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Is Barack Obama Hitler?

posted by Brad Hirschfield

Sadly, scarily, and with great disrespect for America (which I am sure they don’t intend), more than a few American Jews – including my own mother and leaders of the Pennsylvania Jewish community, are claiming that Barack Obama is the new Hitler. And while these words are disgraceful, my intent is not to endorse Obama over McCain because of what certain McCain supporters have said or done. This is about a political sickness taking root in the Jewish community, one which threatens the memory of the Holocaust, the integrity of the Jewish people, and the future of this country.
When I first heard my mom make this comparison, I attributed it more to her love of provocation than to any genuine sentiment. But in light of a pro-McCain e-mail that went out to 75,000 Pennsylvania Jews suggesting that a vote for Barack Obama could bring another Holocaust, I realized that there was something deeply wrong. In fact, further checking has shown me that this trope has been circulating around the Republican Jewish Coalition and its supporters, for months.
How can the same people who pride themselves on maintaining the importance of Holocaust memory invoke the real horrors of the past as a political tool? Ironically, mobilizing that kind of fear and memory of past defeat was used by early Nazis to mobilize Germans in support of National Socialism in its early stages.
I appreciate the real terror which these otherwise good people must be experiencing to be driven to this kind of behavior. But do they not see that the comparison itself denigrates all that they value about the strength of this country and the accomplishments attained by Jews precisely because this is not Weimar Germany? America now is not Germany then, and it shows a profound lack of appreciation for American Jewish experience to miss that point.


It also concerns me that no actual repudiation of the e-mail has been forthcoming. The author was fired, but neither those who signed the letter nor the McCain-Palin Campaign have actually said that it was reprehensible. They simply say that “it went a little too far” or that they never actually read the document. Astounding — especially when it comes from people who have, properly in my view, questioned the language and metaphors used by some people supporting Obama.
This election should not be a Vince Lombardi football game in which winning is the only thing. And for Jewish leaders to contribute to that kind of polarization betrays not only their role as leaders, but the kind of intellectual openness of which Jews are so proud.
Take strong positions, this election is too important not to. And I don’t believe that either side can be really certain that their’s is the best path, not in these challenging times. But unless you advocate the assassination of Barack Obama, you dare not compare him to Hitler.
After all, if we could stop a real Hitler from attaining power, would any of us hesitate to kill him first? I hope not, and I can give you six million good reasons why not – 13 million if you allow me to count the non-Jewish victims of the Shoah. They are the same millions of reasons that I call upon to stop us from making that comparison, and make real amends for having ever done so.



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LAURA MUSHKAT

posted October 27, 2008 at 1:20 pm


DO YOU REALIZE THAT SOME PEOPLE JUST READ HEALDLINES???????????
That is like the Obama anti Christ crap that is going arround.
SHAME ON YOU.
MCCain and company learned that dirty tricks cost him the nomination against Georgie Porgie and he is trying to do the same thing to Obama.
Hugs
Laura



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Giora

posted October 27, 2008 at 1:42 pm


The Jews who posted this message don’t hurt Obama, they hurt the Jewish cause and they hurt Israel. Constantly crying wolf and treating any non white cocasian as a suspected terrorist creates an unnecessary association between US Jewry to right leanign fringe groups who are extreme and offensive.



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Gabrielle Birchak

posted October 27, 2008 at 2:49 pm


This title is a pathetic attempt to gain readers. Shame on you BeliefNet. What’s next? Are you going to write headlines about Britney Spears’ crotch?



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Andre Yamba Yamba

posted October 27, 2008 at 3:33 pm


Unfortunatelly for the rest of us you seem to be looking for a new Hitler.
Good lack.



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Mrs Denis

posted October 27, 2008 at 3:41 pm


I am glad a writer took the time to repudiate such comparison. Good Job. Hopefully, more people take the time to dennounce such comparisons.



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JONNYBULLET

posted October 27, 2008 at 3:47 pm


Obama Hitler, Obama anti Christ, Obama terrorist, Obama facist, Obama Marxist. This is just an other example of the Right Wingnuts and their manure spreader philosophy, along w/the simpleton automatons that follow it like lemmings w/their mouths open, thus becoming full of cr@p!!!!!



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jacksmith

posted October 27, 2008 at 3:53 pm


I see you all have not lost your fight :
GOOD! Because we have a lot to do. You! (the American people) are going to have to take back control of your elected government at every level, and set your government back on the right path of service to you, and the greater good of the World.
Barack Obama and the democrats are your best hope of doing that now. Tell your family, friends, and everyone you know to support them as best they can. Because the Bush McCain vote fraud, vote cheating, vote buying, vote manipulation machine is already hard at work to cheat you again. And we all know what a disaster that has been the past 8 years of Bush McCain.
Barack Obama and the democrats will need all the power you can give them at every level of government (Federal, State, County, and local City elected governments). Obama and the democrats will have an enormous mess to fix for the American people, and the rest of the World. A mess caused by the corrupt Bush McCain administration.
You see, starting back in 2000, and before 911, it was mostly the Republican governors, Republican legislatures, and county elected Republican officials that conspired with the corrupt Bush McCain administration to raise college, and university tuitions by the fastest, and highest rate increases in American history. Some state tuitions went up by as much as a WHOPPING! 30% in one year.
The reason the Bush McCain administration did this was to force struggling working class kids into the military to pay for the sudden jump in tuition. Which was forced on them by the corrupt Bush McCain administration, and their corrupt Republican Governors, and republican controlled state legislatures.
See, Bush McCain had plans to get us into all these immoral, foolish, criminal, and unnecessary wars from the start. So they could use these wars to seize power, and later to get reelected. But, for their evil plan to work they needed more volunteer soldiers struggling to pay for an education whose blood they could spill to help them seize more power. Remember Bush McCain’s “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!” theatrics.
The exploitation, and lost lives of these finest Americans is despicable, disgusting, immoral, corrupt and criminal. And it makes me SICK, and ANGRY!
You will have to vote for Obama, and the democrats in overwhelming numbers to overcome the Bush McCain vote fraud machine. Vote early if you can. Then help your fellow Americans cast their votes now, and on through election day. Vote for Obama, and the democrats like your life, and the lives of your loved ones depends on it. Because it does. You will not survive 4 more years of “Let Them Eat Cake” Bush McCain, and their republican allies.
Just look at the mess we have now.
You can fix this mess with your votes for Obama, and the democrats. And REMEMBER, no matter which of us may stumble or fall, the rest of you must continue to surge forward for Barack Obama, and the democrats, and for your-selves most of all. The children, and the World are counting on us.
It’s in your hands now. And I know you will get it done.
God bless all of you.
JACK SMITH – WORKING CLASS… :-)



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Dov W

posted October 27, 2008 at 4:43 pm


It gets even better (worse, I mean) in hardcopy…the Jewish Republicans took out a full page ad in the Jewish Week (NY weekly paper) a couple of weeks ago in which they delivered the same message, and added a picture of Obama at a rally labelled ‘Obama speaking in Germany’…frankly, I wondered why they didn’t just photoshop in a Heil Hitler salute!



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Moe Ben

posted October 27, 2008 at 5:05 pm


There are legitimate reasons for Americans, including Jewish Americans, to be concerned about a President Obama.



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Itsnottoolate

posted October 27, 2008 at 5:26 pm


You know, with so much ignorance and disinterest in past history, don’t think that history couldn’t repeat itself. There’s a good website that takes a look at the rise of Hitler and the similarities are downright uncanny. Wake up people, just because you don’t want to believe it, doesn’t mean it can’t happen.
History of Hitler link:
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/quiet.htm



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Itsnottoolate

posted October 27, 2008 at 5:34 pm


http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/index.htm
The above link directs you to a complete list of chapters regarding Hitler’s life, including events which paved the way for Hitler’s amazing rise to power, including the love affair the common people as well as the wealthy and influential had with him. Not unlike today with Obama.
Obama has big plans to turn this country upside down and he will have ample help by a one party government. There’s a reason why we have a two party system.
Note that those that were distortedly enamored by Hitler were probably not unlike the naysayers on this website and all over the internet.



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Robyn

posted October 27, 2008 at 5:40 pm


Thanks for this post. From where I stand (which is in grave danger of being declared a “backslidden, reprobate” Christian due to my point of view) Barack Obama is what is standing between us and the antichrist, the new Hitler and all the other things he’s being accused of being and supporting. I’m not calling McCain antichrist or Hitler, but the tone of his campaign is certainly stirring up false fears and anger and could lead to riots and revolution. His economic and foreign policies could lead to the kind of chaos that could bring us to the type of situation that would bring bring America under the kind of international censure American Christians would consider to be typical of the antichrist.
America is being called to national responsibility from within and without. Obama is the one who wants to lead America in that direction. McCain plan is to continue to lead us in the path that is destroying our economy and our respect in the eyes of the world. His platform is one of hopelessness and if he wins, it will be a victory based on lies and fear mongering, not that of any merit of his philosophies. It is sad that people of faith have allowed themselves to be so programmed by those who claim to be our “shepherds” that we are afraid of wisdom and common sense because we’ve been taught that the antichrist will seem to have such good answers when he appears that we have to avoid anyone with common sense and compassion because we fear electing the antichrist or Hitler!



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watchin from a distance

posted October 27, 2008 at 5:47 pm


I suppose maybe there are legitimate reasons for americans to be concerned about a President McCain.
We could spend hours coming up with rumor, innuendo, and exaggeration to say that the “other side” must evil incarnate.
Quite simply, we are robbing ourselves and our children’s future if we decide our vote simply on what one media source or blog claims is fact.
Remove the BS, and there is plenty of reasons to vote for either of these candidates and I think both men may have the vision to get us out of this crud.
Unfortunately though, I think McCain’s vision is clouded by poor judgement and really bad advice.



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Beruriah

posted October 27, 2008 at 8:30 pm


I find this sort of rhetoric disgusting, especially coming from fellow Jews. I cannot even fathom why any Jew would be a Republican, unless it’s solely and entirely based on thinking it would be good for Israel if America tried to change every regime unfriendly to it, and prop up a ‘democratic’ government in its place. If that is the reason, then that’s shameful. America would be bankrupt and our future destroyed here if we continue much further along the neo-con road to war and ruin. America is about liberty, equality, oppourtunity, and tolerance. It is not a fist to be launched at Israel’s enemies. Indeed, diplomacy on the part of America and her allies would serve Israel’s long term interests better, in my opinion. Regardless- America is MY HOME, and I won’t let it be destroyed by the neo-conservative empire building agenda. The democratic party more closely reflects Jewish values.



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Solomon2

posted October 27, 2008 at 8:57 pm


Is BO Hitler? How would we know? Entire years are missing from this guy’s resume, and the mainstream media don’t give a damn. They prefer to examine anyone who questions Obama closely with a fine-tooth comb. IMO, this bias is responsible for at least twenty points of public opinion, and a vote for McCain is a vote to reject bias in the mainstream media – only then will they look at themselves to consider that they may be in error. If BO wins, they’ll all be strutting like peacocks, because they’ll know they made a know-nothing President, so he’ll owe everything to them throughout his office, or else they can squeeze him to zero in a snap.



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chinkjunior

posted October 27, 2008 at 9:38 pm


Hey Sol, LOVED that last comment. Could have put in anything with your first line, i.e. Is BO a pedophile? Is BO a chain-smoking Lesbian? Why Hitler? Liste, I am not in love with the guy, but will pull the lever (even though it will cost me a PISSload of tax money, etc.)just to punish the conservatives in this country for shoving President Bumble Putz down our throats.



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Solomon2

posted October 27, 2008 at 10:07 pm


Prez Bumble Putz was President Ford, who was ridiculed for hitting his head on the doorway of his own helicopter. Do you really mean to vote for (another) Jimmy Carter “just to punish the conservatives”?



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Itsnottoolate

posted October 27, 2008 at 11:09 pm


Wow, what a site. If I weren’t a Christian, I probably wouldn’t like Jewish people either. It’s so ironic that it’s the Republicans, the CONSERVATIVES, the Christians, that have always supported Israel and it’s people. I’ve always found it so ironic that the very people we support and made a decision to love are so “ugly”. You may just get what you are asking for in the next few years. I wonder how many Jewish people voted for Hitler? Do you guy think Obama is your friend? Are you kidding yourselves?



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Scott R.

posted October 28, 2008 at 8:22 am


Christians like Jews? I wouldn’t be able to tell from that anti-Semitic comment, Itsnottoolate.
Conservatives support Israel because they pray that we’ll go there and that Jesus will come back, not because they give a damn about Jews. We’re pawns. If Israel didn’t exist, I think anti-Semitism in this country would run a lot worse, because there would be no place for us to go in the fantasies of those who would love us to leave.
IOW, I don’t trust conservatives protestations of “love” for the Jewish people. As your post demonstrates, Itsnottoolate
ON the topic – some people get a complete psychotic reaction to Obama. Maybe that’s why a plot to murder him was just broken up.



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Jeffrey Cahn

posted October 28, 2008 at 10:52 am


Perhaps more to the point is that being so irresponsible in speech and criticism is so very much the very kind of “Leshan Harah prohibited by the core values espoused in our Torah and which as a unit are the resaon we are still here and growing in strength and influence, notwithstanding all the despots who have tried over the millennia to put us down. It truly is a “tree of life” to them that hold fast to it–all of it, not selectively to the portions which happen to be situationally comfortable at the moment.
If we are to be Jews, let us act as Jews should act, not like haridans and scolds. Surely, as George Santyana long ago wisely observed, “Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.” Jews do not forget haShoah, and it might be fair to say that for most of us, actively remembering it and its lessons are already in our genes, hopefully as much as cleaving to Torah principles that have sustained us since Sinai.
Stealing a reputation through “Leshan Harah” is equally forbidden, just as converting a lost object without the kind of efforts the Talmud (Bava Kama) explains are required of us first to find its true owner. It is simply no answer to make the specious claim that difficult times require values to be ignored in service of a greater perceived goal. That in itself is second guessing the word of G-d. That kind of shameful analysis is simply not a Jewish analysis, and should not be espoused or adopted. There will probably always be “haters”, gossips, fear mongers and those who seek a goal by any means available, however low, however base, but Jews, guided by Torah principles should not join in, for to do so is to denounce our faith and its principles, which ultimately can do much more damage by helping to establish such conduct as the acceptable norm. Ultimately we will be the victim. Our memories cannot forget the lesson of such conduct being abroad in the land, as pogroms in Russia and the Nazi years in Germany so richly prove. We were the victims in each of these cases, and are laying the groundwork for a repetition should such irresponsible name-calling and reputation-bashing continue to be the battle cry of people who claim to be Jews but fail to live up to Jewish values and principles.



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moodeget

posted October 28, 2008 at 11:10 am


Let’s Hope that Experience and Character Really Count
Earlier this week Democratic vice-presidential candidate, Senator Joe Biden, said that Obama, as president, would be faced with an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy during the first 6 months of his presidency. He was correct in one respect. He finally identified SECURITY as a primary issue and opened the door to discuss one of the most vital issues facing this country – AMERICA’S SECURITY.
It brings into focus the question of who is ready to be commander-in-chief and most able to deal effectively with international and military problems. The following excerpt from McCain the Stalwart by Charles Krauthammer, in TownHall.com on Friday, October 24, provides a necessary response to Biden’s remarks:
The case for McCain is straightforward. The financial crisis has made us forget, or just blindly deny, how dangerous the world out there is. We have a generations-long struggle with Islamic jihadism, an apocalyptic soon-to-be-nuclear Iran, a nuclear-armed Pakistan in danger of fragmentation, a rising Russia pushing the limits . . .
Who do you want answering that phone at 3 a.m.? A man who`s been cramming on these issues for the last year, who`s never had to make an executive decision affecting so much as a city, let alone the world? A foreign policy novice instinctively inclined to the flabbiest, most vaporous multilateral ism (e.g., the Berlin Wall came down because of “a world that stands as one”), and who refers to the most deliberate act of war since Pearl Harbor as “the tragedy of 9/11,” a term more appropriate for a bus accident?
Or do you want a man who is the most prepared, most knowledgeable, most serious foreign policy thinker in the United States Senate? A man who not only has the best instincts, but has the honor and the courage to, yes, put country first, as when he carried the lonely fight for the surge that turned Iraq from catastrophic defeat into achievable strategic victory?
There`s just no comparison. Obama`s own running mate warned this week that Obama`s youth and inexperience will invite a crisis — indeed a crisis “generated” precisely to test him. Can you be serious about national security and vote on Nov. 4 to invite that test?
And how will he pass it? Well, how has he fared on the only two significant foreign policy tests he has faced since he`s been in the Senate? The first was the surge. Obama failed spectacularly. He not only opposed it. He tried to denigrate it, stop it and, finally, deny its success.
The second test was Georgia, to which Obama responded instinctively with evenhanded moral equivalence, urging restraint on both sides. McCain did not have to consult his advisers to instantly identify the aggressor.
Todays economic crisis, like every other in our history, will in time pass. But the barbarians will still be at the gates. Whom do you want on the parapet? I`m for the guy who can tell the lion from the lamb.
Since the Hitler era the stakes have never been higher. Americans will soon decide if experience with years of international involvement and military expertise are needed in this treacherous world. America’s enemies have proved they will stop at nothing to dominate all of Western Civilization. Let’s hope that on November 4th voters understand the threat and will vote accordingly.
Esther Levens
Founder & CEO
Unity Coalition for Israel



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Crystll

posted October 28, 2008 at 11:22 am


You know, this was a good commentary, until the second to the last paragraph. Do you realize how many nut-cases there in this country alone that would take you at your word and pull the trigger, because in effect, you’ve just given them permission?? There are too many people who have not only a false view, but a down right dangerous view of what Obama stands for and assassination is exactly what they would like to see happen. The FBI has already thwarted one planned attack that we know about. How many others could there be just under the surface? Rabbi, since you do write to the public, you really should temper how you offer your views.
Crystll



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Bruce Braviroff

posted October 28, 2008 at 11:39 am


I keep looking at people being so concerned about the way the country seems to be coming together behind Obama and then comparing it to Hitler. Yet, not to long ago, the country came together behind a single President and he won his first & second elections by what could only be call “landslides,” yet no one compared him to anyone negative at all. Are we (Jew & non-Jew) comparing Obama to Hitler, simply because we can’t look past the major differences he represents to the rest of the poeple running our country?
I don’t know why but, Obama’s support in the world, really reminds me of Ronald Reagan. People followed him around as he ran for President and really thought he could do no wrong. He was a voice offering the country a way of the “darkness” we had just spent the last 8 plus years in. He was a radical change from the people who had been living in the White House for most of our lives.
So my question to all, would be saying all of this if Obama looked more like us? Is it not time we stop playing the “hate card” and grow up as a country? Both men running for President are good strong men who love the US, why can’t we embrace that simple fact?
I am so tired of the endless lies told by ohter wise smart people. You should live in California and be listening to the “Anti-Gay Marriage” ads. They like the comparsion of Obama to Hitler, are nothing but feeding peole’s fears. When do we simply stop taking part in these types of lies? Is it ever going to happen?



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S H Ziegler

posted October 28, 2008 at 11:47 am


Who is the wildest nut case Mccain in his senility his weird wife who won’t let him out of her site (she knows how she got him in adultery or silly Lieberman a sad joke as a representative of our people (he grins and follows maccain like a sick puppy). Remember Nazis were fascists the direct opposite of a progressive liberal like Obama. We have had a retarded president (bush II ) I am sure anyone else will do better



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Chana

posted October 28, 2008 at 11:55 am


Wise people seek solutions
The ignorant only cast blame (Tao 79)



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B B Johnson

posted October 28, 2008 at 11:56 am


Your mother is right. Obama is just like Hitler. He is being treated as a Messiah, just as the little Corporal was.
Obama said in one of his writings that he will stand with the Muslems. Who are the Muslems? They are the same Muslems that are sworn to destroy Isreal.
It doesn’t matter how it got that way, the bottom line is that there is a movement in the Arab Muslim world to destroy all infidels. That includes you and me.
Obama was born to a whacked out white mamma and a philandering married African Negro daddy in Africa,(his own relatives say this). He spent time in Indonesia in a radiacal Wahabbi Muslim school. He attented a church here in the U S A, whose reverend wright profusly called on God to damn America!
The little Corporal received backing by Jewish Bankers way back when. Then came Crystal Night!
I realize that Jewish people tend to vote Democratic. I hope that you think long and hard before voting this time.



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Tracie

posted October 28, 2008 at 12:00 pm


Obama IS a socialist and a marxist. He is TOO dangerous to be our president. He wants to change the Constitution to benefit those who have no incentive to get out and work for a living. He said something about ‘land redistribution’. Like I’m gonna let someone come take MY land that I pay taxes on, so someone who is to lazy to work,and ALWAYS expects a government handout,to take even 1/10 of an acre of my land. NO WAY. OVER MY DEAD BODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
McCAIN/PALIN 08!!!! PRESERVE OUR CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Carla Alexander

posted October 28, 2008 at 12:03 pm


I can’t believe that well-educated people would even think of such a ridiculous statement as Obama being the next Hitler. Senator Obama is our hope of coming out of this awful financial and moral situation that we live in. Wake up and smell the coffee. Realize when you have a good, hardworking loyal American who is fighting for the average Joe like you and me to have a better life.



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chinkjunior

posted October 28, 2008 at 12:04 pm


When Greenspan himself from up on high realizes an inherent truth about the free market and banks, that McCain and the conservatives do not, then yes, Sol, it is time to vote for Carter to get back at the conservatives.
I appreciate the religious right for their help with the State of Israel. But as many have pointed out here, Itsnottoolate, there was no great love for the jews in america by the religious right before the establishment of the State of Israel.
As for security, I want you to close your eyes for one moment, and imagine you are Osmam Bin Laden on 9/10/01. Only in your wildest dreams could you imagine that a short 7 years later the US dollar would be devalued, the economy in shambles, the US military being bled on 2 fronts with no obvious end to at least one of those conflicts, the internationla reputation of the US shot, etc. In short, you accomplished everything you intended by hijacking 4 planes with boxcutters. What’s my point? If McCain listens to the same consevative security “gurus” that Bush did, than we are in big trouble.
As for high stakes, we are having a little collective amnesia here. Remeber Sting singing about his hope that Russians loving their children as we love ours? Remeber the Cold War, Cuban Missile crisis, ICBM’s in Europe, KAL shot down by russian fighters? Come now friends. Our civilization is intact, there aren’t a thousand nuclear warheads sitting in subs in NY harbor. Let’s breath a little.



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losan

posted October 28, 2008 at 12:05 pm


thank you mr johnson at last someone with a head on their shoulders



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Anne M Johnson

posted October 28, 2008 at 12:18 pm


Carla, it appears to me that YOU have not smelled the coffee yet. Brad you need to remember that the German’s called for change and who rose up to that call? HITLER. History does repeat itself. Obama is not well enough known yet, and what we do know is not good enough to vote for him. Heaven help us for the next four years if he gets in.



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Scott R.

posted October 28, 2008 at 12:19 pm


BB and Tracie,
I cannot believe how you could possibly lie through your teeth without even thiking about it (unless, God forbid, you are so ignorant that you actually believe what you write),
How can you libel another human being in such a manner? That is a sin in both religions here.
I am ashamed of this country. We have become ignorant fools and idiots, and that is how people like Bush have been able to manipulate us into giving up our freedoms.
We don’t deserve what we have, and we don’t have the character we had 60 years ago. If we ever faced a crisis like WWII again, we would lose. And we would deserve to.



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Cher

posted October 28, 2008 at 12:20 pm


No he isn’t Hitler. But he may be far worse than Hitler. If he becomes President…it not be good for America nor good for our Constitution. If you want your guns removed from your home’s then vote for Obama…cause it’s sure to happen. If you beleive in milions of babies dying in mothers wombs..then vote for Obama. If you think homosexual is right…then vote for Obama. But watch your homeland be ravaged by forces unseen at this moment. As the clock ticks….Obama’s unseen forces (shadow people) are preparing for the take over. Obama will not protect Israel..oh he might play the politic games till he get into White House…then the Major Crisis will set in. It’s up to American’s to make America or break it.
Vote McCain/Palin 08′.



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Anne M Johnson

posted October 28, 2008 at 12:27 pm


Brad, the Obama is a Hitler, is not a slur, it is a serious concern and worry.



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Adrian Windsor in Scottsdale, Arizona

posted October 28, 2008 at 12:48 pm


The idea that Obama might become president really, really scares me. Please let us NOT put that man in office.



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Fyra

posted October 28, 2008 at 12:52 pm


Is Barack Obama Hitle?.. From what I know of him he is an OBAMAnation of everything that is good, decent and right in this world.



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irene

posted October 28, 2008 at 1:06 pm


Thank you for speaking out against the instrumentalization of the Shoah as a political fear-mongering tool. This is the same kind of rhetoric that people use to defend all sorts of atrocities by the Israeli government against the Palestinians, and I hope that you are just as forceful in your condemnation of such tactics when used in that arena. At the same time, I found your assertion that it would be justifiable (even necessary?) to murder a rising leader who resembled Hitler. This is a highly irresponsible suggestion which apes the very tactics of those you’re condemning. Are you saying that brutality is the only way to counter brutality? What about civic action, education, reasoned debate, even compassion — finding the humanity in those who would deny mine?
And as an aside, I also am glad to hear you mention the 7 million non-Jews who perished in the genocide of WWII. I think it’s very problematic that these “7 million” are not regularly invoked by the Jewish community alongside “our” 6 million lost. Isolating the Jews who died from the rest of the genocide victims is not only an insult to their (the Jews’) memory; it undermines efforts to productively recognize links between genocides that would help us to *stop others from occurring* — whether they target Jews *or anyone else*.



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Barry

posted October 28, 2008 at 1:24 pm


I’m an Obama supporter, but that is beside the point. Let’s cut to the chase.
When people continually circulate email, etc., calling Obama a closet Muslim (or the like), and all the similar lies — often in the breath right after attacking his long-term affiliation with the very Christian church of Rev. Wright — it is exactly the sort of “big lie” propaganda technique used by the Nazis. It is the politics of fear and divisiveness, of hatred and bigotry.
For Jews to embrace such tactics is, in my opinion, profoundly shameful, and dangerous as well. We cannot afford to forget that what is used to victimize anyone, can all too easily be used to victimize *us* the next time around.



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J.Kravette

posted October 28, 2008 at 1:35 pm


Carla and Brad,you say that Obama is a true American and patriot,then how do you explain him not paying respect to the flag when the Pledge Of Allegiance is said,and the idea that he spent $500,000 to refurbish his plane and removing the flag from the tail section and not wanting to wear the American flag lapel pin?
Are Obama supporters so anxious for change that they are mesmerized by his eloquence and not looking at his total lack of experience in governmental issues? Not to mention his relationships with so many unsavory characters. Are we not responsible for the actions of our past as in the people we have linked ourselves to?
I don’t propose to have all the answers and don’t think that McCain/Palin are the best this country has to offer,but in light of the choices I believe we are in better hands with the experience they bring to the table. Do you realize that Sarah Palin has a higher security clearance than all the other candidates have as she is Commnander-In-Chief of the National Guard in Alaska,which is our first line of defence?



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Cher

posted October 28, 2008 at 1:44 pm


Barry..why don’t you explain this!!!
A Palestinian Authority newspaper reported on Sunday that Arab residents of Gaza are randomly calling Americans at home in hopes of persuading them to vote for Democratic candidate Senator Barack Obama in next month’s US presidential election.
Now you tell me why they are so interested in our elections! What about Corn..explain that! What about his minister who was caught on tape saying “G-d da-n America and he was speaking hate toward white people. He was not a true Minister…..a true minister of God would not be a building behind closed doors preaching the garbage he was.
What about abortion and homosexuality….this is what God forbids. Yet Obama stands for it.
I can go on all day and give you a list load of why he should not be our President. You can vote for Obama..thats your right! I will not!



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Russ

posted October 28, 2008 at 2:16 pm


The nazi’s where not socialist, they where fascist, hate mongoring murderers. A good shot of reform socialism is not anything to be feared and will go along way to help solve many of this country’s troubles. “The Palin” is the book banning ,influence peedling right wing nut job that is to be feared. Use your mind and vote Democrat.



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chinkjunior

posted October 28, 2008 at 2:45 pm


Cher, it’s OK for you not to vote for Obama. I am not calling you a “racist” or a “book burner” or some other epitaph; or better yet, I am not ascribing to either Senator McCain or Gov Palin similar epitaphs. But what the blogger’s point is that when you ratchet up the volume on this “Hitler” stuff, you lose all perspective of fact and history. There is a level of histrionics on this blog, mainly by those who support Senator McCain, which leads me to believe that politically, they know they are beat- the economy is in shambles, our reputation in ruin. In many ways, this is the election of 1980. So knowing they are beat, they vilify the opposing candidate with vile smears.



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Lisa

posted October 28, 2008 at 2:51 pm


I am absolutely ashamed. I have seen more hatred here directed towards Mr. Obama (when did it become acceptable to just call someone by their last name with no title or deference, much in the way we are called by anti-semitic sympathizers) and I am ashamed that many of our people are falling into the Republican ideology. While for many years the Republicans were responsible for many of our civil rights and their creation, that unfortunately was over a century ago. The Republicans of TODAY are often conservative Xtians, who interpret the Old Testament wrong, pick and choose which commandments and laws are important to follow (homosexuality is wrong, but it is okay to eat whatever, sleep with whomever as long as they are the opposite sex, etc)…I apologize for my anger, but our country is at a crossroads and to compare someone of color to HITLER is just wrong. Are we so afraid of “change” that we will do whatever it takes to keep it from happening? I thought that at the very foundation of many Rabbinical Councils were the POSSIBILITIES…that even though there is a foundation for tradition, what are the needs of the people NOW? Are we so scared that we will toss in with those who on the surface support Israel, but not for the betterment of the tribes but for their own apocolyptic reasons?
The argument about his experience is such a moot point. Like Moses was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO experienced that he didn’t need the guidance of HIM to get his own people to listen to him. Maybe it is Obama’s very INEXPERIENCE that we should be counting on since that means he will be forging a new path and not doing what has been done before. Dangerous? Maybe. But worth a shot. Like all the experience of his predecessor and those in the senate and the upper echelons of our political machine has gotten us anything but a war, a huge bailout, bankruptcy and some of the most difficult times since the depression. Yeah, experience. Look what it has gotten us so far…
Our our own hatreds so deeply ingrained that we cannot see beyond them? That we as a people could be dragged into the racism, sexism and out and out ignorant mud-slinging that has prevailed does not sound like the behavior of a chosen people.
Shame on us. Shame on us.



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Frank David Caraveo

posted October 28, 2008 at 2:55 pm


I am not jewish. However, everything good that is actual in the Judeo-Christian History and Society, came from the long and wonderful history of the Jewish People. The basis of all good came from the Mount of Sinai, given to Moses nothing than Adonaii: The One and Only.
If we really follow these Laws given to Moses and trully have faith on the ONE who delivered The Chosen from every cathastrophy, then why these aprehensiveness and resentments. Is not “His People” alive and well today? Adhere to Adonaii Laws from Sinai (Love you Adonaii with all your heart with all your soul and your neighbor as you love yourself) If Adonaii the One and Only is with us, Who could be aginst us!



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Neshama

posted October 28, 2008 at 3:02 pm


Jews need to realize that Obama is a dangerous person especially to them! He IS a MUSLIM, in spite of what he says. There is a school record from Hawaii registering him as a MUSLIM and as an Indonesian citizen! Now in Islam a child always goes with the father’s religion, and Islam is a lifelong commitment. You don’t leave Islam without a fatwa being put on your head and being marked for death! This is the truth. Look it up for yourself in the Koran, or ask a Muslim. Both his birth father and his adoptive Indonesian father were both muslims. He spent several years in a Muslim school in Indonesia before going to Hawaii.
Read Jerome Corsi’s book “The Obama Nation”. It is a factual book that was thoroughly researched and has footnotes, upon footnotes to back up what Corsi is saying about Obama.
This is why he is being supported heavily by Muslims, because they know that his X-tian facade is just that, he’s a phony and he has lied about a lot of things, his association with a known American terrorist Bill Ayers. This alone would make him ineligible for any government job requiring a high security clearance, yet he can be elected to the presidency? This is nuts. Why are there 5 more lawsuits in other states besides the one in Pennsylvania asking for Obama to show his real birth certificate? And… why has he refused to do so? If he wanted to clear up any misgivings about his citizenship he could do so very easily, if he really is an American citizen? I don’t know about you, but I know where my real birth certificate is and I know which hospital I was born in, as do most people. The document Obama has on his website is NOT a “Certificate of Live Birth” it is merely a “Registration of Birth” which is way different.
He is so far to the left it frankly scares me to death, and I am an independant voter. As for Russ’s comment on the Nazi Party they were the “Nationalist Socialist Party of Germany”. See the word ‘socialist’ in there! I don’t want someone who is a socialist who is going to “spread the wealth around”!
I don’t equate Obama with Hitler, but I think Obama is being used by some very wealthy, very savvy people and he is there puppet on a string. Mark my words if he is elected it is not going to be good for Israel, Jews, or Americans! People, fellow Jews, please pull your heads out of the sand before it is too late.



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Doug

posted October 28, 2008 at 3:02 pm


I find it interesting that you object to anti-Obama critiques but are silent when the most vicious lies are told about McCain or Palin. Barack Obama is not pro-Israel, and neither is Joe Biden. The latter’s record demonstrates that. Obama has no record, but surrounds himself with a large number of radical anti-Semites. And anyone who believes “reform socialism” will help this country understands nothing about socialism. And the viciousness with which anyone who dares challenge Obama or Biden is attacked, the use of children to make messianic Obama videos, etc., is reminiscent of Venezuela, Cuba, or the Mexico of the 1970s and 1980s. That is at least as scary as anything else about Obama.



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Olavo de Carvalho

posted October 28, 2008 at 3:02 pm


Dear Rabbi Hirschfield,
John McCain was called Hitler far before Obama was. George W. Bush was called Hitler. Henry Kissinger was called Hitler. Ronald Reagan was called Hitler. Did you ever call these slurs reprehensible? Does Obama being a Black man entitle him to special protection against hate speech? Are blacks entitled to special self-victimization rights? Please remember that black liberation theorists themselves claim the pharaohs of Egypt to have been black, which means they praise their own race for having enslaved the Jews. Please remember that black Muslims enslaved Europeans far before the first European slave-trader arrived to Africa. Millions of Europeans were taken to Mecca as slaves and many of them were castrated underway to serve as eunuchs in the harems. Nobody likes to remember these facts, but Blacks are men like any other, they are sinners like you and me, they are not a people of poor innocent victims in a world of white oppressors.
Best wishes,
Olavo de Carvalho



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Donald Wolberg

posted October 28, 2008 at 3:10 pm


A useful tactic of the old Left and the old Right was to create straw-men to deflect attention from the real issues. One gets the sense that Obama supporters feel that “gap” closing, and the word is out to “deflect” with another tried and true strawman argument. In this case, an imaginary comparison of Mr. Obama and Adolph Hitler is created so that Jews, always sensitive to unjust comparisons and, of course, anything Nazis, will respond and defend Mr. Obama.
Unfortunately, this is not the 60′s, at least not yet reborn, and there is of course no comparison between Mr. Obama and Hitler by any sensible person. There are, however, a very troubling recod of Obama associations that have the potential impact on Jewish and certainly Israel’s interests. Mr. Obama’s association with the racist Mr. Wright, not noted for rational discourse, is a 24-year association. Mr. Jackson and Mr. Sharpton cannot be seen as intellectually gifted individuals “sensitive to Jewish issues.” Indeed both have been guilty of good, old fashioned demeaning antisemitic diatribes, and Mr. Jackson promised major changes in the U.S.-Israel relationship if Mr. Obama is elected. Mr. Obama’s association with leftist terrorists are well known (albeit supposedly “retired” terrorists. Mr. Obama seems to have been close for a lon time with Mr. Ayers and Ms Dorn, “gentle” folks who wanted to bomb Washington, D.C. and other places before Muslim terrorists figured it was a good idea. Then there is the matter of the Arab connections and statements made to Muslim groups supporting Hamas and other fine organizations.
Whether the effort to deflect questions of Mr. Obama’s anti-jewish and anti-Israel associations will succeed will be seen after the vote count is in. It would be unfortunate if it did, not only for Jews or Israel, but it seems to me, the nation as a whole. One can hope that reason will prevail.



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Eugene

posted October 28, 2008 at 3:57 pm


Here are couple site I came across today…Obama is NOT good for America, Israel or the world…http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5983 and http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2008/10/more-on-the-links-between-obama-and.html Obama’s ties to C.A.I.R. and The Nation of Islam.



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Itsnottoolate

posted October 28, 2008 at 4:01 pm


Uh Barry… Obama has a 50/50 chance of being either a Christian or a Muslim. At this point, it seems somewhat irrelevant to guess. The church he “attended” is a front and part of building his career aspirations. His mother was at best “agnostic” but according to her high school friends, “atheist”, never attending a christian church and raising her son to believe in “all religions are good” relativism. His father was born into a muslim family, and also reported to be an atheist.
His religious background is nebulous.



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miriam Hyman

posted October 28, 2008 at 4:16 pm


if you are so concerned about the well being of Israel – why not live there and be part of the community and protect the country rather than being in the US pretending to really care. How dare we as Jews be so ignorant and only look in the bushes from a narrow place. Isn’t that how the nazi’s looked at us. We must as Jews look at all sides and look to see how we can create peace rather than preach hatred. Hatred bring more hatred and trains people to be terrorists.



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Itsnottoolate

posted October 28, 2008 at 4:20 pm


Response to Scott R…….
First of all I am FAR from anti-semetic. Not even close, nonethless disappointed in your anti-Christian worldview you penned.
Uh, without Israel, Scott, it’s highly unlikely we’d be having this conversation…or Jews or Christians or even the Bible…. You sound bitter that a conservative or a Christian would only favor you because they are commanded to. What more should you want? I don’t know you. I think it is safe to say that some Christians are easier to like and get along with than others, and the same could be said for Jewish people. Perhaps you should not judge everyone by their affiliation, I don’t.
Whether you want to admit it or not, we have much more that binds us than separates us. We believe in the same God, the same old testament. I have NOTHING against Jewish people, I actually do love them – and the reason why is simple. Because I love the Lord, the Bible and I believe it to be without error. Do you?
In our secular society, there are no shortage of “haters” of just about everything out there. Embrace your allies, don’t alienate them and taunt them and test their faith.



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Al Eastman

posted October 28, 2008 at 4:22 pm


Once again the regressive liberals have spun a comment all out of proportion. Nowhere in that letter, that you may read for yourselves at http://storage.jta.org/docs/email.pdf is Senator Obama mentioned in the same sentance, or paragraph with tle late and unlamented leader of the Third Reich. In fact his name doesn’t even appear in the letter.
The letter does open with the following:
“In the 5,769 years of our people, there has never been a more important time for us to take proactive measures in oeder to stop a second Holocaust. Israel faces immeasurable threats from its neighbors, most especially Iran.”
Obama is not mentioned in that letter for another SIX paragraphs where this question is raised: “What do we really know about Barak Obama?”
Rabbi, YOU of all people should be truthful in your Internet postings. Nowhere in the links you provided in your column does a statement exist from any Pennsylvania Jewish Community leaders calling and/or equating Obama to Hitler. YOU owe every reader of today’s cheap shot blog an apology.



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Scott R

posted October 28, 2008 at 4:23 pm


“never attending a christian church and raising her son to believe in “all religions are good” relativism.”
Well you know what? Jews say the same thing.
I really, really think some of the people who post here are Republican shills.
Obama is a Muslim, Obama is a Nazi, Obama is Hitler, Obama is a space alien…
HOW ABOUT SOME BACK-UP?
How about legitimate proof?
You can’t publish most of what is written here in a newspaper because it’s unsubstantiated. You can’t graduate high school without writing an essay that can be substantiated, and I don’t think a lot of people, in fact, did.
Obama and Jesse Jackson hate each other. So how will Jackson change policy towards Israel?
Obama’s grandmother raised him a Xian.
If Mr. Obama were not black, most of this would not be said. There is terror in parts of this country that a black man will be elected president.
If a Jew partakes of this BS, it is even more disgusting. I guess we learned nothing at the hands of Xian persecutors for 1,900 years. Which brings me to another point: Jews have no business voting for the Xian Party, I mean Republican Party. They do not have our interests, save conversion, in their hearts.



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Scott R.

posted October 28, 2008 at 4:28 pm


Itsnottoolate,
I as a Jew will decide what is or is not anti-Semitic, not you.
And not trying to be contradictory, but as a Jew, I take the minority opinion: I do not believe you and I worship the same god. So we actually have nothing in common, and we can never be allies.



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Itsnottoolate

posted October 28, 2008 at 5:31 pm


Scott R,
I as a Christian will decide if I am anti-semetic, not you! If you don’t take my word for it, that is now your problem.
Your comment about the same God is interesting and 100% okay. I understand that you would feel that way. Whether or not YOU believe it, Christians do absolutely believe we worship and believe in the same God!



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A.W.

posted October 28, 2008 at 5:48 pm


The following radio broadcast presents a number of interesting ideas and concepts worthy of careful consideration.Israel National Radio. ‘Latest Radio Shows’ by Tamar Yonah
While I am not publicing endorsing any candidate for US president, I think the enclosed broadcast concerning Obama is troubling. Especially the quote from Obama’s book, the Audacity of Hope.
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” (Page No. ?) Context? Application? Motivation? Justification?
However, considering what these kinds of statements (there are other questionable comments) seem to represent, it has given me considerable reason to look further behind the public pronouncements of both canidates.Yes, I think McCain is a little scary too1



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Stanley Friedman

posted October 28, 2008 at 6:14 pm


When will JEWS wake up to reality. McCain is a proven ally of Israel and Jews world wide. Obama is not. Do something for Jews and vote for McCain



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windbender

posted October 28, 2008 at 6:35 pm


I, as a Jew, will stand with the Muslims – or any other people – should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. We’ve done it with Blacks, Hispanics, Gays and every other minority which, like ourselves, has been persecuted for being “the other” which is so easily identified and too often eagerly condemned.
Obama has called Israel “our most stalwart ally”. If you want to repeat and dwell on his words, dwell on those.



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Dave

posted October 28, 2008 at 6:40 pm


I didn’t know Hitler was a Muslim.
See, they’re completely different.



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Joy

posted October 28, 2008 at 6:55 pm


I am so disgusted with the smut,lies and distortions of the McCain
compagne .It continues to shock me just how far they will go. In My
opinion McCain is his own ally . winning is the only thing that is important to him.I am an old shite Sourthern Lady. I will vote a
Democratic tiket . I am at outs with some of my Family over all this bull that is being spouted from McCain/Palin.
It Just surprises me How anyone can get caught up in that.



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Cher

posted October 28, 2008 at 6:56 pm


Chink…..the country in a shambles!!! I remind you of this…
When Democrats took control of the House under Pelosi and Reid, when they took control of Senate and Congress…our gas shot sky high to $4.00 a gallon (Democrats caused it….get it.) Our food went up. All of a sudden our economy is falling. Bush did not do this…but thanks to democrats who took control of Government offices….we begin to have a crisis. Think about that for a while! Blame corruption also…but I bet you Obama had his had in this problem we have today.
Search for the truth…..



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Cher

posted October 28, 2008 at 7:10 pm


The truth will be known if Obama become President….lets see what happens (just a few days away)…lets see him spread the wealth and make everybody so poor. By the time he tax business to death…but some don’t get it . When you tax to death a business…it do them more harm cause they have to pay their workers….If business suffers under Obama..then workers will begin to suffer. How about the companies who have Health Insurance for workers. Anyone with brains would know that Obama is out for the take. Wake up America before its too late. Do you think he feel sorry for poor…NO HE DO NOT! It’s all a act for right now…when he is in office…his heart is set on Africa..not America. Did he not say in Germany …(I am a World Citizen and I will bring all religions together.) It never work. Go look at video’s that prove what Obama is all about.



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Scott R.

posted October 28, 2008 at 7:11 pm


28 years of deregulation – under Republicans – killed the economy. Republicans own the oil companies. It doesn’t matter if the Democrats control Congress – the greedy oil companies did this to us.
Windbender – thank you. Any decent American will stand with a persecuted minority, and I will also stand with the Muslims if the right wing loons decide to harm them.
Itsnot, I worship one God, not three, and I do not worship a man as a god: Shema Y’Israel Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai echad!



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Cher

posted October 28, 2008 at 7:19 pm


Scott do you know the history…..Clinton was in for 8 years. . 28 years of deregulation under Republicans…..you got me laughing!
But those who want Obama in don’t see truth….do they. Truth hurts!
And life goes on for a short while longer (as we know it).



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Your Name

posted October 28, 2008 at 7:30 pm


OK Cher, you do the math: Clinton was in for 8 years, Reagan and Bushes for 20. Which number is bigger? Let’s also factor in that Clinton had an all-Pub Congress for 6 years. So that means there was really Democratic rule for 2 years. And Bush has refused to work with the Democratic Congress since ’06.
Your statement doesn’t wash Cher. It’s just the fantasies of a person who wants to believe their party has the good of the common person at heart.
The Pubs hold themselves out as the party of “family values”. Hmm – David Vitter, Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Ted Stevens…
They have DESTROYED this country. Trust them with Israel?! I wouldn’t vote them as dog catcher, much less trust them with my child,



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Cher

posted October 28, 2008 at 7:46 pm


Your Name…..did I say I was Republican?



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Scott R.

posted October 28, 2008 at 8:24 pm


You didn’t need to.



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Steve Powers

posted October 28, 2008 at 8:59 pm


It’s amazing to see the incredible ignorance displayed here. The biggest threat to the future of American Judaism is from the self-destructive Liberal Jews. Obama has so many undeniable relationships with blatant, outspoken anti-semites and PLO members.
This economic crisis is the final stage of the implosion of the so called Clinton prosperity. It was all built without a solid foundation and the coercion of financial instituions by morons like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Maxine Waters, Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd.



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Itsnottoolate

posted October 28, 2008 at 9:25 pm


AMEN Steve Powers!!!



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Scott R.

posted October 28, 2008 at 9:33 pm


Well vast majority of American Jews are liberal and more liberal. We’re supporting Obama by over 70%.
He’s winning and we’re on the right side.
Deal with it.



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Dee

posted October 28, 2008 at 9:53 pm


AMEN, AMEN, AMEN TO STEVE POWERS. OBAMA IS BAD NEWS! I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SHAKE SOME SENSE INTO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.



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Carol

posted October 28, 2008 at 9:57 pm


I have never received anything like that from the Republian Party (I am currently registered as a Republican)..but I have heard many Jews who always vote for a Democrat say to me that Sarah Palin is a Nazi. and how can I consider voting for McCain (who is also a NAZI) etc.
I feel that any group who uses that term “NAZI” or “just like Hitler ” does a great disrespect to the memory of the SHOAH and shows their ignorance. It is bad enough that we have to deal with groups saying that Isreal is like Hitler in its dealings with the Palestinians…. but to hear this from Jews is far more upsetting to me.
I don’t remember so much hate from the left toward the right as we have seen in the last one or tro elections.
I believe we need a third party –middle of the road.



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Itsnottoolate

posted October 28, 2008 at 10:21 pm


Scott R. writes”
October 28, 2008 9:33 PM
Well vast majority of American Jews are liberal and more liberal. We’re supporting Obama by over 70%.
He’s winning and we’re on the right side.
Deal with it.
IF THAT’S TURNS OUT TO BE THE CASE, WE WILL ALL LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES, JEWISH OR CHRISTIAN. SCOTT, I WONDER HOW OLD YOU ARE?



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Yemma

posted October 28, 2008 at 10:29 pm


How can any well-informed Jew miss who OBAMA has associated with for so long? “Tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you
are!” Steve Powers is right!!!!!!!
I am more scared of Obama than any candidate out there. I have done
my research and I know where his leanings are.



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Itsnottoolate

posted October 28, 2008 at 10:32 pm


And you are wise to be very, very concerned Yemma.



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tolya007

posted October 28, 2008 at 10:40 pm


Nobody gave you the right to take decision for majority of American Jews.
Where did you get that 70% American Jews support Obama. What is your source of info? Many my friends and me will go with McKain, because we trust him. Take geography classes with your friend Obama Hussein and see how tiny and liberal country is Iran. Start looking for job, stop drain welfare system. Don’t wait for distribution of wealth people who working hard.
No respect.



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Scott R.

posted October 28, 2008 at 10:42 pm


I’m 42 Its. I’ve lived a little.
I won’t say that Sarah Palin is a Nazi, but her church entertained the head of the Jews for Jesus (may their name be erased from the earth), and Rev. Brickner stated that the Holocaust was brought on the Jews because we rejected JC. I actually read that on this blog.
Palin clapped.
Hell will freeze over before that Jew-hater gets my vote.
It’s because he’s a black man. It’s because, in 7 days, a black man will probably be our president.
And America is still too racist to deal with that.
Shame on us.
The blogs on the right are pushing harder and harder, screaming that Obama is a Muslim, is a communist, isn’t one of us.
They broke up a plot to assassinate Obama yesterday.
I am terrified that someone will shoot him. It will be because of the hysteria stirred up by the right, and every single one of you that bought into the lies and spread them will bear partial responsibility.



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David

posted October 28, 2008 at 10:53 pm


Yasher Koah on your gutsy, considerate, fair yet alarming need to call out such dangerous Lashon Harah that poisons the political process as well as our own community and our causes. I am also very upset about how the long prized consensus among Jewish moderates on the left and right that has long affirmed the bipartisanship of U.S. support of Israel is now, as the election draws to a close, being trivialized and divided by too many Jewish Republican TV talking heads who unfairly attack Obama as being anti-Israel. It is more important to support the pro-Israel American consensus than to jeopardize it for the sake of partisan advantage. P.S. – I and many other Jewish Community members know Barack Obama and his long, positive relationship to Chicago’s Jewish Community, as well as his visceral as well as intellectual support of Israel.



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Scott R.

posted October 28, 2008 at 10:54 pm


Hi Tolya,
Let me tell you about me.
I have a doctorate in psychology, and I own an internet company. I have worked for the government, and I promise you, I know where Iran is, how large it is, and how liberal it isn’t,
Since I am currently employed, and would actually have my taxes raised by Obama’s plan (I make in excess of $250,000/year), I can assure you I don’t need welfare. I guess it’s my wealth that would be redistributed a bit. But you know what? Maybe my wife and I don’t need two Mercedes. We’ll wait and see.
But God forbid that welfare did not exist to help the truly impoverished who can’t help themselves. That’s a Jewish value – tzedekah. I suggest you read up on it. All Jews are responsible for their neighbors.
My source was last Friday’s New York Jewish Week. Their survey came from the American Jewish Committee. I suspect this week the percentage will be higher.
BTW, if you trust your candidate so much, how come you can’t spell his name? It’s “McCain”.



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tolya007

posted October 28, 2008 at 10:59 pm


what plot they broke up? Two idiots-skinheads with two pistols and sewed shot gun. They are junky. They probably can’t even read. Don’t make publicity to Obama. It is a joke to take them seriously. They are human garbage. Do not give them credits. They are none, zero.



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Scott R.

posted October 28, 2008 at 11:16 pm


What was Hinkley? A nothing, a schmuck with a crush on an actress.
Two idiot skinheads who were inspired by haters.
You don’t need a lot of brain cells to assassinate someone. Just inspiration. If anything happens to him, his blood will be on them and their children. Read what the rabbi wrote.
BTW, you can apologize now for engaging in ad hominems instead of debating the issues.



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Cher

posted October 29, 2008 at 12:11 am


Scott…
Obama is black and white. He has a white mother (athiest) and black father (Kenyan from Africa). Why do people call him black?



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Cher

posted October 29, 2008 at 12:32 am


“Birds of a feather flock together.”
Obama, Ayers (terrorist), Tony Rezko, a Chicago influence peddler. He’s now a convicted felon.
Reverand Wright….the so called Minister who says G-dDa-n America (??? And he an American)..spoke against whites. (Or was Wright a Muslim once upon a time). The preacher of hate that Obama followed for 20 years was the foundation of Obama’s powerbase.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3IAjphhw6E
Lets not forget Leader of Nation of Islam (Farrhakan).
These are just a few? I would be very concerned about having Obama as a President.
By the way Scott..I was Democrat but as of Pelosi, Reid, Murtha and Obama came on scene..it is no way I choose them over “my freedom” which will be snatched from under us soon if he becomes President.
Surprize…I was a democrat.



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Camille

posted October 29, 2008 at 12:51 am


Dear Rabbi,
Thank you for writing what you did. Obama is not Hitler: there was only one Hitler. Jews tend to forget many non-Jews were Hitler’s victims as well. Second, I’m sick of American politics, or rather what has become of American politics. Politicans (and their supporters) will say anything and do anything to win; moreover, that includes slander, name-calling, lying, ect. I have no faith in the American political system. Also, Jews in America, I wish we would just shut up sometimes about political issues. I truely believe that many of the comments made about Obama this year, by our people Rabbi, have made we Jews appear simple-minded and petty. This is not the time for Jews to “throw stones” when anti-Semitism in America is quickly growing. No, I don’t like Obama, but I would never go so far as to compare him to one of the most evil men that lived in modern times. Furthermore, my brothers and sisters, pick up the Torah once in a while and actually read it! G-d is our rock, salvation and our only protection. If you think McCain, the Republicans or any other human can protect you, then your delusional. Yes, I love America; I was born here, my father was in the Army and I consider myself an unapologetic patriot. However, I am a Jew who believes in Torah. G-d granted Jacob’s descendants inheritance in the land of Israel: not in Iran,Germany,Canada or America. We or simply living in a host country whose “good favor” is just that. I pray to our G-d, my brothers and sisters, that in 2010, I will be moving to Israel. I’m not saying that leaving America is the answer; however, name-calling and fear mongering about potential genocide if Obama wins is not the answer to real racial tentions that is gripping the nation (I mean all races). Remeber, Jews no one can see into the future. So how do these McCain supporters (who made the comparision) even know that an American genocide is inevitable?



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Sydney Bolling

posted October 29, 2008 at 2:03 am


Has America become so lame that FEAR is our greatest motivator?
Obama as Hitler??? an antichrist,??? a socialist???
That’s one busy fella.
I applaud the republicans and their pundits for capitalizing on such an easily triggered emotion.
Let’s all just think reasonably for one moment…What’s truly the oldest trick in “The Book”? Divide and conquer…remember the Garden of Eden? You know. A couple. A tree. A serpent. That’s right, I knew you’d get it.
Oh, you sad, sad sheep. Being led to slaughter. I understand fully though, I’ve fallen for similar ruses in my time, oh yes. Someone comes along and they’ve got similar interest and likes as you, but suddenly…they’re off on their own little adventure after you’ve helped them achieve their true motives (the war in Iraq, Katrina relief, predatory lending practices, etc.) Ah W., we hardly knew ye.
Yep. You Repubs really know how to look out for the little man, protecting him from the big, bad wolf and all.
Get a grip America. Nov 4th, 2008 IS reckoning day. Before you know it… the economy will take a dramatic upswing, unemployment rates will go down, and your home’s value will go back up, your SSI, Medicaid and Medicare will be safe. More unbelievable is the fact that the Boogey man will not have shown up at your door to blow it down. But will you be grateful America? I am AFRAID not.



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Your Name

posted October 29, 2008 at 2:20 am


Dear CHER,
“BOO”



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Sydney Bolling

posted October 29, 2008 at 3:49 am


J.Kravette;
I am from “up north” but now live in the south. I never knew that Christians and Jewish people did not get along until I moved down here. Then again, maybe because I’m Catholic…or it could be that I’m black. Anyway, the way I see it is that possibly hate is ok as long as fear is the catalyst. Fortunately for me all I have to fear is the Lord…wait a minute, there goes that theory.
As far as Obama’s credentials, I can tell you what he hasn’t got (so far at least).
Here goes:
1) a previously failed marriage
2) an uneven temperament
3) flip flop ideals
4) a warmonger’s attitude
5) a hatemonger’s attitude
6) a known disdain for his colleagues
I don’t know, maybe those ARE virtues and combined with graduating at the TOP of his class while at Harvard Law School (definitely not a C average student), being a loyal family man and caring for “the poor” through community service.
Now I get it. I never thought I’d say this but that guy Obama and I have quite a bit in common. Please don’t hold that against him.
I suppose I voted for him because he is different from the status quo and fortunately at this moment, being self-employed, I am not dependent upon “Big Business” to trickle down on me. Also I feel that being in a slightly higher tax bracket is all right. (Yes, I do make more than 250K) The Economy of the country is the most important issue to me at this time. All of my clients are middleclass working people and I would like for my oldest son to graduate from college in two years and get a job.
So, other than the previously stated, I can’t think of any reason to vote for Obama and I’m okay with not being able to persuade anyone else.
Vote with YOUR heart and mind. Or, don’t vote at all, it’s okay, it’s America.
P.S.
To the guy with two Mercedes;
Shame on you for your selfishness, that you would rather the entire countries economy crumble than you would share a little of your wealth? Do you cheat on your taxes? Anyway, come get your next Mercedes, BMW or Lexus from me. I’ve got a lot full of them for the deserving few such as yourself.
Oh, almost forgot.
This is for CHER, Anne M Johnson, Tracie, Adrian Windsor in Scottsdale, Arizona and Dee
“BOO”….I forgot to sign that last one.



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Kelev

posted October 29, 2008 at 12:46 pm


I’m a member of the JRC (Jewish Republican Coalition) and I cannot recall ANY such thing being spread around.
Does Obama have ties to those who have espoused a desire for another holocaust? – PLENTY of them.
Does Obama have that desire? I don’t know.
What I have read is that when Obama was asked at Yad Vashem if there’s be another holocaust, he wouldn’t answer the question.
Make of what you will.
Obama =/= Hitler.



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Scott R.

posted October 29, 2008 at 4:02 pm


Sydney,
Actually, I said I would be willing to sacrifice a Mercedes, because we didn’t need two. We don’t even need one. We’re just lucky. But we also live by the Jewish belief in tzedekkah, because that’s all we are is lucky. And others are not. So yeah, let’s spread it around a bit. It’s a freaking sin that a child in America should go hungry.
I liked everything else yous said.:)
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Kelev,
Obama said at Yad Vashem that there would NEVER be another Holocaust.
You, my friend, just committed lashon hara. I hope you know what that is, because it’s a sin akin to murder.
Shame on you for your lies. Our ancestors are ashamed.



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Patsy Elders

posted October 29, 2008 at 5:37 pm


I just happened across this as I am trying to learn about all faiths. I believe all mankind IS important, so each is heart, regardless of faith. I am glad I live in a country where we can express our ideas and have freedoms that we take for granted. I am a 58 year old white woman that served in the US Navy 74-77 and I DO NOT believe in this war. We should only take up arms when necessary and not for gain. I am putting all my faith in trust in Obama as I believe he cares more for us then anyone in a long time! I am VERY proud to vote for him! I am currently unemployed and it is so hard to find a job. I could also use one of those Mercedes (LOL) as my old Mercury can barely make it to interviews. No matter what your faith, race, culture or whatever, PLEASE do not put Palin in the Whitehouse! She is one of the dumbest women I have ever seen in politics. Imagine her trying to work out peace in the middle east! There will be so much more bloodshed, there and with our young men and women. I want someone who can unite (Obama) and not divide! Please, if anyone tells you that Obamba is anti-Jewish, investigate for yourself before you believe it! As far as socialism, Palin spread the wealth in Alaska and now America is in control of so many Wallstreet business that it is scary. Again, send me the extra car so I can get a job(LOL)..better yet, GIVE me a job!! Hope Obama hurries up and helps, I have lost about 50 pounds and can’t afford new clothes! smile Just thoughts from a random mind!



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Steve Powers

posted October 29, 2008 at 5:44 pm


To Scott R.:
“Scott R.
October 29, 2008 4:02 PM
Actually, I said I would be willing to sacrifice a Mercedes, because we didn’t need two. We don’t even need one. We’re just lucky. But we also live by the Jewish belief in tzedekkah, because that’s all we are is lucky. And others are not. ”
It’s clear that you do not even understand tzedakkah. Tzedakkah is VOLUNTARY, not the government taking someone’s assets and redistributing them. Liberals love to give away other people’s assets but not their own.



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Sydney Bolling

posted October 29, 2008 at 6:43 pm


Scott R.
Please forgive me for flying off the handle. That was childish of me. I came to this site because I was up late helping my brother with his resume. I came for inspiration but got sidetracked because I saw a fellow human being getting slandered (Motzei Shem Rah). Hope I got that right.
I felt particularly hurt because I’ve always felt a special kinship with the people of Jewish origin due to their history of being slighted, enslaved and tortured throughout history. And just like us Blacks, I believe one of our tasks for the short time we’re here is to at least speak up for those who cannot defend themselves.
Once again please forgive me. And thank you for enlightening me with the term tzedekkah, googled it, and I try to practice the same.
Remember that anyone who claims to dislike Jews is just jealous.



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Scott R.

posted October 29, 2008 at 6:54 pm


Steve Powers,
It’s clear you don’t understand my post -
and DO NOT presume to tell me what I mean.
When I said I would be willing to give up one of my cars, I was bringing up the point that I would be willing to give up part of my income – WILLINGLY – so that the less fortunate could benefit.
I am voting for Obama WILLINGLY – which means I am also WILLING sacrificing some of my income to possible higher taxes because other people desperately need help.
I’m a liberal. I’ve ALREADY willing given up some of my assets. I’m not going to give you a detailed outline of the Schedule A of my 1040 because it’s none of your damn business.
And hey, what have you done for the human race lately? Besides libel others, that is?
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Sydney,
Thanks a lot – you got it just fine.:)



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Jay

posted October 29, 2008 at 10:17 pm


Of course Obama is not another Hitler. No one is saying that. What has been noted, and rightly so, is that we need to look at the associations and judgement of someone who wants to be President of the United States. Obama was happy to associate with vicious anti-semites like Jeremiah Wright and Rashid Khalidi. He stood up and cheered when Wright shouted “G-d Damn America” and called Israel a racist aparteid state. Notice how every single person in that hellhole of a church gave Wright a standing ovation for all these remarks. You think Obama just happened to be absent every time he spoke that way? You think he was the only one sitting there and not cheering? And we have no idea what was said at the dinner for Khalidi, because the LA Times is so far in the bag for Obama that it will not release it.
Jesse Jackson recently bragged about how Zionists will lose power with Obama in the White House. No Jew should be voting for this man. No patriotic American should be voting for this man. John McCain is a great American and an amazing leader who has served his country well all his life. Please, wake up and give him your vote!



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Scott R.

posted October 29, 2008 at 11:16 pm


Wow Jay, you were there in Trinity? You saw him stand and cheer? Because you can’t say he did just because everyone else did. And if you’re saying he did when you didn’t see him do it – you’re lying.
I am so sick of being told that as a Jew I shouldn’t be voting for a Jew. I’m not voting for McCain because he’s a Republican and the Republicans are now the Xian Party. I’m not voting for McCain because he’s got a maniacal temper and isn’t stable. He’s no leader. And I am not voting for McCain because he chose Palin, who hasn’t many functioning brain cells, and is a vicious anti-Semite.
This Jew is voting for Obama. So is my wife. So are May parents. So is everyone in my family. And in 6 days, he will be president.
Happy days are here again!



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J.Kravette

posted October 30, 2008 at 12:55 am


To Sydney,
My question about Obama’s contributions and qualifications were actually addressed to Scott R. who has not replied to any of my posts directed to him,and you skirted the question too by telling me what he hasn’t done rather than what he has accomplished. I am very anxious to hear from either one of you on what this very eloquent man has done in the short time he has been in public service.



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Steve Powers

posted October 30, 2008 at 9:32 am


“Scott R.
October 29, 2008 6:54 PM
Steve Powers,
When I said I would be willing to give up one of my cars, I was bringing up the point that I would be willing to give up part of my income – WILLINGLY – so that the less fortunate could benefit.
I am voting for Obama WILLINGLY – which means I am also WILLING sacrificing some of my income to possible higher taxes because other people desperately need help.
I’m a liberal. I’ve ALREADY willing given up some of my assets. I’m not going to give you a detailed outline of the Schedule A of my 1040 because it’s none of your damn business.”
Aren’t you just wonderful? What are you waiting for to give up your assets supposedly willingly to help others? You are just another armchair liberal – all talk telling others what to do but no action on your part.
“And hey, what have you done for the human race lately? Besides libel others, that is?”
What I’m doing lately for the human race is continuing to expose and educate those without the true facts about the blatant lies and misrepresentations by all the Liberals.
LOL. I’m libeling others? Your posts are filled with blatant lies and viscious allegations. It’s you who keep anti-semitism alive by making completely false allegations of anti-semitism such as you have done to Sarah Palin.



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Kelev

posted October 30, 2008 at 10:44 am


Scott R
I am so sick of being told that as a Jew I shouldn’t be voting for a Jew. I’m not voting for McCain because he’s a Republican and the Republicans are now the Xian Party.
I’m not voting for McCain because he’s got a maniacal temper and isn’t stable.
He’s no leader. And I am not voting for McCain because he chose Palin, who hasn’t many functioning brain cells, and is a vicious anti-Semite.
Scott R… Don’t lecture ME on Lashon Hora. It’s like “Pot meet Kettle”.
Before you start making off-handed assaults about Palin, try backing up your spew with some cites. Prior to her being on the “short-list” there was an Israeli flag in her office.
Barry-0 told a group of Jews that Jerusalem shouldn’t be divided – 24 hours later he contradicted himself when speaking in front of pallies.
John McCain has a LONG history of voting in FAVOR of Israel -
Biden has a history of voting AGAINST Israel -
Obama doesn’t have a history because he has NO experience.
Further, your contention that the “Republicans are Xian Party.”
Is an OBVIOUS LIE. Myself, Prager, Medved, Kraulthamer ALL Jews – ALL proud Republicans.
So why is it, Joe Leiberman, is backing McCain?



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Kelev

posted October 30, 2008 at 11:09 am


I actually read the letter and find NO-fault in it’s wording nor it’s intent. It’s a fact-set in truth and based on Obama’s circle of friends not an UNreasonable conclusion.
Does the letter call Barry-0 Hitler, NO.
Does it imply Barry-0 will CAUSE another Holocaust? NO.
It does state that based on (1) his lack of a record (because he has NO EXPERIENCE), and (2) He surrounds himself with thugs who are devout enemies of the Jewish People and Israel, that the Jewish people need to look closely at this candidate, before blindly casting a vote.



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RJMuldoon

posted October 30, 2008 at 12:33 pm


The only other politician that I can think of who has had so many worshippping, adoring, “please love me” adherents in the past 100 years was not JFK, or FDR, but Adolph Hitler. The poses assumed by Obama, the well-rehearsed oratorical flourishes, and side-view smiles for the camera are all designed for the “cult of personality” which makes him wonder that in a 90/10 race why he didn’t get the other 10% of the votes. I truly fear for the frenzy that is sweeping our country.



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Sydney Bolling

posted October 30, 2008 at 1:43 pm


J.Kravette
I admitted in my first response that I probably couldn’t persuade anyone with my knowledge of Obama’s “qualifications” only “personal traits” that I feel are necessary to run THIS country in THESE trying times.
Please be advised that I am not a political expert by any means.
Having come clean with this omission, here’s why “I” have voted for Obama.
His Ideals as far as getting people back to work, protecting those currently working and preventing jobs from going overseas appear to be no-brainers. His stand on the economy and creating green jobs are totally new processes to ME but appear to make good sense. His even temperament makes ME believe that he won’t be as eager to go to war over disputes.
As far as McCain is concerned, I do like him as a person (at least the seemingly cognitive pre-election McCain), and even pondered voting for him because of his tenure in government. But…and this is a big but, since the Republican convention McCain has become something other than what I’d previously perceived.
Here’s why “I” didn’t vote for McCain.
1) His choice of Sara Palin (need I say more?). Okay here we go.
a) Sarah Palin is textbook of persons being advanced beyond their usefulness. When this happens people tend to do one of two things: either they are grateful and humble and remain on the fast track to catch up and excel in their position. OR they become condescending and arrogant towards others around them and in their own little mind are experts of everything. Palin has opted for latter.
b) Palin Cut (that’s right I said CUT) the State of Alaska’s funding for the Special Olympics by 50%. I can’t make this stuff up.
c) Palin is on a constant race bating campaign. Word’s such as socialist (often used against Dr. Martin Luther King). Phrases such as “he’s not one of us”. Please don’t mistake her constant racist banter to only take aim at Obama or blacks. I have had work associates while serving in the military years ago that were Klansmen and stated that while more radical groups still despise blacks, they only had a hatred towards the likes of adulterers and Jews (of course I disagreed and still do. A racist is a racist IS A RACIST).
d) Palin’s husband, Todd is a “former” member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a secessionist group that wants to secede from the USA. Todd was a member October 1995 through July 2002, except for a few months in 2000. He is currently undeclared. She accepted contributions from them while running for mayor.
e) She is already getting all mavericky on McCain just as she has bitten the hand of everyone who has helped her along in life.
2) His flip flop ideals: The economy is fundamentally strong, The war in Iraq will last ten more years, etc.
3) He wants to give big business and big oil MORE tax cuts.
4) He has voted consistently to allow companies to move overseas and leave Americans jobless and without their pensions and insurance.
5) The only recollection I have of McCain speaking up for the middle class has been for Joe the Plumber who as turned out to be a fraud himself and making $42K/yr I can only imagine that he’s not that good at plumbing. My best friend is a plumber and makes considerably much more than that and no he does not own his own business.
Once again these are only my opinions of the candidates as my conclusions are my own. It’s possible that as an employer I view the candidates as future employees. I make hiring decisions based upon what are you going to do for this company, more-so than what did you do for your previous companies (I’d say it’s importance is about 80/20). These are public official positions and THEY all work for US…works in theory anyway.
Maybe you can draw your own conclusion by figuring out the best employee for YOUR company.
If all else fails, ask yourself, “What would Joe the Plumber Do?).



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Patsy Elders

posted October 30, 2008 at 4:36 pm


To Sydney Bolling
RIGHT ON!!!!! You actually said in all your comments what I have been telling all of my relatives who will vote McCain. I too use to think I would vote for him if he ever ran and I am a strong Democrat. But watching him flip-flop and then picking Palin, I lost 98% respect for him! I am a veteran and support his service and all the others, but his mind is slipping and he is not as sharp as he use to be (just watch him and you will see). Now, if Palin has to sit in front of world leaders–and she cannot remember any newspapers she read (as a journalist), I am scared!
Please people, we need to unite……Please do not give us another Bush term!! The world already hates us and we are in some seriously bad times…let us move forward with a new day and someone who is willing to sit and talk not pick up guns and bombs!! And his own camp thinks she (Palin) is going rogue and soooooo nasty! He does not even speak to her on his own bus! He knows he screwed up, but he can’t say anything! Why didn’t he pick Leiberman his best buddy?
Let us not be racist and treat others the way history treated some groups due to their religion, culture or skin color! LET US NOT REPEAT HATE AND PREJUDICE!
HAVE FAITH!!
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Scott R.

posted October 30, 2008 at 7:10 pm


Steve Powers,
1) Again – not that is any of your business I already said I gave up some of my assets to help the less fortunate.
2) As was explained many times, Sarah Palin sat in her church and applauded when a Jews for JC minister said god sent the Holocaust on the Jews for not accepting JC. That’s right, she clapped when told that god allowed 1,000,000 Jewish children and babies to be put into ovens – not even mentioning the other 5,000,000 Jews that god apparently allowed to be raped, beaten, shot, gassed and burned.
She clapped for that. She can just go to hell as far as I’m concerned. That is an anti-Semite.
*****
Seriously, at this point, I really don’t care, because this thread has degenerated into a swamp.



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J.Kravette

posted October 30, 2008 at 7:10 pm


Sydney,
Thank you for your most eloquent response to my query,and your honesty,it is refreshing compared to so many of the posts I have read.I too do not proclaim to be a political maven, as this election is the first one I have been so passionate about and I am 66 years young. I also know that you have made up your mind and nothing I can say will change that,but I know in my heart and my knower(that’s a little mechanism in my body that goes ding,ding when something doesn’t feel just right)that someone with no experience politically,with definite questionable associations,to name a couple of my objections,not withstanding his stance on dealing with Israel’s sworn enemies, I feel he is not the right man to lead our country in one of the most tenuous times in our country’s history. I would feel most uncomfortable knowing that the person in the Oval Office is a person that has been cramming for this position for the past year like someone cramming for an exam. I truly believe that his supporters are so anxious for a change that they are mesmerized by his eloquence and very smooth style. I almost fear making my next statement that it would be taken the wrong way and in no way am I calling him a H—-r but in the days preceding WWll the people of Germany were also in a dire economical situation and were anxious for change and a man came on the scene who also was very eloquent and mesmerized the working class people with his rhetoric and we all know what transpired.History has a way of repeating itself if we don’t learn from it.
I will add this thought and that is I believe that God will put the man He wants in office as He is still in control.



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Grace

posted October 30, 2008 at 7:55 pm


“…in the days preceding WWll the people of Germany were also in a dire economical situation and were anxious for change and a man came on the scene who also was very eloquent and mesmerized the working class people with his rhetoric and we all know what transpired.”
While I understand and appreciate your caution, I felt compelled to address this tiny bit of what you said.
The difference for me, is the tone of the rhetoric. At no point has Mr. Obama advocated violence or even hate for any other group of people. Yes, he has spoken of his disagreement with policy that has been tried and shown to work less effectively than promised, but he has not singled out a section of our society and said “It’s all THEIR fault”. Instead, he has spent his time attempting to lift up others, he has been respectful to his opponents, and held his tongue when many people would have lashed out (with good reason) at the hateful, vile, and just plain untrue things that have been said about him. He has shown a strength of character that we have rarely witnessed in our politicians in a long, long time. And contrary to what some folks have said, and sadly believe, Mr. Obama has never claimed that his way was THE way, he has never claimed that only he knows the answers, and that he will only share them if he is made president. He has shown nearly every day a sincere concern for this country, for the future of American children (2 of which are the fruit of his own loins), and he has been very clear about the fact that it is going to require ALL Americans to participate in improving our country. In his 2004 speech at the DNC he emphatically said “There are no Blue states, or Red states. There are the United States of America.” It would be nice if more politicians believed the same.
*The above is my heartfelt opinion on these matters. I am not an expert, I am just an American with an opinion about the future of my country, and who might be a better representative of where we as a country want to go.*



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Your Name

posted October 30, 2008 at 8:23 pm


“Scott R.
October 30, 2008 7:10 PM
Sarah Palin sat in her church and applauded when a Jews for JC minister said god sent the Holocaust on the Jews for not accepting JC. That’s right, she clapped when told that god allowed 1,000,000 Jewish children and babies to be put into ovens – not even mentioning the other 5,000,000 Jews that god apparently allowed to be raped, beaten, shot, gassed and burned.”
That is a bald-faced LIE!



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Patsy Elders

posted October 30, 2008 at 10:18 pm


“Not only will we have to repent for the sins of bad people; but we also will have to repent for the appalling silence of good people.” — Martin Luther King, Jr.



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Itsnottoolate

posted October 30, 2008 at 11:30 pm


It’s kind of strange to read Jewish people on this site refer to Christians as Xians. Do some refer to Jewish people as Xish?
I’ve noticed the most angry, hostile, bitter, evil name callers on this website are those voting for Obama. All in the name of more “inclusiveness”, fairness. We’ve always known that liberals are the most non-liberal when others differ from their views.



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Kelev

posted October 31, 2008 at 2:53 am


Scott R.
Cite your source for Palin cheering the Shoah.
Put-up or shut-up.



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Sydney Bolling

posted October 31, 2008 at 8:36 am


Kelev;
This URL that I’ve pasted here is just one of many that I found when I googled “is sarah palin an anti semitic”. http://commonmistakes.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palins-anti-semitic-preacher.html
J.Kravette,
I don’t know if this enough to set off your knower, but I’ll say THIS as an expert because I’ve lived it. In Obama’s defense, being young and black while trying to bust through barriers, hop through hoops and crash through ceilings he’s not afforded the luxury of handpicking his “associates” all while attempting to gain footage in “the American Way of Life”. Also I don’t know of any black Nazi’s. I don’t think they were all that fond of ”US” either.
REMEMBER. Palin’s actions took place with two weeks left in the race, once again proving her to be unmanageable while not distancing herself from a church with known voodoo witchdoctors.
If this had been Obama, this late in the game it would be Checkmate, game over.
CAUTION: Self proclaimed GOOD? Christians still believe that anyone who doesn’t embrace Jesus is hellbound (I’ve left many a church feeling dirty and disgusted after attending such riot act sermons and masses, never to return again).
True? Christians don’t (at least shouldn’t) judge anyone or force feed Christianity to anyone.
Romans 3:9What shall we conclude then? Are we any better? Not at all! We have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under sin. 10As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;
11there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
12All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”



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Steve Powers

posted October 31, 2008 at 10:19 am


“Sydney Bolling
October 31, 2008 8:36 AM
I don’t know if this enough to set off your knower, but I’ll say THIS as an expert because I’ve lived it. In Obama’s defense, being young and black while trying to bust through barriers, hop through hoops and crash through ceilings he’s not afforded the luxury of handpicking his “associates” all while attempting to gain footage in “the American Way of Life”. ”
WRONG!! He had the best opportunities to pick associates unless you believe that everyone at Harvard is as racist, anti-American and anti-semitic as those he chose to have long standing relationships with. He belonged to a church for twenty years that not only preached hatred but also wrote it in their filthy rag of a magazine.



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Kelev

posted October 31, 2008 at 3:29 pm


Sydney Bolling…
You must be kidding me. She attended a church where they had a guest- speaker… A GUEST SPEAKER… Who was a J4J… You people must be really insecure in your Jewishness to be threatenend by a J4J. Don’t get me wrong, I can’t stand them. But to hold somebody to the level of disgust you do is amazing.
You’re A-OK with Barry-0 attending J. Wright’s Church for 20 years – but Palin’s church has a J4J GUEST SPEAKER and she’s somehow worse than Haman.
I’ll take an underhanded attempt at conversion over suicide vest ANYDAY.
And BTW, Haaretz had an article citing that American Jews living in ISrael are voting McCain over Obama 3:1 – I wonder why THAT is?



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Sigmon

posted October 31, 2008 at 6:11 pm


I support anybody who votes, even if I don’t agree with who you vote for. At least it shows that you care about your country. But name-calling such as hitler, socialist, communist, does not denegrate Barack Obama, it diminishes the person who is hurling the insults.
Obama/Biden 08!
Hope for the folks!



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Sydney Bolling

posted October 31, 2008 at 10:17 pm


Kelev & Steve Powers
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posted October 31, 2008 at 10:24 pm


Kelev & Steve Powers
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posted November 2, 2008 at 8:18 am


Wow, every day is a new day, a new learning experience and certainly in learning there is great confusion! I think that as Americans we need best to learn from the past. In doing so, we need to look at the leaders of our country and identify their performance, their ideals and their capacity to govern based on these premises. We need to look at the experiences that have shaped their character to understand their focus, and especially to compare what they say against what they have done. Words are wonderful, but actions speak loudest. To vow to serve a party affiliation without truly investigating as best as you can what is proposed by them, is irresponsible. If drawing a comparison to historical events like the Great Depression, or the Holocaust, based on the hindsight we have drawn by our evaluation of these events, these efforts point to a similar conclusion, is it not our right to speak our concerns? Many people vote because they are hypnotized by the words they hear, and hope for a better world. But if words are often spoken that contradict the acts of those people, after charactaristically investigating the performance and true cause and effect, not simply taking the word of any media organizeation, then simply listening to the words should not be the only motivation in selection.
You don’t want to be 2-3 years down the line of a presidency that went in the direction of the current analysis because you listened to only one side of fair words instead of understanding the true nature of past actions.
While we operate on the nature of free will, God is working in so many ways to help us come to our decisions, lets not say we didn’t listen when He gave us what we needed to make the best choice for all.



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posted November 2, 2008 at 11:42 am


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posted November 3, 2008 at 8:19 am


Your mother is right and theres enough evidence to support it. Is this Hitler like?
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posted November 4, 2008 at 8:20 am


Scott R,
You make me sick with your lies about Sarah Palin – after claiming I lied about Barack Obama’s associations with Jeremiah Wright! Pathetic.
Now, I am off to proudly vote for McCain and Palin!



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posted November 4, 2008 at 3:03 pm


Scott R, Jay & et cetera,
Since, as I stated before, I am a committed devotee of The Jewish Carpenter, I guess then that qualifies you all as my relatives in JC and I truly love you all in that love that Christ teaches. My last word in this pages, however, is that I have nothing BUT scorn for anyone who continues to badmouth Barack Obama w/o having read the ‘Dreams of my Father’ &/or ‘The Audacity of Hope’! My goodness, the guy is just a plain Humanist! Having said that, I am now PROUDLY off to vote for the same……..!!!!!



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posted November 4, 2008 at 3:30 pm


Be sure to get out and VOTE for OBAMA today!



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posted November 5, 2008 at 12:05 pm


both got through on racist mesaures (people support obama cus he’s black, people support hitler cus they hated jews).
both disrespect the nations traditions (hitler changed flag to swastika, obama wants to change national anthem)
both come from a foreign country
both come in during economic crisis
both use extreme propoganda
both go on about their struggles/kampf through life
yes ppl, we are dealing with another hitler! shame on you americans



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posted November 8, 2008 at 9:10 pm


SHAME on those rebbetzins and rabbis who sanctimoniously compare President Barack Obama to the despot Adolf Hitler.
They did it even TODAY–November 8 in a women’s learning group on Long Island, NY—on the 70th anniversary of Kristalnacht.
Barack Obama is a liberal, a person who hates war, who visited the Kotel and Yad Vashem and who is committed to Israel’s well being.
The scurrilous lies propagated by the rightist orthodox Jewish community need to stop now, and we should not let them hide behind the shirts of the principle of LOSHON HORO to continue to do so.
Barack Obama is our President and t compare him to Hitler is abominable.
From this platform I condemn the rebbetzin who made this comparison between Barack Obama and Adolf Hitler.



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Mike Phillips

posted November 14, 2008 at 2:21 am


Are you kidding me? People believe the racist and ignorant garbage floating around about Obama AND McCain? This guy, Matt, who thinks Obama wants to change the national anthem…. does he seriously believe that?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp
Read that. Snopes is a trustworthy site that takes the air out of stupid rumors that float around the internet unchecked.
If you don’t like Obama, fine. Same for McCain haters or since this is post election… Republican haters. But wow, be informed. It’s your civic duty.



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Pat

posted November 17, 2008 at 2:49 pm


LOL I agree with Mike Phillips in that Matt is a little absurd. However it is important (whether you are a liberal or not) to look and see if there aren’t any similarities between the two characters. In this way Matt brought up some legitimate points, but also some illegitimate ones. I would like to do the same as Matt, however set my biased aside and not use ridiculous claims.
We all know and recognizes the differences between the two far out weigh the similarities, and for this reason I will not discuss these. However, there are a few important similarities to note. First, Both Hitler and Obama favor socialist ideals (please, do not think I am saying Obama will make the U.S. a socialist country). Both a very charismatic persons and understand a speech isn’t just a speech, its a show. Both come to rise during very racially charged elections, and during times of economic crises. Finally, both use their past life struggles as a tool to make people relate to them.
These are the similarities. Plain and simple. Now you may be asking so what? I am I trying to Obama will be as bad as Hitler? NOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYY!!!!! However, my point is that Hitler is history’s lesson that when a charismatic leader comes to power in a time of national crises and political turmoil, the citizens of that nation can become blinded by their leader and allow for things to happen that they as a people wouldn’t normally allow, due to the extreme situations and the charisma of their leader leading them to believe everything he says is right. This is the warning we are to take from the experience of Hitler’s dictatorship. And if we do not at least heed this warning and keep it in the back of our heads, as we observe and judge Obama throughout his presidency, then we are fools and deserve all the hardships that potentially could come our way.



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posted November 24, 2008 at 2:51 pm


“However, my point is that Hitler is history’s lesson that when a charismatic leader comes to power in a time of national crises and political turmoil, the citizens of that nation can become blinded by their leader and allow for things to happen that they as a people wouldn’t normally allow, due to the extreme situations and the charisma of their leader leading them to believe everything he says is right.”
And the Bush administration is history’s lesson that when a terrorist attack is staged on American soil, the citizens of this nation can become blinded by their fear and allow for things to happen that they as a people wouldn’t normally allow, due to the extreme situations and the trust in their leader leading them to believe everything he says is right.
We live in a world full of sheep, my friends. Those in power will always take advantage of it.



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posted November 27, 2008 at 8:39 pm


i am trouble about obama he is not a good person he has no real experience in what he is doing he did nothing in ill why cnt people see that he will attempt to destroy this great country it is not because he is black if a black man had experiebnce and knew what he was doing that would be ok obama needs to be stop but the americam people wont do anything about it men and woman have fought and die for this great country dont let obama hurt this country thanks for reading this message



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Mike Johnson

posted April 15, 2009 at 4:04 am


A few months ag, I thought this was silly. Now that Obama has nationalized the banks, the auto industry, and fired the CEO of General Motors– I guess he is JUST like Hitler. Very scary



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posted May 4, 2009 at 11:06 pm


It appears that Obama is paving the way for Iran to conduct another holocaust, helped by the capos Soros and Emmanuel. What do you expect from a follower of a Nation of Islam pastor?



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posted August 28, 2009 at 12:42 pm


Look at the site of the National Black rRepublicans Association. The site is nationalblackrepublicans.com. This group says Barack is NOT whom they wanted to represent their race in history. Obama is a communist.Adolph Hitler hated his own Jewish heritage, and look what he did to the Jews. Obama obviously hates his white background. Remember he said his grandmother showed “typical white behavior.” in his national race speech? If Obama will stab his own grandmother in the back in front of national media, he will think nothing of doing this to others. This remark of Obama’s alone should have shown people that Obama is a man whith little class. No one but the blind and the stupid voted for Obama. America is on its way down due to Obama and his crooked administration. Martin Luther King was a Republican who did not believe in the socialism Barack believes in. Barack is not Christian. The church he belonged to for twenty years tried to make blacks think they have to depend on the government. Talk show host Jerry Springer is Jewish and he supported Obama. Springer had relatives who died in the halocaust. He has laughed publicly at people who think Obama is communistic. I am shocked Springer of Jewish decent could be so damned blind. Obama wants a halocaust and he wants it for white people. Ther are many black politicians for whom I would vote for Presidential office. Obama is a communist, and he is racist. shame on those too stupid or blind to see through this man and his evil intentions.



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Cheyne Dunn

posted February 11, 2010 at 6:04 am


I think that everyone that compares him to Hitler negatively is just asking for an argument. Politicians use tactics, these tactics can be very successful, but for christ’s sake people, just because someone is similar to another person, it does not make them the same person and it does not make them responsible for the previous person’s actions. It’s the same as the controversy of black slavery, the white people of today are not to blame for previous actions, and the black people of today are not slaves. If there is a tangible, physical effect of the past in your life, you’re entitled to some sort of reparation. But if you are not affected in any way at all, just shut up.
Anyway, I’m rambling and going off topic. My point is, Barack Obama is not Adolf Hitler and Adolf Hitler is not Barack Obama. Judge the person as he is and before making your opinion on him, good or bad, research him for yourself– There is alot of propaganda and controversy over him but not all of it is true.



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posted March 23, 2010 at 2:41 pm


There is no research to be done. History is being repeated right before our eyes. Yet, so many refuse to believe history. Google “The Communist Manifesto” and you will have total confirmation that they are running that as their Play Book in order to destroy the country, bring defeat to the nation and turn America into the next Weimer Republic like they had in Germany after WWI. The private slush fund company known as the federal reserve are in charge of printing the worthless toilet paper we call “Legal Tender”. They knew when they thunk it up that it would eventually destroy the country. How could they not know? Basing an entire economy on worthless paper and borrowing against future generations to pay for it all. Ya, sounds like a perfectly stable and rational plan to me. “NOT !!” We are already a 3rd World Country but we refuse to accept it. And now that the Marxists in the White House have crammed the Soviet Healthcare bill down our throats, in November we shove it up their arses and put the bastards in the souplines that they have created. Then, when we have come to our senses again, we demand that this bogus healthcare law be repealed and communism, marxism and fascism be punishible by deportation. This and only this will bring our country back under OUR Control again. The People’s control. America needed to fix a few things with healthcare. But in my American opionion, “They have gone WAY WAY too far.” We need to impeach the son of a biotch and fire the rest of them for High Treason. I hear the War Crimes Tribunals have little to talk to these days. Let’s send them a few good men, remembering that last time they had these tribunals after WWII. Then, “Just following orders” didn’t help THEM either.



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posted July 5, 2010 at 5:16 pm


Ohh shut it! How can Obama be the next Hitler when the most powerful lobby in america is runned by Jews?
And, the America is the only country which makes it possible for Israel to continue break the international laws. Yes that’s right, USA uses their Veto right in UN which stops UN from making Israel pay for their illegal actions towards the Palestinians.
AIPAC lobby, check it out on Wikipedia or something like that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC



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