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Judge Not! The misunderstood “11th” commandment (Response to missusa’s comment)

posted by Donna Calvin

Watchwoman: I received a comment from a very ignorant reader responding to an article entitled:  FOX’s GLEE to show gay teen sex for first time – located at: http://blog.beliefnet.com/watchwomanonthewall/2011/11/foxs-glee-to-show-gay-teen-sex-for-first-time.html#ixzz1eCOphxVR.   Here is the comment:  ”missusa” wrote: ”Your supercilious. Doesn’t the bible state that we shouldn’t judge. Your a sinner by the way too. What is the record of this sin as directed toward other believers with whom we have some minor disagreement or conflict? What have we given ourselves permission to say and do?”  This person, “missusa”, is not a very good speller.  She wrote: “Your supercilious” — “your” is spelled incorrectly, it’s should be “You’re supercilious” and she misspells “Your” again, writing, “Your a sinner”.  First, let me address that the sin of sodomy is no MINOR disagreement.  God calls it an abomination.  An abomination is not minor, now is it?  Next, let me address the second point:  As far as me being a sinner, that is correct.  In fact, we are all sinners.  We all have been born sinners — every human being ever born, all have been born into original sin.  { [Romans 3:23]  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. }  We are not bent towards doing good naturally, as liberal, ignorant unbelievers try to pawn off onto immature and ignorant believers and unbelievers as an absolute truth, but we are born loving to enjoy sinful behavior.  That is why we need a Savior Jesus Christ.  No one is perfect.  All are born heading right towards hell.  Without Jesus Christ, every man, woman and child ever born would be headed to hell and end up there without Jesus Christ’s sacrifice.  That is why we all should repent and accept Jesus Christ as our Messiah.  Read the article at this enclosed hyperlink and be saved! Halt your trip to hell today.  Don’t delay another moment!  Where you will spend your eternal life depends upon your reading the most important message of your life!  → Click the following →  “Inspirational. Do you know for sure?” posted on Tuesday July 26, 2011 located at http://blog.beliefnet.com/watchwomanonthewall/?p=4928 .  Next point, about this poor ignoramus who lacks the ability to understand about the real truth of God’s Word about judging.  Read on and learn the truth about judging and how uninformed “missusa” is, read the article posted below.  And the final point, it is not about what we have given ourselves permission to say and do, but about what God has given us permission to say and do.  Start by conforming with the Ten Commandments and then daily, without fail, read and study the Bible, for in studying the Bible is how we are made clean.  { [John 15:3]  Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. } ▬ Donna Calvin

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The misunderstood 11th commandment: Thou shall not judge

Regardless of the level of theological sophistication, we can always be sure the critics “know” one thing: The Bible says that we should not judge one another. Anyone who would do so is clearly being un-Christian. Such obtuse reasoning is employed against Christians who offer a negative commentary on certain cultural trends, behaviors or lifestyles. Still, I wonder how many people have taken this concept to its logical conclusion?

We now hear that in our modern times, John 3:16 has been replaced by Matthew 7:1, as the most often quoted scriptural passage. This is clearly because we have taken the focus off of what the Creator has done for us, and placed it on the creatures do for themselves. We have taken the emphasis off of grace, and have instead made the approval of moral pluralism the quintessential virtue of the age.

The very idea that all judging is wrong, is an illegitimate synthesis between Christianity, moral relativism, and the contemporary perspective on “tolerance.” These ideas have been wedded together to conjure up witch’s brew of self-contradictory sophistry.

Christianity has traditionally viewed “tolerance” through a prism of scriptural precept that parallels the garden variety dictionary definition. The scriptures say things like, “Love endures all things,” and “As much as it depends on you, live peacefully with all men.” The traditional definition is that “tolerance” is graciously enduring those who you disagree with.

Today, “tolerance” has been reconstructed to mean something entirely different. Essentially it means that all ideas, lifestyles and truth claims, are deemed equally valid. Christian author and speaker Josh McDowell refers to this phenomenon as “negative tolerance” (permission) versus “positive tolerance” (approval). One can readily see how this new definition of tolerance circles back to the claim made about judging. If nobody has a superior moral position, then nobody has the standing to “judge” anything in terms of ethical hierarchy.

But does the use of Matthew 7:1, as a stand-alone quotation, bring contextual justice to the point Jesus is making? Of course not. Later in the passage, Christ refers to certain people unable or unwilling to assimilate spiritual things. He refers to them figuratively as “pigs” and “dogs.” That sounds a bit like judging to me! In the book of John, Jesus talks of rendering a “righteous judgment,” rather than none at all. The point was never that we should not make moral judgments, or employ an ethical hierarchy in being discreet about evaluating “right” and “wrong.” The idea was that there should be no “double-standards.” We should not judge others by a standard we would not want to be judged with ourselves. This is how we avoid “judgmentalism” and cronin fault-finding. We are exhorted to correct our own hypocrisies before reforming the world.

Title Page of the King James Bible. 400 Years Old in 2011. The title page's central text is: "THE HOLY BIBLE, Conteyning the Old Testament, AND THE NEW: Newly Translated out of the Originall tongues: & with the former Translations diligently compared and revised, by his Majesties speciall Comandement. Appointed to be read in Churches. Imprinted at London by Robert Barker, Printer to the Kings most Excellent Majestie. ANNO DOM. 1611 ." At bottom is: "C. Boel fecit in Richmont.".

Now that is very different from telling someone that they shouldn’t dare to call anything wrong. In fact, such reasoning will ultimately lead to calling evil good and good evil. This is because evil cannot be called evil, since such labeling is judgmental. Good is considered evil, because those who are endeavoring to do good by calling something else wrong, are guilty of judging. How could any court of justice operate if all judgment without exception were considered wrong? All criticisms of anything would have to be withheld on the basis that such critiques are judgmental in nature.

Christian apologist Greg Koukl offers us the perfect antidote to this apparent logical dilemma. He says that we must be egalitarian in terms persons, but elitist in reference to ideas. That principle is embodied in the old ecclesiastical adage that we are to hate the sin, yet love the sinner. This is a perfect expression of “righteous judgment,” but it is a posture that would be condemned today as grossly judgmental. And yet in effect, is it any different from saying, “We support the troops, but oppose the war (We have concern for the person, but disapprove of the cause)?” The latter position is assumed to be accepted as valid without question, despite the fact that the former is seen as intolerant. Interesting paradox.

Last year an editorial writer to my local newspaper made a preposterous claim. He declared that the only hope for the peaceful co-existence of mankind, was that each of us must accept and respect the other guy’s truth. We can’t be dogmatic and say the other guy is wrong. But in articulating such a standard, the writer himself is engaged in judging, not to mention being dogmatic. Applying Koukl’s axiom to this situation, we might say that all people deserve respect because of their unique position as reflecting the image of God. But in the process of evaluating the cogency of ideas, the writer clearly is confused, as he seeks to reconstruct the term “truth,” by making it tantamount to opinion.

The idea that we can never judge about anything is patently absurd. To say that we can never judge is to wander aimlessly. The scriptures tell us that we should reprove each other, speaking the truth in love. What our society lacks is righteous judgment. What we have an abundance of is knit-picking and indifference. Neither of those two alternatives promotes justice and righteousness.

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Read also Watchwoman’s Previous Post: – FOX’s GLEE to show gay teen sex for first time
http://blog.beliefnet.com/watchwomanonthewall/?p=9270

Read also:  “Inspirational. Do you know for sure?” posted on Tuesday July 26, 2011 located at http://blog.beliefnet.com/watchwomanonthewall/?p=4928 

 

 

 



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Naysayer

posted March 23, 2012 at 4:34 pm


Actually, the true problem of the interpretation of Matt 7:1 is that is makes people afraid or averse to being judged. A good Christian judging people from their love of God and distress at others’ flagrant disrespect of God should say…

BRING IT ON! JUDGE ME!

But, judge us in our own measure: by those that love God and strive to please God with the Bible as their word and guide. Not judged by moral relativists and self-centered atheists twisting all logic and morality to allow them to get away with murder.

JUDGE ME, I say, because I hope to be judged and guided by those that will help me grow as a Christian and help my love of God blossom more.



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posted November 20, 2011 at 8:10 pm


Judgement is not even wrong. It’s faulty reasoning. Too often our judgements are based on appearance and he said, she said.Neither necessarily based in reality. We need to take our time and try to discern where people are coming from. Absolutist claims are imploding on themselves as fast as they are being made.I hope this is coming across as opinion, not judgement.



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    Donna Calvin

    posted November 21, 2011 at 4:47 pm


    The main thing we should focus on, solitude1951, is not what “he said, she said,” but what has GOD SAID. We are not to judge by man’s standards, but by God’s Standards. For that, we have to know and understand Holy Scripture. Most of the US Law and our U.S. Constitution was based upon the Holy Bible dictates. That is why America was blessed for so long. However, in modern times, people are falling away from God’s Standard and have fallen into the pit of judging by what one man says or what one woman (or a group of people) say. We have to get back to basing our judgments on what God has already declared. America needs to repent of their sin of overlooking God’s Commandments and judging by God’s Standards. BTW, God is ABSOLUTE. And God and His Word will never implode upon itself. God is eternal. God’s Word is eternal. [Luke 21:33] Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. That is as absolute as one can get. Scripture cannot be broken – cf. John 10:35. Satan foolishly tries to break scripture and he never succeeds. God always was, is, and forever will be. Scripture is as eternal as God. One thing every human being can count on absolutely, God always wins! No one can ever win an argument that opposes God’s Word. God wins! Man’s opinions are not worth the ink to write them or the space to publish them. Trying to clean up what you write by saying it’s opinion doesn’t cut it with me. You’re making a judgment call. Deceive yourself, try to, but you cannot deceive the God who knows everyone’s heart. He knows exactly what you mean and you will stand before His Judgment seat and have to defend yourself one day — unless you repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your only way to eternal life in heaven, covered in His Shed Blood, acknowledge Jesus Christ as your Messiah, Lord, Master, Savior and Redeemer and surrender all you have to Him, including your opinions — every one of them.

    Read this and may you come to believe! – “Inspirational. Do you know for sure?” posted on Tuesday July 26, 2011 located at
    http://blog.beliefnet.com/watchwomanonthewall/?p=4928



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