Could you describe what you know of George Harrison's spiritual practice most recently?

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About four years ago I spent a week with him in Hawaii completely in silence where we would practice almost four hours of meditation, and even recently he would practice two to three hours of meditation in the mornings and another half an hour in the evenings and the rest of the time he was either writing, working in his studio, or gardening.

So he was living a very simple kind of lifestyle. When he would engage in conversation it was all about spirituality. He was a very, very avid reader and not just an avid reader of Eastern spirituality, but a very avid reader of the Gnostic gospels, the other versions of the historical Christ, the Gospel of Thomas. When he signed a letter he would always put an eastern symbol and also put a cross. He very much had a relationship with Christ as well.

That's interesting. Was that true consistently for the last thirty years?

All along. He had a very personal relationship with Christ. When he signed off to his personal friends he would always put a symbol.

Early on he was most closely associated with transcendental meditation.

Right, actually I took him to meet Maharishi in 1993. He hadn't seen Maharishi for 30 years. He wanted to pay his respects once again to Maharishi and they had a very wonderful meeting.

George was very eclectic. He was associated with Mararishi, but he also at one time was very involved with the Hare Krishnas, he also studied Yogananda, he was very very interested in the more Eastern versions of Christianity--as I mentioned the Gospel of Thomas--and he was very well read, very well read.

Did he ever write anything that reflected his interest in Eastern interpretations of Christianity?

No, but we would talk about it all the time. If you went to his house in England we would have long conversations. He had all kinds of pictures and artwork.

How would you assess his influence on the spiritual landscape?

The world would not have known Ravi Shankar if it hadn't been for George Harrison. He brought the sitar to the West, and along with that he brought Indian music to the West, he brought Ravi Shankar to the West, and he brought Indian spirituality to the West. So I would say that whether he was responsible for that or he was part of the tidal wave he was just part of the whole movement of consciousness that was occurring in the sixties--it's all kind of neither here or there. He was both a part of the movement, he was also an initiator of the movement.

And he got the rest of the Beatles interested. They weren't really interested in these things. He told me that the first time he decided to go to India in the sixties he was going to do it all by himself. He just happened to mention it to John--and John said I'm coming also, and then Paul said I'm coming also, and Ringo said, well I can't be left out. He was always the one taking the initiative. And ultimately they all did get interested. In some way or another, they're all very spiritual.

What was the reaction to the Beatles embracing the Maharishi or Eastern spirituality?

It made news. It made huge news at the time when they first came to India. and they left in a hurry because of some altercation John had with Maharishi. George didn't want to leave but they did leave. And then 30 years later he actually went with me to meet with Maharishi just to kind of say, we were young, so I hope you forgive us.

There's a little bit of a legend-whether it's true or not I don't know--when they came to the United States for the first time, the Beatles, they were on the Ed Sullivan Show--their first show in America. According to George-I don't know if this is a fact or not but it's an often repeated story by George and by Maharishi as well-the one hour they were on the Ed Sullivan Show there was no crime committed in America. So Maharishi when he heard that he said that these four boys are angels in disguise and that's how he used to refer to them.

How did he react when George said I hope you can forgive us?

He said there's nothing to forgive--you're angels in disguise and he brought up that story. He said I could never be upset with angels.

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