Watchwoman on the Wall

Watchwoman on the Wall


Supreme Court kills White House’s effort to control church leaders

posted by Donna Calvin

Rick Santorum, United States Senator from Pennsylvania In office January 3, 1995 – January 3, 2007

Pat Toomey, United States Senator from Pennsylvania, Assumed office January 3, 2011 (He replaced Arlen Specter)

Arlen Specter, United States Senator from Pennsylvania In office January 3, 1981 – January 3, 2011

Watchwoman: That the U.S. Supreme Court killed the White House’s effort to control church leaders dictating who they would be forced to hire and not be allowed to fire including so do mites and what nots,  is great news. Now for some background on how the Supreme Court managed to kill the effort by the evildoers to force churches to hire objectionable people.  Dating back a few years ago on how this Supreme Court got Chief Justice Alito and Judge Clarence Thomas approved is important because they are the two who managed to kill this evil legislation.  Without their votes, this evil law would be the law of the land, that churches could be dictated to hire all the worst of the objectionables regardless of how widely opposed they were to their church’s beliefs.  At the time, the then Senator Rick Santorum in Pennsylvania backed Senator Arlen Specter, the incumbent US Senator, at the desire of then President George W. Bush II.  Senator Arlen Specter was a flaming liberal Republican and Pat Toomey, the challenger, was a good man, a religious conservative running as a Republican, opposing Specter for reelection. I don’t think any truly conservative religious organization didn’t approve Pat Toomey while loathing Arlen Specter’s liberal voting record.  Many of us were very upset with Santorum at the time for supporting Arlen Specter. Here is why Santorum did what he did, even beyond the idea that his boss, President Bush told him to, and that’s not easy to overcome in politics.  Disregard that.  Here is the main point.  Arlen Specter blackmailed the Republicans. Here is how he did it.  Specter was the head of the Judiciary Committee and Specter had the power in his grasp to see to it who got appointed to the Supreme Court and who didn’t.  Specter said if the Republican Administration, including President Bush, backed him, he would see to it that Alito and Thomas got approved; otherwise, he’d make sure they didn’t. So Santorum looked at it this way, 6 years of Specter as added onto his incumbency or 60 years of flaming liberals on the Supreme Court appointed to lifetime positions.  Rick Santorum chose the better of the two choices he had.  Back Specter’s reelection and gain two very important seats on the U.S. Supreme Court for the next theoretical 60 years.  6 years vs. 60 years.  Santorum’s decision back then has now effected this outcome of this important decision of the Supreme Court to  kill the effort to control church leaders, dictating who they can and cannot hire or fire.  This decision would not have gone in the church’s favor if Santorum had not backed Specter and Specter had torpedoed these two conservative men, Alito and Thomas, from being appointed to the Supreme Court.  So that’s why I can forgive Rick Santorum for what he did that angered me so grossly at the time. The net result is that we have gotten rid of Arlen Specter, plus we have two conservatives on the U.S. Supreme Court, and 6 years later, we finally got Pat Toomey as a U.S. Senator in PA.  ▬  Donna Calvin

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Wednesday the United States Supreme Court delivered a knockout blow to the White House in the cause of religious liberty.

by Joel McDurmon on Jan 12, 2012

Fox News reports,

Chief Justice John Roberts, writing for a unanimous court swatted away the government’s claim that the Lutheran Church did not have the right to fire a “minister of religion” who, after six years of Lutheran religious training had been commissioned as a minister, upon election by her congregation.

The fired minister — who also taught secular subjects — claimed discrimination in employment. The Obama administration, always looking for opportunities to undermine the bedrock of First Amendment religious liberty, eagerly agreed.

There was just one big problem standing in the way of the government’s plan: the U.S. Constitution. For a long time American courts have recognized the existence of a “ministerial exemption” which keeps government’s hands off the employment relationship between a religious institution and its ministers or clergy.

Here, in this case, the Department of Justice had the nerve to not only challenge the exemption’s application but also its very existence.

But, Chief Justice Roberts pushed back hard, telling the government essentially to butt out:

“Requiring a church to accept or retain an unwanted minister, or punishing a church for failing to do so, intrudes upon more than a mere employment decision. Such action interferes with the internal governance of the church, depriving the church of control over the selection of those who will personify its beliefs. By imposing an unwanted minister, the state infringes the free exercise clause, which protects a religious group’s right to shape its own faith and mission through its appointments. According the state the power to determine which individuals will minister to the faithful also violates the establishment clause, which prohibits government involvement in such ecclesiastical decisions.”

Source: http://americanvisionnews.com/1187/supreme-court-kills-white-houses-effort-to-control-church-leaders

 



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Donna Calvin

posted January 28, 2012 at 6:06 pm


Cindy,

I don’t know which god you believe in, but it cannot be the God of the Holy Christian Bible, Jesus Christ. Because if it were, you would not be so deceived and ignorant. Not only are pastors called to speak the truth in love, but so are all bona fide Christians. Why? To serve Jesus Christ and do what He did, to save that which is lost. Your pastor, whoever he is, is failing in his job and calling. However, if he were a true Christian, he would be doing the work of His Father, God of the Bible, which obviously he is not because you remain a simple person surrounded by darkness.

[Ephesians 4:15] But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

The government of Jesus time included Herod. Herod was a Jewish ruler who lived in a great and beautiful palace. Jesus was very partisan. Jesus condemned the evil Jewish leaders of His time. He called them whited sepulchres, full of dead men’s bones, full of all uncleanness, hypocrisy and iniquity.

[Matthew 23:27-28] Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness. [28] Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. [29] Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous.



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Cindy

posted January 28, 2012 at 11:44 am


I am truly disappointed that a religious network would even get involved in partisan bias and associated chaos. I believe in GOD. I don’t need my minister to tell me how to vote anymore than I need to see how many atrocities are committed in the name of religion. The basic rules of The Ten Commandments is what I live by. Do you?



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David

posted January 27, 2012 at 8:39 pm


The Obama team is not for christian people.They are just like Hitlers team check the history books. They want to lock up the christian leaders ,to take over just as in the past.When Obama came to our town a preacher ask Obama some questions he did not answer any of them.A true MUSLIM SUPPORTER A christian follower does not kill babies



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Esmeralda Villanueva

posted January 27, 2012 at 8:28 pm


Before you vote!!Please go to the youtube and type all candidates running for President and President Obama. You will find it out who they really are. VOTE FOR THE RIGHT PERSON A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT NOT FOR THE PARTY………



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Wanda

posted January 27, 2012 at 2:28 pm


Mike,

President Obama’s agenda against Christianity is only clear to someone who hates the President for no reason and is trying to make up reasons to do so. He is more Christian than most of the far right and, hopefully, we’ll get to have him as our President for 4 more years. We need his sanity after 8 years of Bush.



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Wanda

posted January 27, 2012 at 1:48 pm


Mike,

President Obama has NEVER tried to destroy Christianity – he is a Christian (let me guess, you believe the moronic rantings about Muslim, right)? And, he clearly loves the United States more than most of the far right who believe that if you don’t believe JUST LIKE THEM you can’t be American or Christian. This type of Christianity is what kills Christianity and our country. The hatred spewed by the far right is not the Christianity I grew up learning and I’m glad I learned differently.



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Mike

posted January 27, 2012 at 1:22 pm


Wanda… Why do you hate Christianity? Of course it’s “disgusting” to someone opposed to Christianity and the ability of a church to decide who works in it. You would probably approve of a state-run church such as the churches in China… aka, a leftist dictatorship.



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Mike

posted January 27, 2012 at 1:18 pm


Yvette, of course you found the article “evil”… you don’t like that a church can make it’s own decisions about who it hires and fires. You must approve of Obama’s efforts to destroy not only Christianity, but the United States.



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Mike

posted January 27, 2012 at 1:17 pm


Anns… you rail against “flaming liberals” and talk about Conservatives getting into name-calling.. Then you back that up by sayhing “How Christian of you”. Seems to me you did exactly what you complained about. Very liberal of you.



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Mike

posted January 27, 2012 at 1:14 pm


Obama’s agenda against Christianity is very clear. Thank God for the wise decision by the Supreme Court. Hopefully, we won’t have to deal with Obama and his gang after next January.



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anns

posted January 27, 2012 at 10:35 am


Please “flaming liberals”! You do know, don’t you, that just because someone is a liberal you don’t necessarily agree with everything an administration does I hope. Right away conservatives get into name calling. How Christian of you to do so. That would be like me saying Conservatives think they have the market cornered in Christianity.



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Yvette

posted January 27, 2012 at 9:41 am


Seriously? I found this article to be “evil” in itself. I guess some people will believe it, but my guess is that the more intellegent people will just feel sorry for those who will take this to heart.



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