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Pope Francis says he won’t judge homosexuals (Video-On Pope’s plane)

posted by Donna Calvin

Normally, I put my comments first; however, in this posting, they are at the end. – Watchwoman

Pope Francis addressed reporters aboard the Papal plane, July 29, 2013

Pope Francis addressed reporters aboard the Papal plane, July 29, 2013

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Pope Francis reaches out to gays – (Source: The Telegraph) – Wednesday, July 31, 2013

CHPP in The Daily Brief writes: In a significant shift of stance, the Pope struck a much more conciliatory tone than traditional Vatican doctrine, which has called homosexuality “a deviation” and “an irregularity” that should preclude gay men from becoming priests. The comments did not fundamentally change the policy of the Catholic Church, which holds that while homosexual orientation is not sinful, homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered”. But they signaled that Francis accepts that some priests are gay, and that it is acceptable as long as they adhere to their vow of celibacy, marking a more compassionate, inclusive stance on the issue.

CHPP prays: Father God, we intercede for this man who heads up the largest denomination in the world to be able to sharply discern and clearly express to a confused world the difference between compassion for people who are under the influence of wicked spirits and yet to not approving of what God has called sin. Bless this man in this very serious position he holds in our world.

- “Let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.” (James 5:20)

(Read more) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/10208802/Pope-Francis-reaches-out-to-gays.html

Email: Capitol Hill Prayer Partners at chpp@patriot.net

 

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Video from Pope Francis talking to the press on his plane about Benedict XVI, Vatican Bank and ‘gay lobby’ (6 min 45 sec)

Source: YouTube

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Calvin’s Commentary: What a disheartening disappointment. I’m very sorry to say that I can only view Pope Francis’ liberal position on homosexuality with such pain that it makes me want to cry! I didn’t even want to post anything about this because I kept hoping against all hope that the Vatican would issue a statement saying that the Pope never made any such statements and the media had taken his words out of context and twisted them.

I used to be Roman Catholic until they left me back in the 70’s and 80’s, but I have never held any contempt of the Roman Catholic Church. I learned many good things there that I have carried with me all through my life. For example, all the tenants of the “Apostle’s Creed,” but this position expressed by Pope Francis is beyond my comprehension. What was Pope Francis thinking saying these words especially during these turbulent, perilous times, the Last Days, while evildoers are trampling all over God’s Commandments, the Holy Bible, prayer in the Name of Jesus Christ, and the very Words of Jesus Christ Himself?

Pope Francis might not be willing to judge, but he claims the highest seat as the head of a church that thinks their priests must judge sin and who proclaim that not only can they judge sin, their priests are the only ones who can administer the forgiveness for the sins of penitents who enter inside the Catholic confessionals. May God help them, because if these priests cannot judge, my question is simply this, “How can they figure out what to forgive if they cannot even make a judgment as to what is a sin and what is not?”

I am certain that Pope Francis has to have read The Holy Bible repeatedly in order to have been elected as Pope. Therefore, he must have read many times the following Scriptures that are perfectly clear to a simple layperson like myself …

[Leviticus 18:22] Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

[Hosea 4:6] My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

[Isaiah 5:20] Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

[Romans 1:26-32] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: [27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. [28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;[29] Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, [30] Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, [31] Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: [32] Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

[1 Corinthians 6:9-10] Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

After reading God’s Words – God’s Commandments – What is there to judge?  God has already judged and ruled on homosexuality (effeminate).

In closing in deep grief, all I can add is what Jesus Christ, Who is the Only Way to Heaven and the Only One Who can forgive sin, said when he saw the most evil deeds of the very men who crucified Him…

[Luke 23:34] Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

▬  Donna Calvin ▬ Wednesday, July 31, 2013

Pope Francis answers reporters questions during a news conference aboard the papal flight on the journey back from Brazil, Monday, July 29, 2013

Pope Francis answers reporters questions during a news conference aboard the papal flight on the journey back from Brazil, Monday, July 29, 2013



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fahri

posted August 4, 2013 at 6:58 pm


wow.



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Donna Calvin

posted August 2, 2013 at 11:10 pm


I can always count on my readers being fastidious. TY for pointing out the error. It’s been corrected. O:)



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Donna Calvin

posted August 2, 2013 at 11:09 pm


I can always count on my readers being fastidious. TY for pointing out the error. It’s been corrected. O:)



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Donna Calvin

posted August 2, 2013 at 10:38 pm


Gloria, I understand your confusion, your consternation and your plight. I was a CCD teacher, like you, for many years when I was Roman Catholic. Gloria, may I pray for you…Father God in Heaven, hallowed be Thy Name. Please send TRUTH to Gloria and remove her confusion for I read [1 Corinthians 14:33] For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. — Therefore, I boldly ask in the powerful and holy and righteous name of Jesus Christ to remove the confusion and replace it with peace — as in a mind that is settled. Amen. — Also, Gloria, read the comment on this page from “messup”. He speaks about Brazil and where it’s Cardinals are coming from. Pope Francis is from Brazil.



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Donna Calvin

posted August 2, 2013 at 10:26 pm


Scott, by all means, keep coming back and checking this web site, Watchwoman on the Wall. You have a lot to learn! For example, you think that God changes His mind? Sorry, but He doesn’t – Read [Hebrews 13:8] Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. — So if Pope Francis isn’t following the Bible, then what is his anchor? Where does he get absolute truth from? Read this: [Isaiah 5:20] Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! — Woe sounds pretty scary to me, Scott. Oh, and listen to this, Scott — HATE WHAT GOD HATES – [Psalms 97:10] Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked. — And try this out for size too. [Romans 6:23] For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. — Homosexual acts are sin. You can’t get around it.



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Donna Calvin

posted August 2, 2013 at 10:13 pm


Tom, it truly doesn’t matter what you think, in fact it doesn’t matter what you say to justify your behavior. What God says is what matters. And He has already spoken. Tom, your issue is NOT with those you name (hetrosexuals) but with God Himself. God made us, that is true, and I’m surely glad you acknowledge that. God is the Creator of All Things! That is a great revelation you’ve made! But you need to get to know God’s character, Tom. Because that admission of your’s from the very onset proves that you are without excuse. You cannot claim ignorance. — [Romans 1:20] For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: — You should know better and follow His commandments and not try to justify yourself. Only Jesus Christ can justify you! Even the worst of a serial kidnapper made excuses for his behavior, self-justification, recently. His name is Ariel Castro. Mr. Castro doesn’t see himself as a bad guy. He feels he was justified in what he did. We heard a litany of reasons of him justifying his own sinful, evil, ungodly behavior in court at his sentencing this week. In fact, most everyone calls Mr. Castro a monster for kidnapping 3 young women, Michelle Knight, Amanda Berry, and Gina DeJesus, and holding them captive for 9-11 years while raping, starving and torturing them, even beating one of them until she miscarried his baby twice! Mr. Castro claims he cannot help himself. I’m sure he feels he was “born that way.” I’m sure Mr. Castro doesn’t think he was influenced by demons. As far as your pride, Tom: Read [Psalms 10:3-7] For the wicked boasteth of his heart’s desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth. [4] The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts. [5] His ways are always grievous; thy judgments are far above out of his sight: as for all his enemies, he puffeth at them. [6] He hath said in his heart, I shall not be moved: for I shall never be in adversity. [7] His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity. — Also, Tom, I’d be very skeptical of that ” great spirit” you mention. Read this: [2 Corinthians 11:14] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. — Now, more on pride – [1 John 2:16-17] For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. [17] And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. — Choosing to sin is what is getting you into trouble. Being tempted is not a sin. Acting upon temptation is when the sin is done. You say that your feelings are not your choice. That may or may not be a choice, but you are responsible for your actions. Sin is in the actions, not in being tempted. Sin is a choice! And for all your choices, you will be held accountable before the Throne of God. Exactly.



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Tom Lerner

posted August 2, 2013 at 7:03 pm


Really folks….being gay is as much a part of a gay PERSON’S core as a heterosexual’s. God made us all equal and whole…We too are children of the great God Source Spirit…as Einstein said, ” God does not play dice with the universe”.We are NOT ill, under evil spirit influences, diseased, depraved, predators, or needing any therapy…(except to undo the harm inflicted upon our spirits by bigoted minded ignorant blind sighted heterosexual folks).
I have never been happier, prouder and more at ease knowing the love of the great spirit than today.
In 20 years the bigoted ill informed and hateful comments above will be seen as crazy and backward and ignorant of real spirit as the comments of George Wallace about black people in the 60’s.
In closing…ask yourself this question. “When exactly did you “choose ” to be heterosexual?”
Exactly!



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william spires

posted August 2, 2013 at 5:15 pm


This leaves little doubt as to the reason why some of the oldest organized religions are not taken seriously anymore. G-d does not change but the leaders do. Praying for and loving sinners does not mean rationalizing their sins and wrongdoing.



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Gloria

posted August 2, 2013 at 4:22 pm


I am so confused more than ever, I teach CCD and am a Catholic, so what do I say to my students when classes start in a few weeks??The Cardinals need to meet and think this over and talk to the Pope he must realize what he has done to all Catholics, He holds the highest in the Catholic religion, many look up to him, so now what ????



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RAYMOND HARRIS

posted August 2, 2013 at 11:03 am


You show a picture of Pope Benedict and quote from Pope Francis. Also the pope is saying the same thing Jesus said when he said he did come to heal the well but the sick.How can you reject them and then expect to to come to the Lord



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CArmen

posted August 2, 2013 at 7:59 am


That photo is not of Pope Francis, by the way!



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Scott

posted August 2, 2013 at 3:32 am


What a disappoint… …This article is.

The Bible does say those things, but it was also written centuries ago. The Bible also says “let he who has not sinned cast the first stone”, and consistently says to love(not hate). As far as all of the negative comments about how horrific it is that Pope Francis isn’t willing to judge homosexuals because of what the Bible says… Think about how brutal those times were! If we all lived according to the judgemental view of the Bible, we’d be extremely uneducated.

I thought this site was a spiritually forward site, but now I’ll be watching to see if this is an example of what the site’s about.



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Joe Clarke

posted August 1, 2013 at 2:36 am


I also was a Catholic, having gone to RC parochial schools for 11 years, and I remember in the 1960s when the Catholic church started turning a blind eye to fornication, adultery, and divorce. For the longest time the RC has pronounced that even priests can be homosexual if “they don’t act it out which is not a solution at all when considering all the problems they have had with a gay pedophile and hetero pedophile priests. Jesus did come to save us from EVERY sort of lust which the new Pope refuses to judge. Yes, Jesus did say to “Judge righteously” which the Pope is afraid to do, even if it means judging his admitted Gay Lobby at home in the Vatican. I Tweeted the Pope my thoughts on this and you can also if you can judge that it is a sin, while yet loving the sinner – even if its the Pope who sins.



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