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OnStar Tracking – Giving Data to Gov’t

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Watchwoman: Do you believe that cancelling OnStar will protect you from being tracked by the government in light of the first story – OnStar will track you even if you cancel service  . . . Don’t ever forget that GM is really GOVERNMENT MOTORS!  Bought and paid for with your tax dollars – stolen from you!  This is communism and do you think the commies in power are really going to back down from their original intent?  They not only own GM, they own YOU!  Don’t think so?  Did you elect to buy GM for them?  ▬ Donna Calvin






OnStar kills plan to track ex-subscribers

by Justin Hyde, author

In the face of a full-on revolt from users and pressure from Congress, Drudge Report and other media outlets, General Motors’ OnStar service just announced it was reversing plans to keep tracking vehicles of its 6 million subscribers if they cancel the service. Now once it’s off, it’s off.

The changes unveiled two weeks ago would have kept a data connection with any OnStar-equipped GM vehicle active unless an ex-subscriber specifically asked for it to be shut off. OnStar said it wanted to keep the connection alive to offer new services and alert vehicle owners in case of emergency or recalls — but also said it reserved the right to share or sell anonymous data about the vehicles it tracked to outsiders, including government agencies and marketers.


Since then, OnStar’s seen a burgeoning customer revolt, been forced to explain its changes repeatedly and faced criticism from at least three U.S. senators accusing the service of invading privacy. Even the U.S. Federal Trade Commission was asked to probe whether OnStar was violating federal privacy rules.

OnStar President Linda Marshall now says customers who cancel will have their data connection shut off; if OnStar wants to turn it back on, it will have to get the owner’s permission. And OnStar will “honor customers’ preferences about how data from that connection is treated” — which leaves room for the company to still share data, but only after getting permission from users.


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posted September 29, 2011 at 6:43 pm

Dave, you deal in half-truths

Dave wrote,

Fascism ( /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a radical authoritarian nationalist political ideology.  Fascists seek to purge forces, ideas, people, and systems deemed to be the cause of decadence and degeneration.  In economics, fascists oppose liberalism (as a bourgeois movement) and Marxism (as a proletarian movement) for being class-based movements. Fascists present their ideology as that of an economically trans-class movement that promotes resolving economic class conflict to secure national solidarity.  So, based on the definition of fascism I think the current administration is pretty far outside. 

My answer:
Economic Fascism

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When most people hear the word “fascism” they naturally think of its ugly racism and anti-Semitism as practiced by the totalitarian regimes of Mussolini and Hitler. But there was also an economic policy component of fascism, known in Europe during the 1920s and ’30s as “corporatism,” that was an essential ingredient of economic totalitarianism as practiced by Mussolini and Hitler. So- called corporatism was adopted in Italy and Germany during the 1930s and was held up as a “model” by quite a few intellectuals and policy makers in the United States and Europe. A version of economic fascism was in fact adopted in the United States in the 1930s and survives to this day. In the United States these policies were not called “fascism” but “planned capitalism.” The word fascism may no longer be politically acceptable, but its synonym “industrial policy” is as popular as ever.
Note: this was put in by FDR and his socialists
Check out
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German pattern “maintains private ownership of the means of production and keeps the appearance of ordinary prices, wages, and markets.” But in fact the government directs production decisions, curbs entrepreneurship and the labor market, and determines wages and interest rates by central authority. “Market exchange,” says Mises, “is only a sham.”
This is where we are headed today.
More to come on Daves comments about the UAW and the GM bailout.

Dave check your spellchecker, Christ is not spelled Chirst.

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posted September 28, 2011 at 11:09 pm

Remote tracking of parking is less about big government and more about saving money by eliminating parking enforcement officers. Just like speeding cameras are less about tracking cars and more about eliminating police officers while generating revenue. The side effect of these cost saving measures is more opportunity for the government to track us, although that isn’t the original intent.

Next in line is a federal ID card as a solution to the illegal alien problem. One more shackle around our neck hidden behind “security” and fully driven by our government’s use of “fear”. This didn’t start with Obama, but his administration isn’t laying off it either.

Maybe in the future Brave New World people will study the death of the United States and come to the conclusion that our Constitution was done in by the microchip, not macro government.

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posted September 28, 2011 at 10:29 pm

Fascism ( /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a radical authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek to purge forces, ideas, people, and systems deemed to be the cause of decadence and degeneration. In economics, fascists oppose liberalism (as a bourgeois movement) and Marxism (as a proletarian movement) for being class-based movements. Fascists present their ideology as that of an economically trans-class movement that promotes resolving economic class conflict to secure national solidarity. So, based on the definition of fascism I think the current administration is pretty far outside.

As for the UAW, they gave back $3 billion in immediate health care benefits and $15 billion in retiree costs as a condition of the government bailout. So the only real “gain” to the union was that GM stayed in business and they kept their jobs, abet with slightly lower benefits. And were almost unanimous in approving the changes so my guess is that they were happy with the deal.

UAW union “bosses” represent the workers in many auto companies, including Ford which did not need a bailout. So I am sure that nothing changed in their compensation just because GM was in trouble. In the meantime, the management at GM was able to void existing contracts with their suppliers, and dealers, and shed non-profitable parts of the business and restructure to the detriment of many. Stockholders lost out, but the majority of GM stock was owned not by the little people, but by large investment houses and managed funds. The business emerged strong and is making a profit (stock is around $20/share). The government actually made money in the process, and, one more thing, the GM bailout was ordered by George W. Bush. Obama had nothing to do with it.

Your anti-union bias is interesting, since it is the union movement which had brought forth many of the health, welfare and retirement benefits you and I enjoy. Is your opinion that we should return to the days of robber barons, sweat shops, and child labor so that businesses can make even more obscene profits and pay their CEOs even more millions of dollars? Ayn Rand to the contrary, John Galt did not live in the real world, and businesses do not act with “enlightened self interest”. The purpose of business is to make money, there is no moral code or imperative that says they have to consider the welfare of the worker, or the state. In fact, the opposite rule applies to the Board of Directors. Make money at every opportunity, raise that stock price each quarter, or lose your job and be sued for malfeasance by the stockholders.

Chirst mandated us to look after the poor, the widows, our neighbors. Not squash them beneath our feet in our rush to first claim the spoils. If you want to rail against something, consider Walmart. They have a policy that employees injured on the job be refused benefits including legally entitled medical treatment, until they sue. My daughter was a victim to this policy, and Walmart has paid millions in fines, but they continue this because, ultimately it saves them money and their job pool is unlimited since they also hire illegal aliens. And they are even more anti-union than you, immediately firing anyone who dares attempt to organize. Again, they are more than willing to pay the fines as a cost of doing their type of business.

The country may be dying, but it is not the union that is killing it. It is corporate interests that have taken over the government of the people, and are strangling the future of the economy by their unrelenting pursuit of profit. We have the best government money can buy, and that is the problem, because the money is all from big business and not from the citizens.

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posted September 28, 2011 at 5:31 pm

Truthteller1611, you indeed speak the truth and your speculation may prove to be more accurate than we’d all like to believe. Have you read the related Watchwoman item about how in-ground sensors will be tracking where you park — from outside your vehicle! This is a complete loss of freedoms and self-determination. This is a huge invasion of privacy and over-bearing, intrusive government with unlimited audacity and repercussions. Here comes big brother and he’s looking for anyone who is non-compliant! Scared? Warned? Still asleep, America? You better wake up! Because big brother is not asleep and he’s after YOUR freedoms.
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Donna Calvin

posted September 28, 2011 at 5:22 pm

Dave, thank you for leaving this comment. You contacted me off line and I urged you to come here and post your comment where others could see it, not just me. It deserves to be seen by more than just me. Here’s more to add….Even though GM has paid back those tax-payer supported loans, I’m sure that Obama and Crew didn’t make them without getting some promises from GM (who is ever-since known as Government Motors). Fascism is the form of government too often exercised in the U.S.A. today. Simply put, fascism is when government allows the business to be owned by private people and groups, but the government makes all the rules by which they can operate. I’m sure that GM is being controlled more by the “Obama Admin, Inc.” than by stockholders and GM execs. BTW, when GM went belly up, the stockholders lost all their money, you know the little people like you and me. BUT THE UNION DIDN’T lose a thing. No way! The unions were the big benefactors in GM going belly up! Do you think that was just a coincidence? The unions indeed got out of paying out the big pensions to the retirees. The biggest bailout was to the union, aye? But not to the union members, just the union bosses who continued to get paid those huge salaries and had so many of the debts of their union forgiven them ensuring the unions last forever and ever, amen. Obama and union bosses. Gumbas forever!

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posted September 28, 2011 at 1:26 pm

How soon before the government requires all new vehicles to be equipped with tracking chips. These chips could keep track of mileage traveled (for road tax purposes), your location at all times, if you are speeding etc.
In the future you could have travel restrictions, such as rationing the amount of miles driven, or going where you were not allowed. The chip could they shut down your vehicle and summon the police.

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posted September 28, 2011 at 12:49 pm

No, GM has paid back all its loans and is operating on its own feet. OnStar is separate from GM, a bunch of high end foreign cars also use it. Right now the data can be subpoenaed whether you have it turned on or not. It is already being used in court by wives to prove their husband’s infidelity. The data in your air bag computer that records the last few minutes before your airbag deploys can also be subpoenaed and used against you in court, for example if it shows you were speeding before the accident your insurance company may not pay. No way to turn it off, no way to erase it after the fact… But most drivers don’t know this.


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