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Obama, Israel and Jewish Dems Redefine Faith and Values Voting

posted by Brad Hirschfield

Fishing expeditions are funny things — sometimes you end up reeling in a catch you regret, no matter how much right-wing pundits like Dick Morris try to spin things. That seems to be the case with a recent poll conducted by the conservative Christian group, the Traditional Values Coalition, surveying American Jews aligned with the Democratic Party.
Why would TVC even bother with this poll? Almost certainly because they were fishing for dissatisfaction among those polled about the way President Obama is handling the Middle East in general, and Israel in particular. What they found must have disturbed and confused them though.
The poll showed that there is significant disagreement between American Jewish Democrats and the administration, on specific issues regarding the possibility of peace in the region and the best approach to settlements. For instance, 44 percent said “Obama is naïve in thinking he can make peace with the Arabs”. Just 20 percent agreed with the statement that “if Israel could settle its dispute with the Palestinian refugees and give them a nation of their own, that the Arabs would live in peace with Israel” while 52 percent chose “the Arabs will never live in peace with Israel and that giving them a nation of their own will just make them stronger.”
So far, TVC got what they were looking for. But the results of the poll also indicate that despite these real differences, the same audience remains strongly supportive of the actions which the Obama administration is taking to bring peace to the Middle East.


Jewish Democrats gave Obama a 92 percent approval rating; and responded by a 58-16 margin that they believe “Obama is doing a good job of promoting peace in the Middle East.”
This poll, whether one agrees with the President or not, reminds us that real values-driven support is about something larger than agreement about a specific policy position or its implementation. The respondents to this survey were capable of something which its sponsors, and most American politicos, often fail to miss – that deeply held values and principles can be pursued through many avenues and practices, and that even when groups disagree about the latter, they can sustain real relationships that are animated by the former.
American Jewish Democrats, so committed to Israel that they remain deeply suspicious of its Arab neighbors, share the President’s desire for peace. This poll demonstrates that they are willing to work out their differences about how to achieve peace together, rather than walk away from that shared commitment. That’s commitment to a deeply-held value, peace, not simply using the language of values to fire up the faithful about a particular policy.
Even more powerful, is the evidence from this survey, of how deeply held those values are among Jewish Democrats. Even though they do not necessarily believe that the moves being made by the administration are likely to bear fruit, they support the President’s efforts. Talk about faith!
Those responding to this survey are the embodiment of a genuine faith which takes them beyond the politically likely into the realm of the seemingly impossible but ethically and morally desirable. If that isn’t a reasonable definition of faith, I don’t know what is. Perhaps most interestingly, it’s evidenced by a group that is increasingly disinterested in classical religion, more likely than ever to describe itself as ‘secular’, and pretty much the polar opposite on almost every issue from those who conducted the survey.
I guess we are all more alike that we often first recognize, and in ways that often surprise us. And I guess that sometimes a fishing expedition which nets an unexpected and undesirable catch from the fisherman’s perspective may still bring in a good haul from the perspective of both the fish and those watching from the shore.



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mel

posted August 15, 2009 at 10:14 am


It should be noted that the head of the TVC is Rev. Louis Shelton, an apostate/meshumad, an individual who has betrayed the Jewish people by converting from his ancestral faith, Judaism, to Christianity.



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posted August 16, 2009 at 7:29 pm


Obuma is a muslim and of course cares less about America or Israel.
God gave the land to the Jews and it is up to them to keep it.



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Stephen Ecsedy

posted August 16, 2009 at 7:31 pm


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Bob

posted August 17, 2009 at 11:13 am


the man is anti israel anti anti he really be he is the second coming. i do not trust for a minute



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posted August 17, 2009 at 1:56 pm


When someone votes for there canadate ,they usually go for what there Ideas on how to improve the country,they go for their experience in political history,some want a new start,so they go for someone new,the dangers are when they are clouded by gender or race or how their hair looks others in history was he’s cute he has boxers not briefs,he plays the sax,thats great that they have talents,but some go for just the party line,with all the clouds in all the fuzzy minds they dont look closely for what they stand for,both sides are to blame for all the anger and unhappyness,it time to start fresh and go for a third party and that might wake up are beloved old parties,so if another person comes out of the woodwork that doesnt have much of a history in politics,or to much history,PLEASE use what the maker from above gave us(brains) so if we servive this 4 years lets stop and see where we were and proceed ahead and not make a mistake that we can’t ever recover from like old Russia,old Germany.



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Stewart

posted August 17, 2009 at 3:48 pm


Football does not need a lawbreaker who made money on the backs (and deaths) of dogs. Michael Vick not only used animals for an illegal purpose, I read that he personally killed 8 of his dogs who did not perform well enough for him. So he is out of jail and wants to get back into the sport of football. (I hope he is better equipped to please his new employers than his dogs were in pleasing him.) What I would truly like to see is for Michael Vick to go to high schools and colleges and lecture on the evil of that so-called “sport” of dog-fighting. There will be young people who will listen to him just because he was a great athlete. He could do much to eradicate a sick sport engaged in by sick people just by the use of his name and the lesson he should teach. Then maybe after a year or two of doing that he could return to football and not be booed as a cruel and lousy person (as I expect would happen if he goes back to football now) but rather be cheered, not only as a football hero, but as a good person doing a good thing. That is a wonderful lesson for young people: make up for mistakes with good behavior. And if he screws up on the field, I hope he is shown more forgiveness than he showed his dogs.
Stewart Perry



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