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AZ Sheriff calls for Probe into Obama Birth Certificate

posted by Donna Calvin

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Sheriff Joe: ‘Probable cause’ Obama certificate a fraud

Team wants investigation elevated to criminal-forgery probe – person of interest ID’d

NOTE: In case you missed the news conference of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse,” WND plans to have the entire event available in 15-minute increments beginning Friday morning at this online location.

PHOENIX – An investigative “Cold Case Posse” launched six months ago by “America’s toughest sheriff” – Joe Arpaio of Arizona’s Maricopa County – has concluded there is probable cause that the document released by the White House last year as President Obama’s birth certificate is a computer-generated forgery.

The investigative team has asked Arpaio, who is at a news conference in Phoenix live-streamed by WND TV that began at 3 p.m. Eastern time, to elevate the investigation to a criminal probe that will make available the resources of his Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.

The posse says it has identified at least one person of interest in the alleged forgery of Obama’s birth certificate.

Arapaio, known for his strict enforcement of immigration laws, commissioned the investigative team after local citizens presented him with a petition expressing concern that Obama might not be eligible for Arizona’s presidential ballot.

In addition to the live-streaming, WND is making available to the public a report distributed to media today by Arpaio’s investigators.

GET A FREE COPY OF THE ARPAIO REPORT THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO PRESS TODAY

The posse, comprised of former law enforcement officers and lawyers with law enforcement experience, has interviewed dozens of witnesses and examined hundreds of documents. It also has taken numerous sworn statements from witnesses around the world.

Mike Zullo, Arpaio’s lead investigator, said his team believes the Hawaii Department of Health has engaged in a systematic effort to hide from public inspection any original 1961 birth records it may have in its possession.

“Officers of the Hawaii Department of Health and various elected Hawaiian public officials may have intentionally obscured 1961 birth records and procedures to avoid having to release to public inspection and to the examination of court-authorized forensic examiners any original Obama 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may or may not have,” Zullo said.

The investigators say the evidence contained in the computer-generated PDF file released by the White House as well as important deficiencies in the Hawaii process of certifying the long-form birth certificate establish probable cause that a forgery has been committed.

The investigation was launched after 250 members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party, presented a signed petition to Arpaio in August 2011 asking him to undertake the investigation.

The Tea Party members petitioned under the premise that if a forged birth certificate was used to place Barack Obama on the 2012 Arizona presidential ballot, their rights as Maricopa County voters could be compromised.

Arpaio believes a congressional investigation might be warranted and has asked that any information relevant to the investigation held by other law enforcement agencies be forwarded to his office.

The Cold Case Posse advised Arpaio that they believe forgers committed two crimes. First, they say it appears the White House fraudulently created a forgery that it characterized as an officially produced governmental birth record. Second, the White House fraudulently presented to the residents of Maricopa County and to the American public at large a forgery represented as “proof positive” of President Obama’s authentic 1961 Hawaii long-form birth certificate.

“A continuing investigation is needed to identify the identity of the person or persons involved in creating the alleged birth certificate forgery and to determine who, if anyone, in the White House or the state of Hawaii may have authorized the forgery,” Arpaio said.

Among the evidence released at the press conference are five videos – which can be seen at the end of this article – to demonstrate why the Obama long-form birth certificate is suspected to be a computer-generated forgery.

The videos consist of step-by-step computer demonstrations using a control document. They display the testing used by the investigators to examine various claims made by supporters of the April 27 document.

The investigators contend the videos illustrate their conclusion that the features and anomalies observed on the Obama long-form birth certificate were inconsistent with features produced when a paper document is scanned, even if the scan is enhanced by Optical Character Recognition, OCR, and optimized.

Additionally, the posse says, the videos demonstrate that the Hawaii Department of Health Registrar’s name stamp and the registrar’s date stamp were computer-generated images imported into an electronic document, as opposed to rubber stamp imprints inked by hand or machine onto a paper document.

“That we were able to cast reasonable suspicions on the authenticity of the registrar stamps was especially disturbing, since these stamp imprints are designed to provide government authentication to the document itself,” Zullo said, emphasizing that if the registrar stamps are forgeries, the document itself is likely a forgery.

The investigators also chronicled a series of allegedly inconsistent and misleading representations that various Hawaii government officials have made over the past five years regarding any original birth records held by the Hawaii Department of Health.

“As I said at the beginning of the investigation, the president can put all this to rest quite easily,” Arpaio said. “All he has to do is demand the Hawaii Department of Health release to the American public and to a panel of certified court-authorized forensic examiners all original 1961 paper, microfilm and computer birth records the Hawaii Department of Health has in its possession.”

Arpaio emphasized that the Hawaii Department of Health needs to provide, as part of the full disclosure, evidence regarding the chain of custody of all Obama birth records, including paper, microfilm and electronic records to eliminate the possibility that a forger or forgers may have tampered with the birth records.

The sheriff said the president should also authorize Honolulu’s Kapi’olani Hospital, the birth hospital listed on the Obama long-form birth certificate, to release any  hospital patient records for Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, his mother, and for the newly born Barack Obama, to provide corroboration for the records held in the Hawaii Department of Health vault.

“Absent the authentic Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other credible proof supporting the idea or belief that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, as he and the White House have consistently asserted,” Zullo said.

“In fact, absent the authentication of Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other proof he was born anywhere within the United States.”

In addition, investigators say they have developed credible evidence that President Obama’s Selective Service card was a forgery, based on an examination of the postal date stamp on the document. Also, records of Immigration and Naturalization Service cards filled out by passengers arriving on international flights originating outside the United States in the month of August 1961, examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., are missing records for the week of President Obama’s birth.

Read More: http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joes-posse-probable-cause-obama-certificate-a-fraud/

 

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Sheriff Arpaio: Obama birth certificate a ‘forgery’

By Stephen Dinan -The Washington Times – Thursday, March 1, 2012

PHOENIX — Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said Thursday he suspects the birth certificate President Obama released last year is a “computer-generated forgery” — and also raised questions about the authenticity of the president’s Selective Servicecard.“Based on all of the evidence presented and investigated, I cannot in good faith report to you that these documents are authentic,” Sheriff Arpaio said. “My investigators believe that the long-form birth certificate was manufactured electronically and that it did not originate in paper format as claimed by the White House.”

Questions over Mr. Obama’s birth certificate have been a political sideshow for the last four years, and have persisted despite repeated denials by the White House, and despite the release of evidence he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on Aug. 4, 1961. That evidence included both a certificate of live birth released during the 2008 campaign and the long-form certificate last year.

Fact-check organizations have concluded the certificates are authentic, and Mr. Obama has joked about those who questioned his birth. At last year’s White House Correspondents Association Dinner, soon after releasing his long-form certificate, he mocked Donald Trump, who had said his own investigators were looking into the matter.

Now Sheriff Arpaio, who first built his national profile by creating tent cities for jail inmates and later by taking a tough stance on illegal immigration, could reignite questions among those who continue to believe Mr. Obama was born outside the U.S., and therefore is ineligible to be president under the Constitution’s provision that the officeholder be a natural-born citizen.

Sheriff Arpaio said at least two crimes could have been committed in his view through the forgery. He repeatedly said he is not questioning whether Mr. Obama was born in the U.S., but instead is challenging the authenticity of the documents themselves.

He released a 10-page report detailing what his investigators said were “inconsistencies” in the text characters of the birth certificate image the White House released, and also questioned details of the computer file itself.

Some of those claims had earlier been raised on the Internet as well, and both the White House and independent fact-checkers have dismissed those questions, saying the computer file is consistent with the version of events the White House has detailed.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

It released the long-form certificate last year after repeated questions were raised by conservative activists and conspiracy-theory websites questioning the authenticity of the short-form certificate Mr. Obama released during the 2008 campaign.

The Justice Department has accused Sheriff Arpaio of civil rights abuses within his department, but he said he began his investigation before that — in August 2011, after tea party members from Surprise, Ariz., a town within Maricopa County, signed a petition challenging the certificate.

Sheriff Arpaio detailed former law enforcement officers who constitute what he called his “cold case posse” to do the investigation. He said no taxpayer dollars were spent.

He was joined in his press conference by Jerome Corsi, an author who has been critical of Mr. Obama. He was also one of those who took a critical look at Sen. John Kerry’s military service during his 2004 presidential bid.

Mr. Corsi made headlines when he traveled to Kenya, saying he wanted to track down where he thought Mr. Obama was really born.

Sheriff Arpaio said he went into the investigation with an open mind, and would have been happy to clear Mr. Obama.

His investigators said the computer file released by the White House appears to have been created on a computer, rather than having been originally made on paper and then scanned.

The investigators said they have identified “a person of interest” in the birth certificate.

Sheriff Arpaio’s chief investigator on the project said there are so many questions that he couldn’t have cleared Mr. Obama to be an employee of Maricopa County.

Pursuing questions over the birth certificate has been a thorny issue for the GOP. State lawmakers in several places, including Arizona, have pursued laws that would have imposed checks on any presidential candidate’s qualifications to get on their state ballots.

One such proposal in Arizona, which became known as the “birther” bill, was vetoed by Gov. Jan Brewer last year.

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Donna Calvin

posted August 22, 2012 at 8:12 pm


To mcx tips — HEADS UP — Obama might think he’s omnipotent, but God is, not Obama. Why does the press cover up for every evil Democrat while crucifying a conservative’s blip? (Think Todd Akin.) Because they are all anti-American, anti-Christs who engage in doing anything possible to advance the evil agenda of their father, the father of lies – Satan. Read the Bible and get educated. America was formed on Biblical principles and Satan hates America, the U.S. Constitution, and anyone who believes that America is special and a wonderful, unique experiment — being superior to communist and other evil forms of economic and governance systems. Obama is a Democrat — controlled by communist unions and the progressives in the Democrat Party – i.e. progressive is just another term for communist. The media is controlled by communists. If you don’t understand that it is different for Democrats than how conservatives are treated, then you are part of the problem. You’ve been brainwashed from the time you first watched Sesame Street until you watched your last mainstream communist controlled news media program or read the last communist, union controlled newspaper delivered to your door this morning and bought the last magazine like Time. You do not have a clue; otherwise, you would not ask such a question. What’s dubious? Look on the Net and on this blog and you’ll find a thousand reasons why! Grow up and do your own homework. I sure won’t be consulting with you for any commodity tips. You likely haven’t a clue about how economics work. Go to the web site of the Mises Institute < mises.org > and learn about economics of the free market. You might be in for the best education for anyone in your field and stop your foolish advice to advance communism.



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mcx tips

posted August 22, 2012 at 4:39 am


Please about Why is it dubious that he is a natural born citizen? Do you believe that he is so omnipotent that the state of Hawaii, the US government, and other powerful entities would help hide a fake birth…. thanks



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Terry S

posted May 18, 2012 at 9:13 pm


Why is it Obama has allowed his publisher to identify him as Kenya – born. And why did he not correct the AP (http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm) when they made the same statement as he was running for senate in 2004. I guess that these are “Convenient Untruths.” (No apologies to AlGore)



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Jay

posted May 15, 2012 at 5:56 pm


i WANT MY COUNTRY BACK ! I DONT WANT SOME MARKIST OR SOCILIST SETTING THERE IN THE OVAL OFFICE MAKEING A MOCKERY OUT OF OUR TRADITIONAL LAWS FORMED SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE UNITED STATES. FURTHERMORE, IF OBAMA IS FOUND TO BE THE CORRUPT NON AMERICAN AS MANY SUSPECT HE IS, WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE CORRUPT LAWS HE MADE? DO THEY JUST STAY TO BE A THORN IN OUR SIDE OR DOES THE CONGRESS TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION & DELETE THEM AS THEY SHOULD? WHAT HAPPENS TO US? SURELY WE CANT LET THEM STAY & OVER RIDE US! TAKE AMERICA BACK & GET THIS FARMER OUT OF OUR OVAL OFFICE AND LET JUSTICE PREVAIL! OBAMA HAS COMMITED IMPEACHABLE ACTS AS WELL AS TREASON , PUNISHABLE BY HANGING & GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE. LORD, PLEASE HEAL OUR LAND & THE PEOPLE IN IT & ROUT OUT ALL WHO DARE TO CORRUPT IT !



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Combat Vet

posted April 14, 2012 at 7:50 pm


i personally find it revolting that a Christian blog like this is trafficked by trolls like Beth. How dare she talk about the Constitution when she is shilling for the greatest criminal our nation has ever had to endure. Your hero Barry Soetoro Hussein whatever it’s name is, is ILLEGITIMATE period. I am a veteran of combat, thank you, and was required to provide my legitimate long form birth certificate to give my life for my country. Your comments are typical of serial trolls sent to deflect reason and truth. There is a Muslim plant sitting in our Oval Office who lies every time he opens his pie hole and violates the Constitution with abandon. It’s called treason Beth, but you wouldn’t understand that. We are currently living under abject tyranny in a police state under the iron fist of a anti-American despot with a teleprompter for a brain.

You moronic comment that no President has to validate their citizenship, displays your ignorance for all to see. McCain was forced by Senate resolution to produce all of his records yet your anti-American idol got a total pass. In fact Hussein signed on the the resolution demanding McCains records, McCain sold out not demanding reciprocity. GW Bush produced all of his records and have all other presidents by their parties nomination committee, who then certify they have verified the candidates Constitutional qualifications to run for CNC. A single parent who is a citizen is not acceptable to allow a person to run for President. Both parents must be citizens, see Supreme Court Decision Minor v. Happersett the defining decision demanding “parents” who are citizens to qualify. It has never been amended and is still the law of the land. Additionally, neither parent could confer natural born citizenship on you boy Hussein since his mother has to have lived in America for 5 years post the age of 14 to confer citizenship on Barry according the law on the books at the time of the alleged birth. Well Barry’s mother gave birth to Barry just short of her 18th birthday. Now I know you have issues with remedial math but 14 and 5 is 19, not barely 18! So your hero the usurper in chief who cancelled the national day of prayer but celebrated Ramadan as a Muslim, hates Jews and Christians and has committed treason and sedition against the United States multiple times. Those are both hanging offenses. By the way I took the to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC and have never nor will I ever violate said oath. So Beth take your serial troll bull somewhere else!



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Annie

posted March 21, 2012 at 3:46 am


I, for one, think that ANYONE who runs for President ought to have to fork over his birth certificate. I don’t think that ANYONE should be singled out…but EVERY PERSON in this matter.

As far as the Constitution goes, I understand it quite well, having been college educated.

This is not a race issue. I’m not pointing fingers. I just think that it needs to be thoroughly investigated…not by the right or the left, but by a bipartisan group that is not influenced by ANY political party.



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beth

posted March 18, 2012 at 7:46 pm


Yes, I forgot to state that many who refer to the Constitution would probably not know the different between a recitation of it and the Star Spangled Banner. Read and understand the Constitution before you refer to it, please.



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beth

posted March 18, 2012 at 7:42 pm


The birth certificate conspiracy is tantamount to seeing Elvis. Fantasy becomes REAL, when you believe! So if “race” is not the underlying factor, then why hasn’t any other president, or person vying for the position, been asked to show the validity of their birth certification? Why does the fact that he was born in Hawaii evoke suspicion? Why is it dubious that he is a natural born citizen? Do you believe that he is so omnipotent that the state of Hawaii, the US government, and other powerful entities would help hide a fake birth….If you do, then I know you had dinner with Elvis last night. And, it shows how horrible our educational systems are in this country….



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Chris

posted March 17, 2012 at 3:11 pm


I am tired of hearing racism every time someone brings this issue up. I’m tired of watching my country fall apart bit by bit.

I am so glad to see people still out there talking about Obama and his birth certificate. That is Obama’s legacy…a forged birth certificate. But way back when he was first campagning, i remember how the media hyped him up…how women fell in love with him and young people suddenly felt empowered and useful. It all goes back to Hitler…he did the same thing and he had occultists to thank for it. So does Obama. Don’t worry he doesn’t need our money like so many people think. He’s got powerful elite families backing him up…they tell him how they want this country destroyed and he does it. A perfect puppet.
The only thing Obama didn’t count on was this whole birth certificate issue to haunt him. The sheriff is a brave man as so are the others that are still on this and trying to educate the public.

I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK DAMN IT! And I don’t believe our founding fathers fought and died for communism to take over our country. People get off your couches, get off the tv and computer and get out in the real world. Take a look at what the government did to Arizona when the sheriff and governor tried to crack down on illegal immigration…just to check id’s…they were publicly disowned by Obama. Excuse me but the government is supposed to make sure immigrants have the documents they need to be in this country…no all they have gotten are our jobs and alot of ways to stay here illegally! (And there was a time when immigrants who took the time to go to citizen classes and who took the oath of citizenship were proud. i met a few. It’s not fair to those who are trying to do the right thing to become a citizen) There was even a part of Arizona that was abandoned because the fighting with the drug lords got so bad. And there is no way that was just a coincidence.

People we have a chance to do the right thing…lets use common sense this time. I warned people in the beginning, including my parents and no one listened. They were caught up in the hype…they fell in love with an actor who can’t even hire the right staff to forge a birth certificate flawlessly. We need to remember what our country was like before all of this…we need to remember when it was American and vote that way. We need to fight for our freedoms because once our constitution is gone and replaced with communism, we will never get it back and our history and our identity will be erased. Look at other countries for the proof…look at how communism failed and how many people were murdered because the government took all their money and left them to starve to death. That is what will happen if we keep this man in office!

Bravo to Sheriff Aripaio! I’m proud to know you are still doing your job!



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Annie

posted March 17, 2012 at 1:14 pm


I’m still trying to figure out how this became a supposed “race” argument and “anti-Christian” argument. It has to do with NEITHER. To sit here and call people names is immature. This has to do with the CONSTITUTION. I, for one, don’t care if you are white, black, yellow, blue, or orange. I also feel that the First Amendment allows you to worship in your own way without government interference.

If we continue to let ANYONE run over the Constitution and do what THEY want, this country is DEAD. I, for one, would want to know if ANY PRESIDENT or ANYONE running for office was trying to circumvent the Constitution for his own interests! I’m continuing to watch this story closely. Simple fact is that the technology DOES exist to forge documents on a computer. Happens all the time. Ask anyone who’s ever been the victim of ID theft.



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Rachel

posted March 17, 2012 at 12:10 pm


I’m truly stunned about all the deceived people on here. For you supposed Christans e that are fuming that this story is even posted here, you need to ask God for the truth and only the truth. You are being lied to and you are eating it right up.

First of all, who spends almost two MILLION dollars to SEAL THEIR RECORDS and to keep them sealed if they have nothing to hide? Good Lord are you folks really that blind?

Have you heard about Kagan? She was the Solicitor General for all the suits
against him filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural born
citizenship. Meaning he paid her to hide his records. Guess what? SHE’s now a
supreme court justice. WOW never even a judge before and now a Supreme court
justice. Now just how do you think something like that happens? That is what is
called a payback.

http://www.dailypaul.com/154490/elena-kagan-and-barak-obama-court-dockets

This is VERY interesting reading.

This has NOTHING to do with his skin color. He is corrupt to the core and he has the lame stream media protecting him.



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Dawn Elizabeth Slike

posted March 16, 2012 at 2:06 am


When this purported birth certificate was released by Obama last spring, it was immediately exposed as fraudulent and computer generated by a computer expert, who clearly showed via a youtube post how the document had been “layered,” and also how some of the information on this “certificate” was clearly untruthful. Obama has illegitimately used multiple social security numbers as well over the course of his adulthood. The truth will prevail, no matter how many people refuse to examine the evidence and no matter how many (lazy) people mock those trying to expose this phony. Obama is occupying the White House only because dunces are allowed by law to vote.



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Mary Hurtt

posted March 16, 2012 at 12:37 am


Shame on the sheriff in Az..



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Pat G

posted March 15, 2012 at 6:36 pm


Truth and transparency! That’s all we ask for. I can’t imagine why someone who is running for public office would want all their records sealed from the public??????



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beth

posted March 15, 2012 at 11:25 am


How can a supposedly “Christian” social site show non-Christians the love of God with such preposterous idiocy as displayed here? Joe and his supporters are no better than the most backwards, unlearned, and ignorant people who go around saying “I heard”, instead of being able to rightly divide fact from fantasy. They rely upon fantasy to assuage their disbelief that a Black man could possibly be so capable. The facts flies in the face of all racial tenets they have embraced for generations – that “they” are superior. Therefore, if they can’t find something dishonorable about the President, then they must find a way to say that he does not qualify for the presidency because he wasn’t born in the US. Joe will go down in history with “Bull” Connor, George Wallace, and others who because of self-deception and lack of knowledge are plastered indelibly in history as Fools.



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Carol

posted March 14, 2012 at 9:31 pm


This is not the same site I signed up for. When did it change? I missed it. I thought is was a Christian site. Thanks but no Thanks. Will delete it from my email.



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Harrybeme1

posted March 14, 2012 at 1:51 am


This is absurd and the fact that Beliefnet is taking part in spreading this nonsense makes me believe I do not want to continue visiting this supposedly Christian site!Please excuse me but I must be going!!



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Anne

posted March 14, 2012 at 12:48 am


So long Beliefnet. This post is ridiculous and so are YOU for showcasing this bigotry. Christian? I don’t think so!!!!!!!!



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Larrya PA

posted March 13, 2012 at 11:25 pm


keep up the good work Joeget the Kenyan out of here.



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you got to be kidding

posted March 13, 2012 at 11:12 pm


This man is so prejudice of a black man that accomplished more than he will be in his miserable life. He needs to get out of the Arizona sun. He has suffered brain damage.



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Shelley

posted March 13, 2012 at 10:36 pm


I cannot believe that Beliefnet has stooped so low. I have respected this site and it has lifted me many times when I was sad, depressed or needed a friend. I am so disappointed that Beliefnet would involve themselves in this issue. “He who casts the first stone”? Other than God raising his mother from the dead so she could testify as to his birthplace, what more can he do? Never has a president been more persecuted than this one.



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Fred Sayin

posted March 13, 2012 at 10:29 pm


Check Bureau of Vital Statistics maybe in Honolulu Hawaii.



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jennifer

posted March 13, 2012 at 9:08 pm


I think the sheriff is doing a great job finding any evidence that link Obama to a forged Birth Certificate. The rest of the world needs to hear this and Obama shouldn’t get away with this.



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Robert Wysznski

posted March 13, 2012 at 9:04 pm


He’s dealing with proven facts in this investigation and the Liberal Media with the Kool Aid drinkers are calling him a fraud!Sheriff Arpio’s a brave stand uo guy and I aplaud him for having the intestinal fortitude to pursue what is convincing evidence that Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud!



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Ann S.

posted March 13, 2012 at 7:28 pm


Is Joe Arpaio trying to take some of the heat off of him by bringing up this garbage again? Has he got tired of harrassing the Hispanic people so now he’s taking up something else, it’s really time for that man to go actually it’s pass time, and I’m with the other people, I can’t believe that beliefnet would stoop to print this mess I always enjoyed reading beliefnet but if this is the crap they intend to print then they are not better than Joe.



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CAR

posted March 13, 2012 at 7:08 pm


This is so far beyond the outer reaches of stupidity that I can’t believe this isn’t some half baked, third rate script for a B movie about racism.

The efforts to bring down the first African American President are so blatant that it defies reason and definitely shouldn’t be on a site about Christianity.

I think this site is being taken over by some racist hate group. This is the second article I’m seen like this on beliefnet.com

This kind of idiocy shows that racism is alive and well in the United States. We have a long, long way to go.

Jesus would not recognize these kinds of (self-identified) Christians, so filled with hate there is no room for the spirit of God. :-(



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bert

posted March 13, 2012 at 6:38 pm


so glad some one finaly knows the truth someone should of done this longgg ago ! we the people cant but you can do this joe!



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beth

posted March 13, 2012 at 6:11 pm


Satan is alive and busy on this site. Only ignorant, unlearned, unexposed, and illiterate persons would dare believe this garbage or credit the sheriff with any credibility. Yes, Hawaii is the 50th state in the union. Many people have never travel outside of the continental United States, so it seem “foreign” to them. And of course, he IS a Black man with a name they can’t pronounce. So that makes him “suspicious” and untrustworthy, huh? Well if you knew world history and studied genetics, you would find that everybody came from the same gene pool. There is no such thing as RACE. Everyone is the same, except for those who possess the recessive gene. But then, one has to have gotten beyond the primary school
years to have learned that, I suppose. Racists get over your racism. Fake Christians you had better stop hating so that Christ will not have to say, “I know ye not. Depart from Me ye workers of iniquity”.
And what will you do if you find out that Christ is BLACK? He was born in an area on “non-whites”. Don’t continue to be the walking jokes that you are!!!!



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Karen

posted March 13, 2012 at 6:08 pm


No this matter has not been put to rest and there is only one person who can put it to rest. If you think this is a race issue then you need to take your brain out and reshuffle it. It has nothing to do with Christianity, race, illegal immigrants or the KKK. If this President truly has the legal right to be a US President then let him prove it before a certified board with the proper documentation and put this matter to rest. Never before has any President been unable to show legal proof of birth. I want this president to show valid, legal, real proof and stop making a friggin joke out of it like flashing a coffee mug on TV with his BC on it. This is no laughing matter. Obama needs to quit joking around, playing around and take this matter, this country and his duties and obligations to the people of this country seriously. HE works for us you idiots and we have every right to ask to see proper credentials, no matter what his skin color. Skin color does not make a President and if anyone is racist around this forum . . .well ya might want to look in the mirror.



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Joyce Baker

posted March 13, 2012 at 6:03 pm


I congratulate u for ur diligence in investigating the possibility of Obama’s birth certificate & any other documents that could be fraudulent. I would like to see your investigation look into Obama’s social security card/number, as I have had information that his card was issued in Connecticut, a state where he never lived. I do not believe he was born in Hawaii or any of the US states.Thank you so much for taking on this vital investigation.



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Joe C

posted March 13, 2012 at 5:53 pm


There is nothing Christian or religious in this. Why is it on Beliefnet? I am not going to even comment on the factual idiocy of the radical right wing nonsense that has taken over this site. If you want to spread your hateful and sinful lies, you have the right to do it, but do not clog my email with it. How can those of us who (even though we may disagree politically) have a reality based view of politics in America fight this. I want my Beliefnet that honors God and provides solace and hope and Biblically based teaching. STOP THIS RADICAL AND HATEFUL TAKEOVER OF BELIEFNET.



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dusterdog

posted March 13, 2012 at 4:50 pm


All you upholding this dog are no better than him



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Jcerconex4@yahoo.com

posted March 13, 2012 at 4:48 pm


This guy (sheriff) 200 years ago will be dressed in a KKK outfit persecuting black, 100 years ago in the west persecuting indians, in 1960 in Birmirhan Alabama supporting anti-segregation and today persecuting latinos and our President!



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Anna P

posted March 13, 2012 at 4:42 pm


This nonsense has gone too far. I knew that far-right interests had “taken over” parts of Beliefnet, and here is the “evidence.” What does Arpaio’s paranoia have to do with Christianity or building up our Christian faith? Arpaio has his own problems legally and is throwing out these red herrings as a way to deflect from his own culpability in the way he “runs” Maricopa County. Shame on all of you who believe this and continue the lie. Don’t you have anything better to do? Apparently not.



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Doc G

posted March 13, 2012 at 4:38 pm


This site is nothing more than a race-baiting, liar-enabling tool. No one need wonder why Christians are referred to as the ultimate hypocrites, “Beliefnet” is the only evidence needed.
I am proud to unsubscribe to everything to do with this pseudochristian abomination!



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Robert

posted March 13, 2012 at 4:34 pm


Obama is a devious person. I saw one copy of his birth certificate. It stated that he was “African American”. The didn’t use that term when he was born. At that time they would have listed him as being “Negro”. It’s scary that he got this far with false information.



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ms lafleur

posted March 13, 2012 at 4:08 pm


This man is a joke! Some people are so scared President Obama will be re-elected that are going to do anything they can to discredit him and fill the public with false information. Lets continue to pray for Pres. Obama and his family and this country.



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Patsy Davis

posted March 13, 2012 at 3:56 pm


At least someone has come to his senses regarding Obama!



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Esther Jolivett

posted March 13, 2012 at 3:29 pm


I am both amazed and disgusted by the very idea that BeliefNet would even participate in such retoric,I would think they would try to win souls to Christ,but it appears that they have more of a political agenda now that a black man is President. I am very disappointed and will not recommend BeliefNet to any more of my friends.



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Gale Lewis

posted March 13, 2012 at 3:11 pm


I can’t believe this. This you are printing is
worse than any sin committed today. Lying and twisting the truth. President Obama is just as much an American as you are and I hope he is a christain. But your printing this garbage makes me wonder about your christianity.



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chris from miami

posted March 13, 2012 at 3:00 pm


whoever edits this section of Beliefnet is so right wing it boggles the imagination



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Monet Bourgeois

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:54 pm


I am so disappointed that beliefnet chose to post this article and the links which also support negative opinions about President Obama. This is not the forum for these types of political statements. It’s not about racism, it’s about realism. I don’t agree with everything the president does. I’ve never fully supported any president. However, I believe it is important that we have more respect for the the leader of our country. The birth certificate issue has been settled. LET IT GO!!! There are so many more pertinent issues that we need to address. I’m so done with this one. I am unsubscribing from your email list. I have found other sites that are more inspirational. There are plenty of sites where I can find political facts, opinions, and ideas. You have crossed the line and lost your focus. GOOD BYE!!!



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Truth Seeker

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:50 pm


Demand the Resignation of Sheriff Joe Arpaio

http://www.change.org/suggested?petition_id=160733



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Margaret

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:44 pm


This is nothing but pure racism and must make Jesus weep.



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John

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:44 pm


I don’t care how much time or state taxes you spend so that you can become one of two BIGEST ASS’S in Arizona. Do America a favor, You and the Govenor don’t move from Arizona, because both of you are an EMBARRASSEMENT to America. Good luck Arizonaians, LMAO……..



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dusty

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:41 pm


This crap is so old and this crack pot is just adding to his undeserved 15 minutes of fame



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TD Wallin

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:37 pm


I’m with Chuck. You should be ashamed of yourselves with some of the propoganda you’ve entertained here. I thought this was supposed to be a non-denominational site that welcomes all believers, not Right-Wing Evangelical kooks only!



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Karrie

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:37 pm


I will be removing all belief net stuff from my emails for promoting hate against our president, this was debunked years ago, plus I have a copy of my Birth Certificate , that is green with my states seal, it also has the date when I got the copy end the story , you fools are putting an agenda up because your fool of hate, this should not be in question no more.



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Jackie Baker

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:33 pm


TO JENNA, AND YOU THINK BUSH DID SUCH A GREAT JOB? BUSH LIED AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHERS BEFORE HIM, AND IT IS NOT A RACE ISSUE IT IS THE TRUTH. PRESIDENT STEP INTO THE MESS THAT YOUR BELOVED PRESIDENT BUSH LEFT BEHIND. WILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY BE TAKEN CARE OF FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, BUSH WILL. THE GAS PRICE, THE WAR, THE ECONOMY ALL WAS UNDER BUSH WATCH, AND NOW ALL THE IGNORANT REPUBLICIANS ARE UPHOLDING BUSH, JUST TO MAKE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THINK THAT THIS IS ALL PRESIDENT OBAMA’S FAULT. GIRL YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE, COME OUT FROM UNDER THAT ROCK YOU HAVE BEEN HIDING UNDER THE LAST 4YRS.



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chuck

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:33 pm


I’m outta here Beliefnet.com. You just revealed what you guys are truly “all about.”



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Frank

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:30 pm


I told all of my friends to be careful about wishing for a black president. I said that America was too prejudice and racist to respect a black president. Half of the republican party thinks he’s a muslim. Crazy. No one said anyone has to like him or agree with him but the respect for the office is gone because a black man holds it. I know people in other countries and they laugh at the intolerance that we have for a duly elected president. This is the greatest country in the world but we are not where we thought we were. Mitt Romney’s dad is a mexican. Do we check Romney’s birth certificate. He spent time in France. Does that make him suspicious? How come no other president has ever gotten this kind of scrutiny in our history? Because a black man is in charge, that’s why.



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Truth Seeker

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:30 pm


“Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has failed to protect the public and carry out his duties as an elected official in a Constitutional manner. The latest disclosure that MCSO failed to investigate hundreds of sex-crime cases involving children is just one in a long list of atrocities that have taken place under Arpaio’s 20 years in power. Too many people have died in Arpaio’s jails, too many citizens’ Constitutional rights have been trampled, too many people have been forced to live in fear of retaliation for daring to challenge the Sheriff’s policies. Now is the time to end his reign of terror, abuse and willful disregard for the Arizona and United States Constitution.”



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Jackie Baker

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:27 pm


I BELEIVE THIS MAN IS OF SATAN WHO IS TRYING TO DISCREDIT OUR PRESIDENT, I ALSO FEEL THAT THERE IS SO PREJUDICE DUE TO PRESIDENT OBAMA BEING A AFRICAN AMERICAN. I FEEL THAT SHERIFF APRAIO NEEDS TO SERACH HIS SOUL AND ASK GOD FOR DELIVERANCE FROM THIS HATRED THAT IS OBVIOUS THAT HE CARRIES IN HIS HEART NOT JUST FOR OUR PRESIDENT BUT FOR ALL RACE OF COLOR. SOME THINGS JUST NEED TO BE LEFT IN THE HANDS OF THE LORD.



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Harold

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:26 pm


Remove us from your mailing list. As long as the president was a white person there was no problems. Land of the free, according to who?



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Harry in Oklahoma

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:23 pm


I subscribed to this site thinking as a Christian I would get some inspirational devotionals and fortification about my faith.

I have seen a slew of partisan political content over and over and always very filled with hate and only slanted to the Republican agenda. I will need to find daily devotionals and content somewhere else that does not exclude people such as myself.

If my Methodist Minister were to spew some of this stuff from the pulpit I would be extremely disappointed and go to church elsewhere. Christianity as I see it is inclusive and loving. I do not see that from this site and it’s obvious political agenda….



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F. Walker

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:23 pm


I am appalled by these types of articles on the Beliefnet pages… These are not Christian commentaries but commentaries of hate by people who pass themselves off as Christian. Being Republican does not equal Christian, in fact in many cases it goes against Jesus’ belief to love everyone. I am going to have to rethink my subscription…



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Pcoolsees

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:21 pm


We have com so far in America with race relations. Why are we continuing to discuss the President’s birth certificate..all that’s been settled! This is for all the “white’s” who think the President just lie to American. I say they don’t want to her the truth. George Bush your beloved white President, all he did was lie to us. The “white racist’s in American I hope they get they another white President,I guarantee we will be going to war again!



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Dee

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:19 pm


So many in the US and around the world appear to be so hungry to be the one who spread the largest amount of hate, to the point where they will work night and day to do what they appear to enjoy the most. “being inappropriate. President Obama has displayed his Birth Certificate to the American People. Has the Sheriffe displayed his BC? Probably not and we do not care. He is a human being like the President trying to do good and represent the safety of the people of Arizona.
We eat the poison of unforgiveness, thinking it will destroy “THE OTHER PERSON……It will destroy the hater in the end.



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Milo

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:18 pm


Bush had the same agenda. These Presidents are no more then puppets who are being controlled by a very few, and it’s time that the people of America take their country back and that big government listen to the people, it should not be the other way around. Stop listening to the controlled media and begin thinking for yourself



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Liz

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:16 pm


I’m disgusted Beliefnet felt the need to put this article up in the first place. I need to rethink subscribing to their emails



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wgoin

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:11 pm


The stupidity of this sheriff is beyond belief. But, he is being investigated for wrongdoing in his job so I guess he needs to throw attention elsewhere. But, he just instigates the ignorant who are still so angry that a black man is our President. The stupidity of this group is staggering.



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Jenne

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:11 pm


Thank you Sheriff Arpeio for having the guts to stand up and say what most of us really do know about this President! And every time someone questions the president, they are racist? This is so blatantly out of touch! I am so sick of these people who call everyone racist who doesn’t go along with this president and his new world order agenda. Are these people blind? I don’t care what color the president is, but if he isn’t a good one, the the truth needs to be exposed. Stop calling people racist because they have a different view, what a stupid reason to keep a President who has literally undermined our freedoms, has made so many promises that he has not kept and continues to lead us down the hole of a third world country. Better wake up. And yes, this is as good a sites any to expose wrong.



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David Beard

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:10 pm


I find it to believe that a “spiritual” site such as Beliefnet would stoop to promoting extreme right partisan politics that is racistm,inflammatory and intended to disrupt the peace of the USA. I am extremely disappointed that this article and others like it are being promoted through Beliefnet. They do not belong on this site at all!



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I AM GLAD I WAS NOT BORN N AMERICA!

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:10 pm


Only in America will a racist and stupid idea such as this will continue and supported by a biggoted Christian ideology. I had honestly thought this was truly a Christian website, I did not know this is another hiprocracy like everything during the slavery when the christians south wholly supported slavery and was against freedom even though the bible is against owing slaves.

Count me out of this website henceforth!!!



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Marlene Emmett

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:08 pm


What is with the Sheriff from Arizonia??
Would someone please tell me?
Why can’t they beleive that President Obama was born in Hawaii?
It IS A STATE!!!!
It’s part of the United States of America!
And I beleive that they’re saying that they’re getting information that says he’s
not born in Hawaii from people who share
their views just to stir up Trouble!!!
this is really ridiculious!!.
Let’s end this~ there are more important
things to think of then this.
Like the World Economy!!!
MarleneEmmett1/marlene f. Emmett



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Your Name

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:07 pm


This article should be in a white supremacist forum~I cannot believe that it’s in this religious group



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gusverdult@yahoo.com

posted March 13, 2012 at 2:05 pm


God bless you sheriff



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Vivian

posted March 13, 2012 at 1:58 pm


I am so sad to here so many people speak ill of another person. So I guess you are not really christians Right? Or you are not reading your bible. Because how can you say that you love the Lord whom you have never seen and hate your brother whom you see daily. SHAME, SHAME SHAME!



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Bill

posted March 13, 2012 at 1:57 pm


Sorry, but these claims seem to me to be red herrings, brought out to cause doubt. It seems this tactic has been used during many political campaigns to influence opinions about a candidate. In my opinion, I have seen more than enough proof that our president was born in the United States of America. It is sad that tactics like these play such a prominent role in our elections (instead of the real issues at hand).



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Yeye

posted March 13, 2012 at 1:52 pm


This story is so old and it is sad that people who are supposedly leaders are always turning up untruth. First of all, in order to determine that his birth certificate is a forgery, you have to put his mother as giving birth to him in Kenya. Racism is rearing it’s ugly head and people will just not leave it alone. It is sad that this country is moving in a backward direction. So, Africans who’s kids were born and raised here in the US are not eligible to run for the Presidency? Fools such as this sherriff will find a way of stating that birth certificates were forged. Sad for this country and these fools do not know that disrespecting our President is disrespecting our country. Other nationals, am sure, are baffled as to how many ignorant people live in this country.



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Cynthia

posted March 13, 2012 at 1:51 pm


Why is this being discussed on a site such as this? Why is this Sheriff spending time and dollars investigating an issue that is completely out of his jurisdiction. For this being a Christian site, you sound very racist and bigoted.



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Donna Atchley

posted March 13, 2012 at 1:49 pm


I don’t believe for a minute Obama was born in Hawaii. Having spent his early years with his father who is a devout anti-American, don’t you think the constant ‘Americans have to die’ that was fed to him hasn’t taken affect? He is so influenced by the Muslum influence he can’t see any other path. Isn’t it also strange that no one (including the man himself) seems to remember that he’s half white? There is seldom ever any mention of that part of his family tree? The sheriff is right in what he is doing. I live in Arizona and I see daily what’s coming across the border and the horrible things that are happening. If we had more people in office that had the guts to stand up and enforce the laws we have, this country might get straightened out. As it is, that man in the White House is taking us down the tubes.



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ISpike

posted March 13, 2012 at 1:44 pm


I would rather Sheriff Joe investigate Area 51 or Big Foot.

This is stupid.



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Mike Reineck

posted March 13, 2012 at 1:42 pm


Why this website, formerly respected, would repeat the racist Sheriff’s so called “independent” investigation is beyond me.

Good bye for eternity.



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Steve Nichols

posted March 13, 2012 at 1:35 pm


President Obama doesn’t know how to tell the truth and will continue to lie to the American people.



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Rawle

posted March 13, 2012 at 1:18 pm


Really!!!!



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Monica

posted March 13, 2012 at 11:42 am


I agree with Rev Simms this is horrible. It goes to show that we have not come a long way. Racism is as “live” as ever. This sheriff is out of his “skull” You should have questioned whether Pres. Bush was insane. Look at all the bad choices he made. Which got us in this mess in the fisrt place. That is when questions should have been asked. All of this only makes our Highly Educated President even stronger. Keep up the good work Sheriff, it only makes him stronger.



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Eileen Hirota

posted March 13, 2012 at 4:43 am


I am from Hawaii. My daughters’ birth certificate are in black. They were born in 1976 & 1977. If Obama was born in Hawaii, his birth certificate should be in black, the original. Now, they are light green. My youngest daughter was born in 1980 and she has the light green birth certificate. How did Mr. Obama get his green certificate when he was born in 1961? Best to find the original birth certificate in black and white.



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Donna Calvin

posted March 12, 2012 at 9:28 pm


Since you mentioned names, Rev. Simms, I have a question for you. My ordained minister, Pastor Ernie Sanders, of Doers of the Word Baptist Church http://www.wrwl.org says that the use of the word Reverend is to be reserved ONLY for God. I note you call yourself Reverend. Read Holy Scripture … (KJV – Psalms 111:9) He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant forever: holy and reverend is his name. — Pastor Sanders teachers that it is GOD’S NAME that is be called REVEREND and no other. Do you think you are being reverend in your claim to the title? He is on the radio and has a 800 toll free call in number. I’m sure he’d be happy to discuss this with on the air. Listen To “What’s Right, What’s Left” With Pastor Ernie Sanders, “The Voice of Christian Resistance” …. In and around Cleveland, Ohio, Eastern Time, 10PM-12AM Mon-Fri 1220 AM Radio Or, On the Internet http://www.WHKWradio.com, When Not Preempted. Call into The Radio Program, Nation-Wide 1-888-677-9673, Locally 1-216-901-0933.



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Rev. Simms

posted March 12, 2012 at 1:46 pm


As many of white people that have been nominated President of these United States, I have never seen such a blatant call back of racism than I have in the election of our nation’s first African American President. People like Sheriff Arpaio and many others, never questioned any other President elected before now on their birth or the size of their shoes, didn’t care about how the country was being manipulated by the Bush era, never asked whether the Bush Family were born here. I’m sure he has a plenty to do beside use the taxpayers money to chase down fabricated info. Now the question I have is, is he getting kickbacks from the Mexican Cartel for letting them tunnel into Arizona? Where is he from with a last name like his?



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