And then, God says that we can go into the world and share the love of Christ, and I'm free to love those people. I don't have to judge them. When they come to faith in Jesus Christ He'll deal with some of the issues that we keep harping on.

I think a personal relationship with God is established at the cross. When you come to the cross by faith, you acknowledge before God that you're a sinner. You tell Him that you're sorry. You claim the death of Jesus to make atonement for your sin, invite Him to come into your life, just giving Him the authority in your life.

I think many people do that. So, they know they're forgiven. They know they're going to heaven when they die.

In the meantime, they're going to join a church and do a few good things, and they think that's being a Christian. They miss out on developing a relationship and living a life that's pleasing to God.

Q: I'd like to shift gears and ask you a question on a more personal note, how is your father?

He'll be 91 on his birthday. And so, he has trouble hearing, trouble seeing, trouble walking, and he says he misses my mother more every day. That's getting harder for him.

Some days are good. Some days are not so good. But, last time I was there, he had really good days, and he was alert and sweet. He doesn't have much stamina, he doesn't get out of the house much, but he has friends come and see him. He's always been a news person, so he watches the news on TV. He has a wonderful staff that takes care of him and he enjoys my grandchildren.

Q: When you look at your father's life, what you think his most profound accomplishment might be?

I think his greatest contribution is that he was a man like Abraham, who heard the call of God in his life, and he gave everything up. And then, God took him from there. It's been a journey that he would never, ever have dreamed when he was on the farm in Charlotte. I think the legacy that he'll leave behind is a legacy of changed lives.

When he gets to heaven, I don't think God cares so much that he knew all the presidents, God's not impressed with stuff like that. But I think what he will look at, one, is my father's own character. Did he live it? Did he live what he proclaimed, which, as far as I can see, he has.

So, I think the greatest contribution is just that he's been obedient and faithful to God's call in his life

Q: Is there anything else you want to say to Beliefnet readers?

God loves people and has a purpose and plan for their lives. He wants them to know Him in that personal relationship because that's what they're created for. And if you don't have that, then you'll never be deeply fulfilled.Abraham was raised in a religious home in Ur, and he rejected religion in order to pursue a personal relationship with God.

I would define religion as man trying to reach God. We're trying to connect with God, so we have our philosophies, our traditions, our rituals, our hierarchy of leadership or whatever.

But, how could you really reach God? If there's a God up there, even man couldn't reach Him. That's why God has reached down to us.

God has revealed Himself to us through scripture, through Jesus, and then invited us to know him in a personal relationship, which can develop into a real friendship. And Abraham rejected religion, and today he's considered the patriarch of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, and yet he was not religious. He rejected religion for the relationship.

I think religion is an impediment to knowing God, actually. I wouldn't consider myself a religious person in that sense. I'm just a pilgrim on a journey seeking to know God in a relationship that He would describe as a friendship.

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