans 8:28!! Praise God we have HIS promises to stand on!! :) I know this will be a rocky road, and at times probably very exasperating for you, but you keep hanging on to your faith, never lose sight not even for a moment that God is your ever present help, and just a wisper away!! I will keep you, and your family in my daily prayers.
I HAVE to get to work now. Everyone else, I have not been ignoring you - just burdened with Joni's situation, and Christian. I PROMISE I will get back to you later. Thank you for your prayers. I have a praise to give when I come back!! :)
Love in Christ Jesus,
Cindy


help4myfamily
11/7/2003 13:05

Happy Friday to everyone. Well the weather sure has changed here and it actually feels like fall. The temp dropped 15 degrees during the day yesterday. This sure is a difference from the 90-degree weather that we had just a few days ago. Joni I have been thinking about you and your family all week. As I posted awhile back, I lived with my grandparent while growing up and it was one of the best times of my life. There is a true reason why the word grand is put in front of parents. Please remember that you are only doing what you feel is best for your grandson, and sometimes it does take getting the courts involved so you can have the outside opinions that are needed. You can always get a better view from the outside looking in. Remain strong in your faith and God will see you through this. Quigley, hope your knee is feeling better and that things are still going smooth for you and Brett. How is Taylor doing? How did your review go? Great, I hope. BA I am so glad to hear that you have been able to control the drinking. That is a step in the right direction. Congrats on the final score, you are doing great. You be sure to get your BP under control, you are too busy now to get sick. (Like any of us have time to get sick!) J Cindy I hope your back is doing better. I have lower back problems from the way I carried Paige and I know it is no fun to have your back hurt. I hope they are able to do something for you to relieve your pain and to fix what is causing it. Kris I hope you are feeling better and that your ammonia levels are balancing out for you. I hope you are strong enough to make it to the football game. You sound like a very proud aunt and I am sure your nephew is excited for you to be there. I hope I didnít leave anyone out. I pray for each of you daily. Brian seems to be doing better, but he has not sought any outside help with his problem, as a matter of fact, he has not even brought it up since the last episode 2 weeks ago. He has been coming home when he is suppose to be, hasnít ask for anymore money than he normally needs for his expenses during the week, so I am hoping that he is doing ok. It is back to like nothing had ever happened. I am not sure what to do, continue with the act like nothing ever happened or ask if he has thought anymore about getting help. And now today will be a test for Brian and I. He is picking up his paycheck and is suppose to be bringing it to me. I have been very concerned about this and have prayed for the right thing to happen. I feel I have given him enough chances and if he doesnít follow through with what he has told me, I am going to have to separate Paige and myself from the situation. I donít feel I should have to go on living like this any longer. I have given him more than enough chances to show me what he wants. Please pray that God will give me the strength that I will need to stand up to him if this should happen. I hope you all have a safe weekend. God bless you all. Bonnie

PS Thank you all so much for your prayers and listening to me vent. I always feels so much better after I post. Talk to you all real soon.


Quigley
11/7/2003 17:18

Happy Friday all,

Joni, from the sounds of your post, I am convinced you did the right thing by getting child services involved. This way she can't blame you for everything. Children services is there to help the children - of course there are bad eggs in every batch but the majority of them are there for the good of the children. I will keep praying for your daughter to quit her addiction - and I'll pray for you to stay strong

Bonnie, That has got to be a stressful feeling wondering if Brian will be home w/ his paycheck or not - I pray that he stays on the straight and narrow for you and Paige's sake. When I was addicted to pain killers and finally kicked them I did it w/o the help of any drug counseling) and I've never looked back. I hope this is Brian's case also. I pray you have the strength to stand up to Brian if he falters - I will be thinking of you and Paige - Taylor is doing good - we started soccer practice every Monday night and she loves it. It is for disabled children from 4 to 15 and it helps her excercise and meet kids that are like her. I prayed for something like this so I'm really excited and thankful that we found it. My review went good - thank God for that too. Well, I need to finish up a few things here and then I will be back to pray - BA, Kris, Angel - hope you have a good weekend - love & God Bless

 
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