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shaner 11/5/2003 23:41 |
Hello dear Deb, I couldn't say it any better than our dear Verna, I agree 100% with her, and tears are a good thing, so no feeling bad about it, :-) |
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deborahpoo 11/6/2003 04:50 |
misunderstud what i meant.... |
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Leander72 11/6/2003 13:56 |
Dearest Angel Moms, Hi, I know its been a long time and I'm writing to say Thankyou Bunches for your e-mails, I'll speak of why later but wanted to share something I saw on the EWTN Net early morning Fr Grotshel was on with a quest and the topic was about suffering and the loss of someone we love so much we would gladly have taken there place and I'm going to include beloved pets, let me preface this that this is not for one faith but all, He said that through mediation, prayer we would feel the presence of the Loved One it may only happen three times in our lives but it will happen through all his counseling and feedback he has received this is what he has learned he also said that the greatest losses we face are sometimes strengthened by our day to day talking with them that because of the loss we grow less worldly and more spiritually more connected with God or who you seek as a higher power, I was deeply impressed because he is a Roman Catholic priest who has himself experienced this as well, he also said that to increase our spiritual connection with God we need to let go or as he said ammend something worldly about ourselves, this was a comfort, I know that many have sought the answer to feeling the presence of there beloved child I hope this will affirm for you that what you seek will happen and that talking everyday with a Loved one who has passed through the veil is good for you as well as for them because love never dies, I know these pages bare witness to these facts but for me a Catholic it was a first that a priest had experienced and found proof not only for himself but for us as well. the later part will come seperately I Pray with all my heart that his words will help you comfort and bring you Peace Love&BearHugs Donna |
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Leander72 11/6/2003 14:18 |
OOPs Guest, Now for the latter part July 7 I broke another bone in my foot and have been recieving injections since once a week as well as wearing a bootbrace, it has been very painful and I was told that after the injections I would need surgery for the broken bone that will have to be removed and for another two bones that have conjoined but that wasn't the mind and heart breaker it was to learn that with all this I would be unable to walk there had been so much damage from tumor and breaks and arthritis it took me awhile to even talk with my family which I have and we are dealing with it, I told them " They can write the story but they can't finish the story only God can I couldn't talk of it there has been so much and you have all had your challenges beyond and have been a great support and I wanted to be a support I could talk with God myself and wait, I know you are saying but we are your family too and yes I know in my heart and soul you are but I needed time to gain perspective and not feel sorry for myself in truth I couldn't believe my family would need to face anymore this is what I've come too and I do believe the Holy Spirit gave it to me when I was ready to receive it We are all climbing mountains each and everyone of us and we get boulders sometimes its smooth but the boulders come and we need to know how to climb over no short cuts but when I look to the top of my mountain there is Jesus waiting and saying don't look down but up and keep on moving to me. I wanted to write, but knew here you are dealing with the deepest of all losses so why am I upset I won't need this foot someday but how does all this come out so God is Honored well first I climb and keep climbing upward so I will visit when I can my foot goes numb when writing or sitting but meanwhile I will send My Love and Hope and any funnies I can find so please don't worry or feel bad I'm climbing just like you and ask for your prayers for my family for God's ending I Love You and Send Lots and Lots of BearHugs EVERYDAY Donna |
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LOVE2U 11/6/2003 20:33 |
Lord, ~ We thank you for the love and compassion that You send to us, and through us daily! I ask that You continue giving us the strength we need daily to carry on. Amen! |
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SELVAM 11/6/2003 20:45 |
My sister Donna. Ay I have missed you sooooo much! I have the feeling that you forgot about your family here in the Circle of Love, do you know about the power of prayers? it is something that cientifphycs (?) are trying to understand and we all know about it.I have been praying for you and Shar so much, and I am sure that the rest of our Angel sister have been doing also.Did you forget this is the place where you can tell all of your problems? and that we all understand?no matter what!Did you forget the POWER OF PRAYERS?, then my sister, come back to where you are understand, prayed, and love. Love you my sister Selva |
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LOVE2U 11/6/2003 21:47 |
Dear Donna, ~ I've missed you too, and so have the other angel moms! We needed to know that you and Shar and her roomie are doing OK. I know ... We all feel like that sometimes when we are overwhelmed with our own personal problems. Sometimes I just sit and look at the monitor and wonder ... Should I dump all of this on them? Sometimes I say, "Nah, I'll just deal with it on my own. I don't want to have them worrying about me." But, there are other times when I ignore those thoughts and share what's on my mind. And, as Selva has said, prayer is sooo powerful! I'm just glad that you decided to let us know what's going on so we can storm heaven with prayer for you and family even more! Remember, we are your extended family, so we want to be a part of whatever it is that you are dealing with! We love you and Char, and worry when we don't hear from you. I know, sometimes things happen with the computer and we can't always get here as often as we would like to do. But, as soon as the problems are resolved, we wanna hear what's going on. You know without saying that you and Shar will always be in our love and heartfelt prayers! Your faith shines brightly, so I'll continue praying for healing, and that God will provide as strength and much physical comfort, now, and in the days ahead. All angel moms, the hands are a little better but still can't overdo. Will catch up on emails and posting ASAP. |
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shaner 11/6/2003 23:29 |
Hello our Dear One, I loved reading your first posting, sharing the spiritual insights that are so very true that the good Fr. shared on the program, and you're so right, it's not just a "Catholic" thing, these truths are universal, for anyone. I speak from experience, I used to be a person of 'this world', but Shane's passing, along with all the pain, sorrow, also changed me for the better. And the further along I go on my own spiritual Journey in my faith, I have become less of this world, and more in tune with Our Lord, dropping baggage along the way that I once thought I 'needed'or were part of my life that needed changing. And this does lead you into a deeper and more personal relationship with God. And as we all do, I had to 'shift' my relationship with my Shane, God's Shane, because of the loss of physicality, my spiritual connection with him has grown stronger - as you point out so eloquently in your post, and I SO relate to what the Priest said on the program, through prayer, contemplation and talking with our children, for that matter, any of our loved ones who've gone before us, we do experience their presence, (not all the time of course, :-) and we are strengthened. He sounds like a wonderful servant of God, and because he can relate so strongly to profound losses, and has experienced this himself, as well as the feedback he receives from other's, it is a comfort, I'm just sorry now I couldn't have watched the show, but you've re-told it so well, and it is very comforting and I pray along with you that our dear Angel Moms will receive the experiences they so desperately want and need! Thanks so much for sharing it with all, and again I join you in prayer that our newly bereaved Moms will find comfort and peace in what you have shared. |
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shaner 11/7/2003 00:00 |
~~Part 2~~ |
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shaner 11/7/2003 00:12 |
Oh gosh Miss V, what a terrible tragedy, two families, and the ultimate losses, dear sweet children. May Our Lord wrap His loving arms around the families, and also the firefighters, they may be trained professionals, but they're human too, and this had to be a very difficult time for them also. Yes, they truly are Angels too, may God bless them abundantly for the unselfish hard work they do for all of us. I definitely join you in prayer for these families, whose lives are so torn apart right now, and I pray also that Our Lord gives them the physical and spiritual strength to get through this, and Praise God for those whose lives were spared. We all know there is no greater pain in this world than for a parent to lose a child, so we will once again be storming Heaven with our prayers for the families. God bless you dear Miss V for posting about it, |
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Leander72 11/7/2003 12:24 |
Dear Sisters, Thank you for you openess and understanding but I am truly sorry to have had you worry or hurt your feelings so much has happened to all of you Deb, I'm so sorry for your loss of your beloved friend, Verna, I know you have had your heart break with all that is happening in your own family, Selva I pray each day your journey gets softer and I ask you all for forgiveness know I see your faith shine so BRIGHT I needed to work with my own and yes you are right I should have included you and asked for prayer and I Thank You all for your Prayers Love&BearHugs Donna |
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Leander72 11/7/2003 12:29 |
Dearest Verna, Please know how sad to hear of such loss, How are you doing and know yes they will all be in prayer for the precious children and there families. Love&BearHugs Donna |
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Leander72 11/7/2003 12:52 |
Dearest Deb. I read the beautiful poem written for your coworker it is so Beautiful and I'm glad it gave you friend comfort its a keepsake for sure and yes the tears flow but thats ok I thought of Verna too and the losses in her community the other side of the veil helps alot I cryed because of the loss of the children and what the family must be feeling anyone would have given there life Verna, maybe you could make a copy for them its so Beautiful to know an Angel is there with them is the only way to keep the horrible guilt though we know thats part of the process it helps to know God sends his Angels it took me a long time to come to that when Mikey died and I wasn't there with him so I'm praying and HOPING for all for recovery God in his Tender Mercy is so Good to us it just takes time and Deb, when we had to put our Heidi to sleep we cried for days and she is still missed but there were times both my husband and I felt her presence so I'm praying for you too that soon when your heart is ready you will feel the comfort and know she is near, Father you count the tears and feel the pain but only you can bring Peace to all the suffering and Loss Please send your Angels those of feather and those of fur to bring comfort and aid, Please settle your Peace on all those who are in need. Thank You Father for hearing our Hearts and knowing you heal the Heart is Our greatest Joy Amen |
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Leander72 11/7/2003 13:01 |
Dearest Selva, Congrulations on your new home HURRAH I hope your settling in and that the dogs left the door standing Ha Ha but truly I am so happy for you can't wait to tell Shar it will make her happy too, Wishing you all the Best and Yes I heard you loud and clear hopefully and gratefully I didn't throw the computer out and my son put it so well Mom you hide and that causes distance we are your family come to us I was so blown from this revealiton from the mouths of Babes { he just turned 26 } but he'll always be my babe. Thank You for your e-mails they helped when my machine let me finally get to them there was so much e-mail they threatened to close my account Thanks for not giving up on me ALL of YOU Love&BearHugs Donna |
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SELVAM 11/7/2003 19:50 |
Ay mis sister Donna, I am glad you came to your senses, hello? remember we are a family?, we are here for one another, we have gone through so much pain together! and we have shared that pain, so please my sister, we are all here for you, and I insist in the Power of Praying, and we are all praying, we have so much Power that I imagine God saying Ok, OK, I give up, You win. We will storm Heaven for you and Shar, we are also part of the family, of course I understand that your husband, son , Shar and the rest of the family is priority, but don't forget us, we are your second family and will be there with you at all times. So let it out on us, please my sister, I understand so well what to chose a family is all about. I came to this country at a very young age with no family, but God geve me the oportunity to find a mother and a father when my own could not be with me, since then , I always choose my family, not blood family, there are so many people out there that can be your parents, brothers, sisters, etc, I learned the hard way, so I chosed you like my sister, and that my dear is what you are for me, and so all these wornderful Angel sisters. I learned that the hard way, so I can tell you, you are all my family. So please don't keep anything from us, we are all here, and I am sure all our Angel sisters agreed on that. Love you my sister. Selva |
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shaner 11/7/2003 23:14 |
~~Just another Quote to Share~~ |
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shaner 11/7/2003 23:22 |
What a nice posting my dear sister to our other sister Donna, you are SO beautiful on the inside, as well as the out, :-) I had a good chuckle reading what you said about us bombarding Heaven all the time, and God saying OK, enough, you win. It made me stop and think just how powerful all our prayers really are. What a loving God we have! |
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Leander72 11/8/2003 08:29 |
Dearest Sisters, Thank you, Sandy for your kind and understanding words, I feel sorry that those Moms could not share and how you must have mourned for those children and for them but at least someone mouned for children whose mothers didn't know how, Selva I didn't forget any of you there was some profound pain happening here I am grateful for this sanctuary where we are not judged but I thought how can I tell them when you were all suffering Deb had found out about her precious dog You were in a deep valley all around you, people you knew and Loved were dying Verna had just learned of her sisters heart attack Sandy had lost a Dear and Beloved friend somehow I felt it was best to send e-mails to try and ease to say I'm here I haven't forgotten you any of you maybe the best medicine for me was to let you know you were thought of to lift you up each of you in my own way and I kept hoping and still do I chose to Love in away that might help remember the story hasn't ended yes but I wasn't choosing one family over another do not think you mean less please that is to painful Yes we have shared and gone through so much sometimes I go alone to seek God I know that may sound pompous but I needed a direction a perspective before I talked with anyone the sadness in there eyes the journey of pain they have traveled with me as all of you have and I don't take your Love lightly so when I say you are never far from my heart know I mean it I would probably do the same if the same was happening here I would rather be a light when the world of those I Love becomes dark but, I would be saying what all of you have said come and break bread and share, sometimes pain is overwhelming, you each know that I was overwhelmed and yet I wanted to help can you say you never made a choice to put your pain aside for someone else a foot compared to lives is insignifigant trust me I have learned to use my butt to move to work so what would you have done lives were being lost friends sisters in serrious trouble I know what that is like you all walked that journey with me so please know I didn't choose nor do I see you as family second Family of Love is the Greatest gift I have had the Blessing of knowing and sharing good and bad times listening to each others heart I am grateful for your prayers and just as grateful for your understanding.Love&BearHugs Donna |
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SELVAM 11/8/2003 16:56 |
Hi my sister Donna. Just stop for a second and think, how many sorrows have we (all Angel Moms) shared together? many, yes, we come to this Circle of Love because we know that we can find understanding, love, prayers. Pain? how can we have more pain than the one we all share, loosing our child (children), you know there is nothing more painful that that, so whatever happens in between, we can all share that pain, and it will be easier if we can all share and pray, remember the Power of Prayer? My dear sister, I don't know how to explain it, but I will try in the cuban way, we share your pains and sorrows, but if we know about it then we can all pray together until God gives up and says yes, we all have out problems, but it is here in this Circle of Love where we can find help, we don't mean to trouble anybody, we are all in this together, WE ARE A FAMILY, and a very special one, we have not met and we love one another, what else can you ask for.If you feel that way, then it makes me think twice about telling my problems, like having to move out by the end of the month, I mean Solange's room, well is that a burden to you? I'm sorry, but I need prayers for strengh, you need prayers for healing, so you see? if we pray together then we storm Heaven, will you do it for me? I am sure you will, so we all storm Heaven for you, only if we know, so, from now on, I DECIDED, you don't keep anything from your sisters, or I will get angry and you don't want to see an angry cuban, we have been angry for 43 years, so imagine, don't add to it. I love you my sister, and please be sure we are all here for you and Shar. God Bless you. Love Selva |
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Scott42 11/8/2003 18:40 |
My prayers and thoughts are with you for the loss of your son. My stepson passed away last year from a brain aneurysm and my sixteen year old daughter is terminally ill with an inoperable heart condition. She has been under hospice for over a year and half, is very sick at this time, and reminds me every day is a gift from God. I always say when other ask how she is doing, "everyday is a gift from God" and when she asks about her brother I always remind her (Brian is always in our hearts." My faith in Jesus Christ is unwavering and that such a tragic loss brings compassion, prayer, and empathy for your loss Shaner. |
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Leander72 11/9/2003 00:23 |
This is and always will be a sanctuary I'm truly sorry Selva and anyone who was hurt I ask your forgiveness and this Haven will stay a Haven so don't worry and I pray for all of you everyday and will Selva, I am so sorry to have angered you and offended you don't worry ever about expressing yourself. God Peace be with you all Love&BearHugs Donna |
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shaner 11/9/2003 00:36 |
Hello Scott42, |
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shaner 11/9/2003 00:59 |
Hello my dear Donna, I see you're up late posting too, :-) it's almost 1 am here, had a nap earlier, so now I'm wide awake, and came here to our Circle. |
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smile713 11/9/2003 08:16 |
to scott42: our prayers are with you also. |
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